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It looks very unlikely Democrats will take the Senate

ProfJohn

ProfJohn

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Rasmussen reports that for the Democrats to take control of the Senate that following would have to happen:
Democrats have to win all five races leaning their way plus all three Toss-Ups to regain control of the Senate. While that?s a tall order, recent history shows that it is quite possible for one party or the other to sweep all the close races. The Democrats did so in Election 2000 and the Republicans returned the favor in 2002.
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While it COULD happen, I doubt it will happen.

Remember this thread Republicans target 3 senate seats MO and TN are toss-ups and OH is a lean Democrat. But all the Republicans need to do is win 1 of those seats.

It looks like MO and TN are the races to watch with NJ, PA and OH in the background.
I am thinking a 4 or 5 seat Democratic pick up.

Rasmussen link
Realclearpolitics lists it as a 6 seat pick up for Democrats right now.

Question for everyone, I was thinking of creating an "election prediction" thread where we can all post who we think will win certain races so we can go back post election and see who was right and who was a crazy lunatic. Whatcha think?
 
With the recent events not yet reflected in the polls I am going to say the Republicans will get a slight pickup of voters than had been predicted before these events. When late breaking events occur before elections the party in power has the advantage of driving the debate and access to free media that translates to a slight bump.
The House goes Democrat in what may be the greatest political shift in 100 years. The Senate stays Republican.
I think Ford will lose. I guess I just believe there is still a racist vote that is under-reported in polls.
 
You know what's really scary? In his 2005 book "The Truth with Jokes", Al Franken predicted, in a rather humerous manner, that the Dems would take Congress and the Republicans and Democrats would be tied in the Senate. At the time he wrote it, Republican fever was still going strong, and it seemed like one more case of wishful thinking. Now it seems entirely possible that this could be EXACTLY what will happen. Wow, political pundits getting something right, amazing 😉

On a more serious note, MO and TN are clearly the big races worth watching. NJ is interesting in the sense that it's the only Democrat seat that's even remotely threatened, if the Republicans can grab it it will be a huge victory for them in the morale sense. Ohio is close, but Brown has been leading the entire race, still worth watching, but almost certainly a Dem win. As for PA, I'm not sure why that's interesting, Santorum is SCREWED. He's trailed by a good margin the entire race, is in the leadership of the Republican party (a liability, at the moment) and is way more conservative than PA voters. He is done.
 
I think there is no way Santorum will win lol. Connecticut will be interesting just to see--although the dem will prolly win. Other than that, who knows. Dems could pick up a few seats or we could all be totally shocked by the results and have the repubs pick up even more lol

The good thing about a democrat majority would be that we'd have them pitted against the whitehouse so there would be only a limited ability for either one to screw things up worse than they already are.

The bad thing about a democrat majority would be that any of the GOOD stuff they'd wanna do would never get done, and any of the (i know, i know, unlikely, but bear with me here!) GOOD stuff Bush might try to do would never get done.

We do need an investigation of this administration, and there are probably plenty of criminal charges to go around for a few of the people up ther, but what we don't need is another waste of millions of dollars for something that no one cares about, ala the investigation into Clinton.
 
Originally posted by: techs
With the recent events not yet reflected in the polls I am going to say the Republicans will get a slight pickup of voters than had been predicted before these events. When late breaking events occur before elections the party in power has the advantage of driving the debate and access to free media that translates to a slight bump.
The House goes Democrat in what may be the greatest political shift in 100 years. The Senate stays Republican.
I think Ford will lose. I guess I just believe there is still a racist vote that is under-reported in polls.
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Please tell me that I won't have to listen to a bunch of statements like that on election night if the Democrats win.

News for you... Democrats held the house for 40 years before losing it in 1994. Republicans have only held the house for 12 years since then.
How can you even pretend to say the greatest shift in 100 years? 1994 saw a 54 seat shift in power. At most we are seeing a 20 or so seat shift, and that is most likely the best Democrats will do.

Please explain your 100 year comment?

Ps. If Ford loses it will be because of statements like claiming he is/was a lawyer when in fact he never passed the bar exam.
 
