It just occurred to me that bacon is more harmful than marijuana

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meltdown75

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i wouldn't be surprised if there were bacon-flavoured papers out there.....

they seem to have every other flavour :D
 

kage69

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eating weed has no effects at all. nothing would happen to you. it would be the same as eating the dried buds and flowers of any common weed. it needs to be warmed up to a certain temperature to release the psychoactive ingredient. this is why eating a big skunk nugget will have no effect on you whatsoever. making baked goods with powdered leaf/bud or making canna-butter and then baking with it, now that is another story.


A skunk left some big skunk nuggets on my lawn one time, can't imagine why someone would eat them.

Seriously though, pretty sure you are wrong here. While working at an ISP in college, one of the web designers and his fiance had to go on a canoe/camping trip with her parents. This guy and his lady were big time smokers, I swung by their place one time to grab some software I let him use, and counted at least 4 or 5 bongs scattered about their living room. Anyway, not wanting to be without their precious herb for a full day out enjoying the sights, but not able to burn down in front of two very conservative and religious parents, they bought gelatin capsules from a health food store and packed them with ground up weed. He told me that while they had to eat around a handful, it definitely did the trick. Almost too well, they were stoned for hours longer than they expected to be. Somehow Ma and Pa didn't notice, go figure.

Also, heat and light both degrade THC. My now dead friend who had non hodgkins lymphoma spent a great deal of time researching this and practicing what he learned. THC is psychoactive at room temperature, it just needs to be separated from H2O to become so.


just my $0.02...
 

meltdown75

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nah, that's at least a nickel. ;)

welp, it's up for debate i guess.

real "stoners" check in plz :)
 
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Please show me where everyone says it's harmless. It's really dependent on the person and the effects it has on them. Everyone is different.

Although I will counter your points with something to think about.

1. You don't have to smoke it.

2. You can become psychologically addicted to anything if you let yourself or have an addictive personality. That's no ones fault but your own.

3. The mind altering effects of alcohol vs marijuana are VERY different. It also depends a lot on the person. I'd argue that people not paying attention could cause just as much harm.

4. I fucking LOVE bacon! I've got me some apple wood smoked bacon in the fridge right now. :D

1. You DO have to smoke weed. You don't have to smoke THC.

2. Yes, you can. You're absolutely right. However, on the scale of psychological addiction, marijuana is actually relatively high. This isn't like me wanting to eat bacon. Sure, I like bacon. Sure, somebody like a binge eater could get addicted to it. However, the likelihood is much less due to fewer psychotropic affects. Cannibanoids stimulate the pleasure center in a much different way than any other non-drug. When the pleasure center is directly correlated with the intake of a substance, that's where classical conditioning comes in.

3. I'm very aware of this. However, the sociological effects are similar amongst addicts. It depends less on each person, but you're right to some extent. The problem is that once a person's substance abuse reaches a point where it effects their lives in a significant way, it's very similar for all drugs. The degree just varies.

4. Bacon is delicious. This point, I believe, everyone can agree on. :)
 

InflatableBuddha

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This is true as well. Bacon is NOT that bad for you, especially if you exercise daily and have the rest of your diet in check. The omega-3 part would be more true if farmers didn't feed them the crap they feed them now. I typically eat bacon every day. I also exercise every day (either lift or run/bike). My cholesterol is quite good due to high intake of insoluble fiber, fruits/veggies, and good sources of fats like nuts and avocados (fish oil supplementation doesn't hurt either). Also, not eating any sugar keeps my LDL is check like no other.

I agree, bacon has good nutritional value, and as long as you drain off the grease, not too much fat.

My understanding is that you should eat it in moderation (I only have it occasionally) because it is high in nitrates. Same goes for pork and ham obviously. What's your take on this?
 

zinfamous

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by the way, bacon is pretty good for you, so long as you stay active. It's one of the most efficient protein injections you can give yourself.

and fat is actually a good thing, so long as you don't sit your fatass on the couch all day.
 

lxskllr

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I agree, bacon has good nutritional value, and as long as you drain off the grease, not too much fat.

