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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/4581871.stm
A&E doctors are calling for a ban on long pointed kitchen knives to reduce deaths from stabbing.

A team from West Middlesex University Hospital said violent crime is on the increase - and kitchen knives are used in as many as half of all stabbings.

They argued many assaults are committed impulsively, prompted by alcohol and drugs, and a kitchen knife often makes an all too available weapon.

I knew some crap like this was going to come up sooner or later, the Brits have made handgun ownership a crime, self defense nearly impossible, and now they're going after kitchen knives. (my bad, they're going after pointy kitchen knives)

What's next on the list?

Ban rocks & sharp sticks

 
Originally posted by: Pliablemoose
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/4581871.stm
A&E doctors are calling for a ban on long pointed kitchen knives to reduce deaths from stabbing.

A team from West Middlesex University Hospital said violent crime is on the increase - and kitchen knives are used in as many as half of all stabbings.

They argued many assaults are committed impulsively, prompted by alcohol and drugs, and a kitchen knife often makes an all too available weapon.

I knew some crap like this was going to come up sooner or later, the Brits have made handgun ownership a crime, self defense nearly impossible, and now they're going after kitchen knives. (my bad, they're going after pointy kitchen knives)

What's next on the list?

Ban rocks & sharp sticks

How is Bush somehow responsible for this? I'm sure we'll have that post coming shortly.. I'm coming up with a new acronym.. 'IBBH' (In Before the Bush Hater).
 
Originally posted by: Crimson
Originally posted by: Pliablemoose
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/4581871.stm
A&E doctors are calling for a ban on long pointed kitchen knives to reduce deaths from stabbing.

A team from West Middlesex University Hospital said violent crime is on the increase - and kitchen knives are used in as many as half of all stabbings.

They argued many assaults are committed impulsively, prompted by alcohol and drugs, and a kitchen knife often makes an all too available weapon.

I knew some crap like this was going to come up sooner or later, the Brits have made handgun ownership a crime, self defense nearly impossible, and now they're going after kitchen knives. (my bad, they're going after pointy kitchen knives)

What's next on the list?

Ban rocks & sharp sticks

How is Bush somehow responsible for this? I'm sure we'll have that post coming shortly.. I'm coming up with a new acronym.. 'IBBH' (In Before the Bush Hater).

Where'd you get that idea? My god you're absolutely insane.
 
Originally posted by: Tab
Originally posted by: Crimson
Originally posted by: Pliablemoose
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/4581871.stm
A&E doctors are calling for a ban on long pointed kitchen knives to reduce deaths from stabbing.

A team from West Middlesex University Hospital said violent crime is on the increase - and kitchen knives are used in as many as half of all stabbings.

They argued many assaults are committed impulsively, prompted by alcohol and drugs, and a kitchen knife often makes an all too available weapon.

I knew some crap like this was going to come up sooner or later, the Brits have made handgun ownership a crime, self defense nearly impossible, and now they're going after kitchen knives. (my bad, they're going after pointy kitchen knives)

What's next on the list?

Ban rocks & sharp sticks
How is Bush somehow responsible for this? I'm sure we'll have that post coming shortly.. I'm coming up with a new acronym.. 'IBBH' (In Before the Bush Hater).
Where'd you get that idea? My god you're absolutely insane.
He's replaced bozack as ATP&N's bitter partisan troll.


AS FOR THE TOPIC, wonder if we'll start hearing of people being attacked with sporks? Banning kitchen knives? WTF??
 
Originally posted by: Tab
Originally posted by: Crimson
Originally posted by: Pliablemoose
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/4581871.stm
A&E doctors are calling for a ban on long pointed kitchen knives to reduce deaths from stabbing.

A team from West Middlesex University Hospital said violent crime is on the increase - and kitchen knives are used in as many as half of all stabbings.

They argued many assaults are committed impulsively, prompted by alcohol and drugs, and a kitchen knife often makes an all too available weapon.

I knew some crap like this was going to come up sooner or later, the Brits have made handgun ownership a crime, self defense nearly impossible, and now they're going after kitchen knives. (my bad, they're going after pointy kitchen knives)

What's next on the list?

