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Kyanzes

Kyanzes

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I've actually placed two different orders on the E6600 but after three weeks of waiting I couldn't stand it anymore and bought an E6300. I didn't regret it. It was cheap and overclocks very well (2800MHz at stock vcore). Only problem is the mobo that can't go beyond 410 MHz and remain stable at the same time. Well, maybe I get a different mobo later, for now it's okay. It's still 50% oc. Looking back now, it would have been better to buy a 6400 because of the multiplier. Still, I'm very pleased.
 
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markymoo

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well if you all waited and not rushed out and bought the 6600

Always judge be patient and resist temptation and you be better served.

Dont be a guinea pig.

get the 6400 and save a bundle
 
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Nightmare225

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I dunno, my e6600 has reached 3.1 GHz and that was only my first overclock, this is the first time I've ever done it and just set the v-core up by 0.05 and FSB to 345 or so. It is Prime95 stable so I can push it quite a bit more. Perhaps some of the older e6600s are better OCers?
 
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Vette73

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Originally posted by: Zap
At the most recent LAN that I attended (hosted by chicagogamers.com) someone had an E6300 on an Asus 975X board and was only able to get around 2.6GHz "easily" with no vcore. Could get a bit above that but vcore needed to be boosted more and more.

I'm gonna still wait for an E4300 with a cheap 965 board (isn't there an overclockable Gigabyte for around $120?).
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Yea its the Gigabyte GA-965P-S3
I got mine for $129 from www.zipzoomfly.com shipped (fed-ex)

Best bang for the buck for a 965 and overclocking as the MSI 965 does not overclock well from what I hear and the gigabyte is as good or better IMO then what Asus has.
 
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zizo

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Originally posted by: n7
Yeah my dreams of 975 + E6600 quickly changed when i realized what was happening.

Now i should be getting my E6400 + P5B Deluxe tomorrow, all going well anyway :)

Just the wait for the RAM will be a while...
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Good choices! Just add G.Skill 6400hz to that. ;)

 
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Pabster

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Originally posted by: markymoo
the better 6600 overclockers have been the engineering samples step b1
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That's true, but I don't see the logic behind the argument that the 6600 is a "bad buy".

Even if you "only" get to 3-3.2GHz per core, you've got a chip that's faster than the X6800 and you've saved $700. Can't go wrong with that.
 
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n7

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Originally posted by: zizo
Originally posted by: n7
Yeah my dreams of 975 + E6600 quickly changed when i realized what was happening.

Now i should be getting my E6400 + P5B Deluxe tomorrow, all going well anyway :)

Just the wait for the RAM will be a while...
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Good choices! Just add G.Skill 6400hz to that. ;)
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Already had Team Group DDR2-1000 5-5-5 ordered.
Gonna be a couple weeks still to arrive, since shipping US to Canada isn't so fun.
 
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zizo

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Originally posted by: n7
Originally posted by: zizo
Originally posted by: n7
Yeah my dreams of 975 + E6600 quickly changed when i realized what was happening.

Now i should be getting my E6400 + P5B Deluxe tomorrow, all going well anyway :)

Just the wait for the RAM will be a while...
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Good choices! Just add G.Skill 6400hz to that. ;)
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Already had Team Group DDR2-1000 5-5-5 ordered.
Gonna be a couple weeks still to arrive, since shipping US to Canada isn't so fun.
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My G.skill does 1200 with 4-4-4-12 2.35v. Is that enough? :)


 
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Kango2020

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Since the E6600's were so scarce early on, I bought an E6400. I figured if it worked well, I'd just cancel the order for the E6600. Well. The E6400 worked fine. At small voltage increases to keep temps reasonable on air, I was able to get 24/7 performance at 373 MHz FSB. That's 2984 MHz.

Well, I decided to keep the E6600 order and sell one of the two later on. When the E6600 arrived, I was able to run 24/7 with reasonable temps (just like the E6400) to a FSB of 368 MHz. That's 3312 MHz.

