It is my understanding that car people != computer people?

fleabag

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I am under the impression that those who work on cars are very different from those who work with electronics/computers. That "mechanics" tend to hate electronics and feel they make the car unnecessarily complicated. They like to be outdoors and working on things that are tangible, get dirty, lift stuff, what ever.

Electronics/computer people tend to keep clean, think electronics are a benefit and not an inhibitor, that the more electronics, the more precise things can be, which is good. They don't necessarily like to be outdoors and that's why they're on the computer.

These are stereotypes of course but since most stereotypes are valid, it's just that not everybody but most fall into them which is why I'm using it.

So, would you guys say that my observation is correct?

It would seem like those who like cars AND electronics are few and far between, would you agree with this?
 

skace

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I'm trying to figure out why you are attempting to make these stereotypes, what are you hoping to prove?
 

dug777

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I'd fundamentally disagree with the OP.

They're simply different ends of the same spectrum, fiddling with crap, breaking stuff that works fine already, and generally enjoying yourself ;)
 

paulxcook

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Originally posted by: dug777
I'd fundamentally disagree with the OP.

They're simply different ends of the same spectrum, fiddling with crap, breaking stuff that works fine already, and generally enjoying yourself ;)

Agreed. Though it's much harder to get into fiddling with cars if you don't have someone to teach you things first. Teaching yourself computer stuff is easy.
 

randomlinh

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Originally posted by: paulxcook
Originally posted by: dug777
I'd fundamentally disagree with the OP.

They're simply different ends of the same spectrum, fiddling with crap, breaking stuff that works fine already, and generally enjoying yourself ;)

Agreed. Though it's much harder to get into fiddling with cars if you don't have someone to teach you things first. Teaching yourself computer stuff is easy.

and it's far easier to fiddle w/ an old computer rather than a project car to learn on, heh
 

paulxcook

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Originally posted by: randomlinh
Originally posted by: paulxcook
Originally posted by: dug777
I'd fundamentally disagree with the OP.

They're simply different ends of the same spectrum, fiddling with crap, breaking stuff that works fine already, and generally enjoying yourself ;)

Agreed. Though it's much harder to get into fiddling with cars if you don't have someone to teach you things first. Teaching yourself computer stuff is easy.

and it's far easier to fiddle w/ an old computer rather than a project car to learn on, heh

That too. I screwed up a few things here and there on my first pc however long ago, and I was able to just use my parents' computer. The story is a bit different when working on a car.
 

nakedfrog

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I'm a computer guy, and I prefer simpler mechanical setup in cars versus everything being computer-controlled.
I'd probably feel differently if it were simple to tap into the computer and use it, or if they were cheaper to replace.
 

91TTZ

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Originally posted by: fleabag
I am under the impression that those who work on cars are very different from those who work with electronics/computers. That "mechanics" tend to hate electronics and feel they make the car unnecessarily complicated. They like to be outdoors and working on things that are tangible, get dirty, lift stuff, what ever.

I disagree with that. Most of the people on the Z enthusiast forums that I go on are computer people. They're tech geeks, they like modding things.
 

SlowSpyder

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I built my own computer and am a tech support person for a living. I also work on my Eclipse, hence my user name. But, I do enjoy working on the computer more then the car lately.
 

Patt

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I prefer to work on things that won't possibly kill me if I fuck it up :p
 

hanoverphist

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Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
They have no relation with one another.

w3rd. im a puter geek (or nerd, depends which family member you ask) and i can also rebuild an engine. i didnt like the new computer systems in cars for a long time, but am warming up to them overall. lots of capabilities, possibilities and way better control over the system overall. i used to hate them mostly due to not really knowing how they worked or operated in a vehicle.
 

hanoverphist

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Originally posted by: paulxcook
Originally posted by: randomlinh
Originally posted by: paulxcook
Originally posted by: dug777
I'd fundamentally disagree with the OP.

They're simply different ends of the same spectrum, fiddling with crap, breaking stuff that works fine already, and generally enjoying yourself ;)

Agreed. Though it's much harder to get into fiddling with cars if you don't have someone to teach you things first. Teaching yourself computer stuff is easy.

and it's far easier to fiddle w/ an old computer rather than a project car to learn on, heh

That too. I screwed up a few things here and there on my first pc however long ago, and I was able to just use my parents' computer. The story is a bit different when working on a car.

that too. i screwed up a few things here and there on my first car, and i was able to use my parents car to go get new parts.

not too different, and mebbe about as costly.
 

mwmorph

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I'm a car nerd, but yes, I do hate electronics on cars, they're absolutely the biggest PITA to work on. I'd be happy in cars had electronics that never, ever failed. A lot of cars are unnecessarily complicated, I mean do you really need a computer and all the associated wiring just to remember what the seat heater setting was before you turned the car off?

I do like computers and I'm decently knowledgeable but you wont see me staring at wiring diagrams and soldering like I do with a ratchet set and service manual.
 

Baked

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I know how to fill up my own gas at the pump, and I know how to check my own tire pressure. /flex
 

herm0016

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car and computer guy here too. I do my own work on both, done some stock car and drag racing.
 

BlackTigers

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Originally posted by: hanoverphist
Originally posted by: paulxcook
Originally posted by: randomlinh
Originally posted by: paulxcook
Originally posted by: dug777
I'd fundamentally disagree with the OP.

They're simply different ends of the same spectrum, fiddling with crap, breaking stuff that works fine already, and generally enjoying yourself ;)

Agreed. Though it's much harder to get into fiddling with cars if you don't have someone to teach you things first. Teaching yourself computer stuff is easy.

and it's far easier to fiddle w/ an old computer rather than a project car to learn on, heh

That too. I screwed up a few things here and there on my first pc however long ago, and I was able to just use my parents' computer. The story is a bit different when working on a car.

that too. i screwed up a few things here and there on my first car, and i was able to use my parents car to go get new parts.

not too different, and mebbe about as costly.

Except when you crack an engine block it's not quite the same as frying a CPU.

:p