Ban rocks & sharp sticks

How is Bush somehow responsible for this? I'm sure we'll have that post coming shortly.. I'm coming up with a new acronym.. 'IBBH' (In Before the Bush Hater).

Where'd you get that idea? My god you're absolutely insane.

IMO, Bush is all for gun control. I as a 'free' citizen am supposedly not allowed to own fully automatic weapons.
 
times link

British Medical Experts Campaign for Long, Pointy Knife Control
British Medical Experts Campaign for Long, Pointy Knife Control

By JOHN SCHWARTZ
Published: May 27, 2005
Warning: Long, pointy knives may be hazardous to your health.

The authors of an editorial in the latest issue of the British Medical Journal have called for knife reform. The editorial, "Reducing knife crime: We need to ban the sale of long, pointed kitchen knives," notes that the knives are being used to stab people as well as roasts and the odd tin of Spam.

The authors of the essay - Drs. Emma Hern, Will Glazebrook and Mike Beckett of the West Middlesex University Hospital in London - called for laws requiring knife manufacturers to redesign their wares with rounded, blunt tips.

The researchers noted that the rate of violent crime in Britain rose nearly 18 percent from 2003 to 2004, and that in the first two weeks of 2005, 15 killings and 16 nonfatal attacks involved stabbings. In an unusual move for a scholarly work, the researchers cited a January headline from The Daily Express, a London tabloid: "Britain is in the grip of knives terror - third of murder victims are now stabbed to death." Dr. Hern said that "we came up with the idea and tossed it into the pot" to get people talking about crime reduction. "Whether it's a sensible solution to this problem or not, I'm not sure."

In the United States, where people are more likely to debate gun control than knife control, partisans on both sides sounded amused. Wayne LaPierre, executive vice president of the National Rifle Association, asked, "Are they going to have everybody using plastic knives and forks and spoons in their own homes, like they do in airlines?"

Peter Hamm, a spokesman for the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence, which supports gun control, joked, "Can sharp stick control be far behind?" He said people in his movement were "envious" of England for having such problems. "In America, we can't even come to an agreement that guns are dangerous and we should make them safer," he said.

The authors of the editorial argued that the pointed tip is a vestigial feature from less mannered ages, when people used it to spear meat. They said that they interviewed 10 chefs in England, and that "none gave a reason why the long, pointed knife was essential," though short, pointed knives were useful.

An American chef, however, disagreed with the proposal. "This is yet another sign of the coming apocalypse," said Anthony Bourdain, the executive chef at Les Halles and the author of "Kitchen Confidential."

A knife, he said, is a beloved tool of the trade, and not a thing to be shaped by bureaucrats. A chef's relationship with his knives develops over decades of training and work, he said, adding, "Its weight, its shape - these are all extensions of our arms, and in many ways, our personalities."

He compared the editorial to efforts to ban unpasteurized cheese. "Where there is no risk," he said, "there is no pleasure."




 
Originally posted by: Dissipate


IMO, Bush is all for gun control. I as a 'free' citizen am supposedly not allowed to own fully automatic weapons.

Why would a "free" citizen need a fully automatic weapon?
 
Originally posted by: Dissipate
Originally posted by: Tab
Originally posted by: Crimson
Originally posted by: Pliablemoose
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/4581871.stm
A&E doctors are calling for a ban on long pointed kitchen knives to reduce deaths from stabbing.

A team from West Middlesex University Hospital said violent crime is on the increase - and kitchen knives are used in as many as half of all stabbings.

They argued many assaults are committed impulsively, prompted by alcohol and drugs, and a kitchen knife often makes an all too available weapon.

I knew some crap like this was going to come up sooner or later, the Brits have made handgun ownership a crime, self defense nearly impossible, and now they're going after kitchen knives. (my bad, they're going after pointy kitchen knives)

What's next on the list?

Ban rocks & sharp sticks

How is Bush somehow responsible for this? I'm sure we'll have that post coming shortly.. I'm coming up with a new acronym.. 'IBBH' (In Before the Bush Hater).