Originally posted by: extra
Connecticut will be interesting just to see--although the dem will prolly win. .
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God I hope the Democrats can win in Connecticut since it is a Democrat vs. a Democrat. If the Republican did win even I would be calling for an investigation to election stealing.
 
Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Originally posted by: techs
With the recent events not yet reflected in the polls I am going to say the Republicans will get a slight pickup of voters than had been predicted before these events. When late breaking events occur before elections the party in power has the advantage of driving the debate and access to free media that translates to a slight bump.
The House goes Democrat in what may be the greatest political shift in 100 years. The Senate stays Republican.
I think Ford will lose. I guess I just believe there is still a racist vote that is under-reported in polls.
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Please tell me that I won't have to listen to a bunch of statements like that on election night if the Democrats win.

News for you... Democrats held the house for 40 years before losing it in 1994. Republicans have only held the house for 12 years since then.
How can you even pretend to say the greatest shift in 100 years? 1994 saw a 54 seat shift in power. At most we are seeing a 20 or so seat shift, and that is most likely the best Democrats will do.

Please explain your 100 year comment?

Ps. If Ford loses it will be because of statements like claiming he is/was a lawyer when in fact he never passed the bar exam.
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Yeah, it's a little over the top...but fair is fair. If the Dems come out on top, I think it's only fair that Republicans are subjected to months of endless over-celebrating and nonsensical comments about "historical wins"...it's certainly more than fair considering the Republican attitudes and statements after 2004. Bush beat Kerry by the skin of his teeth, and Republicans were carrying on like the Democrats were defeated for the rest of eternity. I don't know if you were posting here then, but damn was it annoying. I'm generally a follower of the philosophy that when you get to the end-zone, act like you've been there before...but if the Democrats win in November and engage in some activity that annoys the Republicans, I'd say it's just well deserved payback.
 
Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Ps. If Ford loses it will be because of statements like claiming he is/was a lawyer when in fact he never passed the bar exam.
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QFT. Leave it to a liberal to try and play the old race card.
 
Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Originally posted by: extra
Connecticut will be interesting just to see--although the dem will prolly win. .
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God I hope the Democrats can win in Connecticut since it is a Democrat vs. a Democrat. If the Republican did win even I would be calling for an investigation to election stealing.
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Lieberman is gonna make the Dems look real stupid. (As if they needed any help.)
 
Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Originally posted by: extra
Connecticut will be interesting just to see--although the dem will prolly win. .
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God I hope the Democrats can win in Connecticut since it is a Democrat vs. a Democrat. If the Republican did win even I would be calling for an investigation to election stealing.
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Uh yeah, seriously. Lieberman may be running as an Independent, but even if he wins it's still a win for the Dems. Rhetoric aside, besides his views on Iraq, Lieberman is far more liberal than most Republicans...he is NOT a DINO and there is no way in hell he'd jump ship to the Republicans as has happened in the past.
 
Originally posted by: Pabster
Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Originally posted by: extra
Connecticut will be interesting just to see--although the dem will prolly win. .
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God I hope the Democrats can win in Connecticut since it is a Democrat vs. a Democrat. If the Republican did win even I would be calling for an investigation to election stealing.
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Lieberman is gonna make the Dems look real stupid. (As if they needed any help.)
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Uh, they're beating the Republicans like rented mules here. A Lieberman victory really isn't that much of a setback, he may not be a pure Democrat, but he's closer than any Republican.
 
I don't think very many democrats consider Lieberman to be a democrat anymore, so I don't think it will make them look bad at all. I think it made them look pretty good that they'd be willing to oust him after how long he'd been with them. Showed a willingness for change and actually doing something, which they need to show a lot more of.
 
Originally posted by: extra
I don't think very many democrats consider Lieberman to be a democrat anymore, so I don't think it will make them look bad at all. I think it made them look pretty good that they'd be willing to oust him after how long he'd been with them. Showed a willingness for change and actually doing something, which they need to show a lot more of.
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No, it showed everyone how extreme the Democratic party has become. Period.