My understanding is that you should eat it in moderation (I only have it occasionally) because it is high in nitrates. Same goes for pork and ham obviously. What's your take on this?

You can get naturally cured bacon. It's caked in salt, and you have to rinse it off before cooking. I'm sure a bunch of people will jump in and tell you nitrates/ites are good for you, but I don't trust them, and I think it's a good idea to limit intake.
 
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Busybodies... :rolleyes:

Gladly you have no say in anyone's business outside your workplace. You really should stay out of other peoples private lives. If I choose to go out and drink a bunch on the weekends that's MY business. Not yours. If my activities hinder my performance at my job, then the appropriate actions can be taken. Up until that point, get a life and stay out of mine.

If you want me to stay out your business, then don't work for mine. Whether you like it or not, personal life greatly affects productivity and quality of work. Smoking pot induces lethargy, forgetfulness, and potential lack of reliability (depending on if the person is addicted or not). There is likely to be visible carryover. This also adds to the degrees of freedom for things to go wrong. To quote Murphy's Law, if something can go wrong, it WILL go wrong. I'm aware that there are many functioning employees who do great work that toke. However, there is likely a higher percentage of issues with these employees. Why do you think most big corporations test? Because they care enough to spend the money on the test and weed those applicants out.
 

meltdown75

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If you want me to stay out your business, then don't work for mine. Whether you like it or not, personal life greatly affects productivity and quality of work. Smoking pot induces lethargy, forgetfulness, and potential lack of reliability (depending on if the person is addicted or not). There is likely to be visible carryover. This also adds to the degrees of freedom for things to go wrong. To quote Murphy's Law, if something can go wrong, it WILL go wrong. I'm aware that there are many functioning employees who do great work that toke. However, there is likely a higher percentage of issues with these employees. Why do you think most big corporations test? Because they care enough to spend the money on the test and weed those applicants out.
i smoke up on occasion, and i'm freaking awesome at my job and my manager loves me.
 

40Hands

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If you want me to stay out your business, then don't work for mine. Whether you like it or not, personal life greatly affects productivity and quality of work. Smoking pot induces lethargy, forgetfulness, and potential lack of reliability (depending on if the person is addicted or not). There is likely to be visible carryover. This also adds to the degrees of freedom for things to go wrong. To quote Murphy's Law, if something can go wrong, it WILL go wrong. I'm aware that there are many functioning employees who do great work that toke. However, there is likely a higher percentage of issues with these employees. Why do you think most big corporations test? Because they care enough to spend the money on the test and weed those applicants out.

No. I'll work for whoever I please, unless the test is one of the hardcore ones that's almost impossible to cheat on.

I don't smoke and go to work because I know what my strengths and weaknesses are being high and not. I've held my current job for 6 years without issue. I will bold this because it's important: As long as it effects no one other then myself, I should be allowed to absorb THC into my bloodstream. Like I've said before, everyone is different. Some people take ADHD meds. Some take anti-depressants. Plus tons of other crazy ass (legal) drugs. They also go to work while under the effects! With the potential side effects of those meds, why would a company want someone like that working for them?! Oh that's right, it's accepted by the federal government therefore it's A-OK! :rolleyes:

You're talking out of your ass about a lot of things in your post. I bolded a few choice words above to show you that your statements are full of conjecture. If there are productivity or other problems, wouldn't there be some sort of consequences regardless of your lifestyle?

Drug testing is a load of horseshit and an infringement on our rights. It detects use of marijuana in the past month or so which is insane. Try it once and then lose your job 3 weeks later? Fuck that shit. The false positives, cheating, and no actual proven results are all good indicators that it's just a good ol fashioned cash grab.
The unfortunate people who have no choice but to work for a company that tests has a few choices. The dumb ones just fail and are let go. The smart ones just cheat the test. (which is pretty simple for most tests)
 
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