Where'd you get that idea? My god you're absolutely insane.

IMO, Bush is all for gun control. I as a 'free' citizen am supposedly not allowed to own fully automatic weapons.


Thats not true. You ARE depending on what state you live in and you are licensed to own such weapons.
 
bush is responsible by virtue of his control of the puppet blair.

i'm kidding, and couldn't help myself.

but seriously, this one is completely off kilter. maybe somedays you will have to cut off your hands as to cut down on strangulations.
 
Originally posted by: Pliablemoose
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/4581871.stm
A&E doctors are calling for a ban on long pointed kitchen knives to reduce deaths from stabbing.

A team from West Middlesex University Hospital said violent crime is on the increase - and kitchen knives are used in as many as half of all stabbings.

They argued many assaults are committed impulsively, prompted by alcohol and drugs, and a kitchen knife often makes an all too available weapon.

I knew some crap like this was going to come up sooner or later, the Brits have made handgun ownership a crime, self defense nearly impossible, and now they're going after kitchen knives. (my bad, they're going after pointy kitchen knives)

What's next on the list?

Ban rocks & sharp sticks

Handgun bans are a good thing. If you need a reason to protect yourself your either stupid or a drug dealer.
Thats why so many americans have guns i guess 😛
 
Originally posted by: Tab
Originally posted by: Crimson
Originally posted by: Pliablemoose
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/4581871.stm
A&E doctors are calling for a ban on long pointed kitchen knives to reduce deaths from stabbing.

A team from West Middlesex University Hospital said violent crime is on the increase - and kitchen knives are used in as many as half of all stabbings.

They argued many assaults are committed impulsively, prompted by alcohol and drugs, and a kitchen knife often makes an all too available weapon.

I knew some crap like this was going to come up sooner or later, the Brits have made handgun ownership a crime, self defense nearly impossible, and now they're going after kitchen knives. (my bad, they're going after pointy kitchen knives)

What's next on the list?

Ban rocks & sharp sticks

How is Bush somehow responsible for this? I'm sure we'll have that post coming shortly.. I'm coming up with a new acronym.. 'IBBH' (In Before the Bush Hater).

Where'd you get that idea? My god you're absolutely insane.

You don't say.
 
Originally posted by: Forsythe
Originally posted by: Pliablemoose
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/4581871.stm
A&E doctors are calling for a ban on long pointed kitchen knives to reduce deaths from stabbing.

A team from West Middlesex University Hospital said violent crime is on the increase - and kitchen knives are used in as many as half of all stabbings.

They argued many assaults are committed impulsively, prompted by alcohol and drugs, and a kitchen knife often makes an all too available weapon.

I knew some crap like this was going to come up sooner or later, the Brits have made handgun ownership a crime, self defense nearly impossible, and now they're going after kitchen knives. (my bad, they're going after pointy kitchen knives)

What's next on the list?

Ban rocks & sharp sticks

Rock & stick bans are a good thing. If you need a reason to protect yourself your either stupid or a drug dealer.
Thats why so many Brits have rocks & sticks I guess 😛

Us Brits shouldn't own sharp knives either.

Edited for accuracy

 
Originally posted by: nutxo
Originally posted by: Dissipate
Originally posted by: Tab
Originally posted by: Crimson
Originally posted by: Pliablemoose
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/4581871.stm
A&E doctors are calling for a ban on long pointed kitchen knives to reduce deaths from stabbing.

A team from West Middlesex University Hospital said violent crime is on the increase - and kitchen knives are used in as many as half of all stabbings.

They argued many assaults are committed impulsively, prompted by alcohol and drugs, and a kitchen knife often makes an all too available weapon.

I knew some crap like this was going to come up sooner or later, the Brits have made handgun ownership a crime, self defense nearly impossible, and now they're going after kitchen knives. (my bad, they're going after pointy kitchen knives)

What's next on the list?

Ban rocks & sharp sticks

How is Bush somehow responsible for this? I'm sure we'll have that post coming shortly.. I'm coming up with a new acronym.. 'IBBH' (In Before the Bush Hater).

Where'd you get that idea? My god you're absolutely insane.