Ousting the moderates like Lieberman and Miller while retaining the extremist left-wing artists like Kerry and Kennedy is a recipe for complete and total disaster.
 
Originally posted by: Pabster
Originally posted by: extra
I don't think very many democrats consider Lieberman to be a democrat anymore, so I don't think it will make them look bad at all. I think it made them look pretty good that they'd be willing to oust him after how long he'd been with them. Showed a willingness for change and actually doing something, which they need to show a lot more of.
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No, it showed everyone how extreme the Democratic party has become. Period.

Ousting the moderates like Lieberman and Miller while retaining the extremist left-wing artists like Kerry and Kennedy is a recipe for complete and total disaster.
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Yes, I can see that by the way the Republicans are so skillfully beating the Dems this election.
 
Miller was not ousted. He retired.
Two incumbent House Representatives lost their primary this cycle.
Cynthia McKinney (GA-04) lost to Hank Johnson, a more moderate Democrat.
Joe Schwarz (MI-07) lost to the Club for Growth supported Tom Walberg
The voters in the primary decide if the candidate is a good fit for the district or state. People in the Democratic primary in CT sent Lieberman a message. I hope he listened.

Edit: PA is not in the background. Santorum is done. He has not polled over 41% in a very long time.
 
Originally posted by: Stunt
Good...
Less focus on Iraq and impeachment, more focus on 2008.
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exactly what i was thinking. when we care more about the politics of politics then the real issues you know there is a problem
 
Originally posted by: Uhtrinity
Day to day updates using many pollsters nationwide:

Electoral-vote.com

Senate has been bouncing +/-1 for the last weeks Dems lead big time on congressional races.
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Thanks for the link. This was a nice site during the past few elections, totally forgot about it. :thumbsup: Looks like some checks are going to be restored. A win for the country if that happens.
 
Connecticut doesn't matter. It's still a tally for the Democrats. Liberman still has to caucus with one party or the other to actually get anything done, and he's said he'd caucus with the Democrats. Go dream your little dream of Liberman 'keeping' the Senate for the GOP, because he won't. Why anyone, much less Liberman, would join the GOP at this time is beyond me.
 
Originally posted by: Rainsford
Originally posted by: Pabster
Originally posted by: extra
I don't think very many democrats consider Lieberman to be a democrat anymore, so I don't think it will make them look bad at all. I think it made them look pretty good that they'd be willing to oust him after how long he'd been with them. Showed a willingness for change and actually doing something, which they need to show a lot more of.
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No, it showed everyone how extreme the Democratic party has become. Period.

Ousting the moderates like Lieberman and Miller while retaining the extremist left-wing artists like Kerry and Kennedy is a recipe for complete and total disaster.
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Yes, I can see that by the way the Republicans are so skillfully beating the Dems this election.
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We did win the last 4 elections or so...and I doubt Democrats will get power in either the house or senate anyway...
 
Originally posted by: ntdz
We did win the last 4 elections or so...and I doubt Democrats will get power in either the house or senate anyway...
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Get your pesky little facts out of this thread :laugh:
 
I wonder what you guys' excuses would be when the Democrats kept winning control in the House for 40 years?

The fact of the matter is it took 40 years for the Democratic majority to crumble. It's taken 12 years for the Republicans. Now what does that say about strategy? What does that say about job performance? Fvcking embarrassed, is what you guys should be.
 
I don't quite think our society has reached the point where the harm our nation is incurring at the hands of present leadership outweighs it's MCarthy-esque fear of the mythical liberal devil. What's encouraging is by the time we get to that point the neoconservative-christian coalition will become leprotic in American politics for at least a generation. Or we will never learn and the integritty of our nation will be seriously compromised, take your pick.
 
Originally posted by: Pabster
Originally posted by: ntdz
We did win the last 4 elections or so...and I doubt Democrats will get power in either the house or senate anyway...
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Get your pesky little facts out of this thread :laugh:
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that is not a fact at least in the House/Senate

last 4 elections were
1998, 2000, 2002, 2004

1998 - Democrats gained 5 seats in the House
0 change in the Senate

2000 - Democrats gained 1 seat in the House
+4 in the Senate.


 
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