I will be selling the E6400 because I get 328 MHz better performance out of my E6600. Yes, the E6400 FSB was 5 MHz higher, so what. It was not the better buy, in my opinion.

Oh, a final thought (just an opinion because I actually considered this while buying my E6600), I can say I have a Conroe processor. If I had kept the E6400 I could not make that statement. Instead, I would have had an Allendale processor. Call it a status symbol.
 
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Typhax64

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i recently built a system with a friend! e6600, asus p5w dh deluxe, and 2 gigs of OCZ Platinum. At the very start i did a quick overclock to 3.6ghz, i cant remember the specifics but the vcore was 1.55 or above. It booted ok and ran super pi 1M in 14seconds. I then put every thing back to standard, as he was just using the in box HSF. However when he got his Schythe Ninja i tried to overclock again and it maxes out at 3.30ghz. 400fsb wont even boot. I have the latest bios for the board, and cant really think of anythiung else. I had the vcore at 1.575 and the other voltage settings at the highest (apart from ram 2.2v)

Any help would be much appreciated, and could any1 one with a high OC please post all relevent bios settings, including the CPU ones like the thermal setting etc....

Thanks,

Typhax
 
n7

n7

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Originally posted by: zizo

My G.skill does 1200 with 4-4-4-12 2.35v. Is that enough? :)
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Thanx, but unless you're willing to buy some for me, & ship to me in Canada, it's pretty much impossible for me to get G.Skill.
 
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markymoo

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tried to tell my friend not to get 6600 when they come out, would he listen would he ****

he spent £250 on watercooling and got a p5w dh

i beat him on hsf and p5b 6400 :)



 
lopri

lopri

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Originally posted by: Kwint Sommer
Just a thought, to get to say 3.2ghz you would have to run an E6300 at a lot higher FSB than an E6600 so wouldn't that be putting a lot more stress on your system?
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Yes, that is true. Also that is the reason why it's more beneficial to go mate E6300/E6400 with P965 chipset instead of 975X, which seems to hit its max frequency around 420~430FSB. P965 looks to go much higher than that without too much voltages. (I can't testify on this because I have no first-hand experience with a P965 board)

But either way, to realize 3.5GHz+ overclock, the stress on the board seems unavoidable unless you have an X6800. Also I noticed another trait of 975X - As FSB goes up, the required VDIMM (at same frequency) goes up, too. For example on my platform:

@266FSB: DDR2-800 CL3 requires 2.20V
@400FSB: DDR2-800 CL3 requires 2.35V

This is a very distinct difference coming from NF4 platform, where an optimal memory configuration, once found, tends to be consistent and independent from HTT (using dividers, of course) And my observation turned out to be true. I will quote AT's own reviewer on this matter.

Originally posted by: Gary Key
Overclocking is entirely different on Intel due to the memory controller hub (MCH). The inter-relationship between the mch, memory, and cpu are tightly woven together in the bios. Depending upon the memory strap and fsb, either or all three will need additional voltage depending upon the setting. As you near the upper end of the memory strap (let's say 1066) the system is basically in overclock mode so the memory will need addtional voltage even though your FSB appeared to be the only setting that changed.
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Special thanks to Gary for shedding light on this issue.
 
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Kalessian

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My 6400 is right now at 3.0ghz stable on stock volts (after vdroop) with stock HSF. Gigabyte DS3 w/ zalman passive :) Done a whole re'emerge of my gentoo partition and no heat/stability issues. I think it can do 3.2ghz, too, without a voltage bump but I just have no need to go higher right now.

Real glad I didn't get a 6600. When I get my BTyphoon or Tuniq Tower I bet I'll be able to hit ~3.6ghz. At least 3.4ghz. Just a feeling.

 
lopri

lopri

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Originally posted by: Kalessian
My 6400 is right now at 3.0ghz stable on stock volts (after vdroop) with stock HSF. Gigabyte DS3 w/ zalman passive :) Done a whole re'emerge of my gentoo partition and no heat/stability issues. I think it can do 3.2ghz, too, without a voltage bump but I just have no need to go higher right now.
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Which Zalman?
 
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