IMO, Bush is all for gun control. I as a 'free' citizen am supposedly not allowed to own fully automatic weapons.


Thats not true. You ARE depending on what state you live in and you are licensed to own such weapons.

Oh great, a license, so that way they know exactly where to go first to pick up all the guns when the military state is in effect and the tanks are rolling down the street.
 
Considering how far British society has fallen this is really no surprise. Anyone who thinks that outlawing guns/knives etc. will make society a safer place is mistaken. Almost ANYTYHING can be misused!!!! What?s next, electric razors?

What has made the US a pretty great place to live is our personal freedoms. The original intent of the founding father of the US was to allow its citizens to have arms to protect it from an oppressive government.

The old adage of "Outlaw guns and only the outlaws will have them" is so true you can't believe it. Go to some foreign country that has strict gun laws and see how often normal people get popped by the criminals that ignore any gun control laws? I spend a lot of time in the former Soviet Union and they have VERY strict gun control laws. Guess who has all the guns, the mob! And the police of course but what difference is there between them anyway? Almost ALL the criminals have full auto weapons so do you think any silly little law stopped them?

Crimes of passion are going to occur anyway. They will always find some other way to kill their intended victim. If it isn't a gun, it'll be a knife. If it isn't a knife, it can be a car. Etc., etc. At what point do you stop outlawing things? Heck just break a mirror and you can slice someone up really bad too. Are they next?

Another fallacy is that you don't need to protect your self because of police presence. There is very little a policeman CAN DO until a AFTER crime has been committed!!! Go ask one? Until something is actually done to you, they can?t intervene because no laws were broken. So after they shoot/stab you, the police can arrest the individual. Until that point you are just a target. That is why I am thankful that my state allows concealed carry. Criminals think twice now before car-jacking people or committing other violent crimes.

I am not some right-wing whacko but I intend to protect my family and my property. I started hunting a long time ago and have been around firearms all my life. I spend enough time practicing that I know I can drop the perp right between his eyes before he can say hand me your money. I used to trust the police for my protection and I got 150 stitches in my abdomen for making that mistake. At least my assailant came out worse than me.
 
Originally posted by: Pliablemoose
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/4581871.stm
A&E doctors are calling for a ban on long pointed kitchen knives to reduce deaths from stabbing.

A team from West Middlesex University Hospital said violent crime is on the increase - and kitchen knives are used in as many as half of all stabbings.

They argued many assaults are committed impulsively, prompted by alcohol and drugs, and a kitchen knife often makes an all too available weapon.

I knew some crap like this was going to come up sooner or later, the Brits have made handgun ownership a crime, self defense nearly impossible, and now they're going after kitchen knives. (my bad, they're going after pointy kitchen knives)

What's next on the list?

Ban rocks & sharp sticks

Ever wonder why table knives have a rounded end? A french King some Centuries ago decreed that all knives used at a dinner table to be so. The reason was to cut down on killings at Dinner.

Just some trivia from memory.
 
Originally posted by: sandorski
Originally posted by: Pliablemoose
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/4581871.stm
A&E doctors are calling for a ban on long pointed kitchen knives to reduce deaths from stabbing.

A team from West Middlesex University Hospital said violent crime is on the increase - and kitchen knives are used in as many as half of all stabbings.

They argued many assaults are committed impulsively, prompted by alcohol and drugs, and a kitchen knife often makes an all too available weapon.

I knew some crap like this was going to come up sooner or later, the Brits have made handgun ownership a crime, self defense nearly impossible, and now they're going after kitchen knives. (my bad, they're going after pointy kitchen knives)

What's next on the list?

Ban rocks & sharp sticks

Ever wonder why table knives have a rounded end? A french King some Centuries ago decreed that all knives used at a dinner table to be so. The reason was to cut down on killings at Dinner.

Just some trivia from memory.
haha and makes sense even 🙂
 
This is silly even for P&N

Read the text: It was a suggestion from a "A team from West Middlesex University Hospital".
Now, if it had been a suggestion from a group of MPs or the British goverment this thread would have had some merit.
You can propbaly easily find people in the U.K who thinks it would be a good idea to ban cars, interest rates, private property, goverments, religion, cell phones, computers etc; there is no reason to take suggestions like this seriously OR draw any concusions from it.






 
Originally posted by: Tab
Originally posted by: Crimson
Originally posted by: Pliablemoose
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/4581871.stm
A&E doctors are calling for a ban on long pointed kitchen knives to reduce deaths from stabbing.

A team from West Middlesex University Hospital said violent crime is on the increase - and kitchen knives are used in as many as half of all stabbings.

They argued many assaults are committed impulsively, prompted by alcohol and drugs, and a kitchen knife often makes an all too available weapon.

I knew some crap like this was going to come up sooner or later, the Brits have made handgun ownership a crime, self defense nearly impossible, and now they're going after kitchen knives. (my bad, they're going after pointy kitchen knives)

What's next on the list?

Ban rocks & sharp sticks

How is Bush somehow responsible for this? I'm sure we'll have that post coming shortly.. I'm coming up with a new acronym.. 'IBBH' (In Before the Bush Hater).

Where'd you get that idea? My god you're absolutely insane.
Not insane. Just a simple troll.

That's it.. I'm out..


 
Originally posted by: Forsythe
Originally posted by: Pliablemoose
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/4581871.stm
A&E doctors are calling for a ban on long pointed kitchen knives to reduce deaths from stabbing.

A team from West Middlesex University Hospital said violent crime is on the increase - and kitchen knives are used in as many as half of all stabbings.

They argued many assaults are committed impulsively, prompted by alcohol and drugs, and a kitchen knife often makes an all too available weapon.

I knew some crap like this was going to come up sooner or later, the Brits have made handgun ownership a crime, self defense nearly impossible, and now they're going after kitchen knives. (my bad, they're going after pointy kitchen knives)

What's next on the list?

Ban rocks & sharp sticks

Handgun bans are a good thing. If you need a reason to protect yourself your either stupid or a drug dealer.
Thats why so many americans have guns i guess 😛

No matter how many times I read that statement it seems insane.
 
Originally posted by: Pliablemoose
Originally posted by: Forsythe
Originally posted by: Pliablemoose
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/4581871.stm
A&E doctors are calling for a ban on long pointed kitchen knives to reduce deaths from stabbing.

A team from West Middlesex University Hospital said violent crime is on the increase - and kitchen knives are used in as many as half of all stabbings.

They argued many assaults are committed impulsively, prompted by alcohol and drugs, and a kitchen knife often makes an all too available weapon.

I knew some crap like this was going to come up sooner or later, the Brits have made handgun ownership a crime, self defense nearly impossible, and now they're going after kitchen knives. (my bad, they're going after pointy kitchen knives)

What's next on the list?

Ban rocks & sharp sticks

Rock & stick bans are a good thing. If you need a reason to protect yourself your either stupid or a drug dealer.
Thats why so many Brits have rocks & sticks I guess 😛

Us Brits shouldn't own sharp knives either.

Edited for accuracy

I'm not at brit, look at my info. Banning sharp long knives is stupid, but banning guns is smart.
 
Originally posted by: nutxo
Originally posted by: Forsythe
Originally posted by: Pliablemoose
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/4581871.stm
A&E doctors are calling for a ban on long pointed kitchen knives to reduce deaths from stabbing.

A team from West Middlesex University Hospital said violent crime is on the increase - and kitchen knives are used in as many as half of all stabbings.

They argued many assaults are committed impulsively, prompted by alcohol and drugs, and a kitchen knife often makes an all too available weapon.

I knew some crap like this was going to come up sooner or later, the Brits have made handgun ownership a crime, self defense nearly impossible, and now they're going after kitchen knives. (my bad, they're going after pointy kitchen knives)

What's next on the list?

Ban rocks & sharp sticks

Handgun bans are a good thing. If you need a reason to protect yourself your either stupid or a drug dealer.
Thats why so many americans have guns i guess 😛

No matter how many times I read that statement it seems insane.

Which one? I can tell you it was a vague attempted joke.
 
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