ISTANBUL Hit with Several Major Explosions

[CaptnKirk]

There has been a rise in the political statements made by terrorist organizations in the Middle East since our Iraq invasion.

The premise of every one of these attacks is that "If you are friendly to any cause of the US you are also a target,
and the US cannot protect you."

Turkey has become a place to make these statements in the 'right-now' time frame, with last weeks
targeting of Jewish groups to punish Turkey for being friendly to US intrests, and playing the US support
of Israel as a trump card to incite more fear and hatred.

Todays bombing in Turkey of British cultural investments - while Bush is visiting England -
is like underlining the whole senerio with a black marker to further infurriate British society.

This may go one of two ways, depending on how the british perceive Bushes attitude.

A) It may polarize some to extend their allegiance to Bushes policies, since it was an
attack on British personel by the group that Bush is making his target.

or

B) It may make British culture further reject Bush and his policies for draging England
into a fight as their only true followers, and that it is now costing them their lives - unjustly.

In the eyes of the world, and popular opinion - it may be more of the B) than the A).

There will probably be another attack today in Iraq, more tomorrow in Turkey - and elsewhere.
This will probably continue and intensify as the Western Cultures enter their Thanksgiving to
Christmas, to New Years Holidays. It make their point more insideous.

 

[rahvin]

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Al-Qaida has reportedly claimed responsibility.

Anyone know the goal of this Group?
Do they want to be a Country?
Is Osama the Leader with Saddam 2nd in command?
Do they want to overthrow all Governments of the world and rule the world?

When haven't they claimed their goals?

1. Destruction of Western Society (in particular the US and Israel although not limited to those two)
2. Impliementation of Sharia worldwide
3. Forced coversion of the entire world to Islam

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: rahvin

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Al-Qaida has reportedly claimed responsibility.

Anyone know the goal of this Group?
Do they want to be a Country?
Is Osama the Leader with Saddam 2nd in command?
Do they want to overthrow all Governments of the world and rule the world?

When haven't they claimed their goals?

1. Destruction of Western Society (in particular the US and Israel although not limited to those two)
2. Impliementation of Sharia worldwide
3. Forced coversion of the entire world to Islam

Just as bad as Religious extremists here then. The whole planet has gone Religious batty. Maybe Athiests have the right idea after all.

 

[Mill]

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: Ultra Quiet

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: Ultra Quiet
You guys are missing it again. This was an operation put on by the CIA to distract attention from the protests against Bush in the UK.

You really need to get with the program. Sheesh.

Extremely poor taste post. Go back to Off Topic TROLL.

Stick it up your ass, Dave. You really don't want to go down the road where you and I are critiquing each other's posts. You are quite literally one of the least intelligent people on this board, constantly ranting about things you know nothing about, predicting things that have no chance of happening and generally adding nothing to the content of this board. So if you really want to start a critiquing game I'll be more than happy to flame your felonious, ignorant, Chicken Little ass right into oblivion.

Say what you want about me but that doesn't change your post about the killing of innocents and even joking about it being a U.S. sanctioned or originated event Sir.

He wasn't "joking" he was using sarcasm to prove a point.

 

[Lonyo]

Originally posted by: CaptnKirk
There has been a rise in the political statements made by terrorist organizations in the Middle East since our Iraq invasion.

The premise of every one of these attacks is that "If you are friendly to any cause of the US you are also a target,
and the US cannot protect you."

Turkey has become a place to make these statements in the 'right-now' time frame, with last weeks
targeting of Jewish groups to punish Turkey for being friendly to US intrests, and playing the US support
of Israel as a trump card to incite more fear and hatred.

Todays bombing in Turkey of British cultural investments - while Bush is visiting England -
is like underlining the whole senerio with a black marker to further infurriate British society.

This may go one of two ways, depending on how the british perceive Bushes attitude.

<STRONG>A)</strong> It may polarize some to extend their allegiance to Bushes policies, since it was an
attack on British personel by the group that Bush is making his target.

or

<STRONG>B)</strong> It may make British culture further reject Bush and his policies for draging England
into a fight as their only true followers, and that it is now costing them their lives - unjustly.

In the eyes of the world, and popular opinion - it may be more of the <STRONG>B)</strong> than the <STRONG>A)</strong>.

There will probably be another attack today in Iraq, more tomorrow in Turkey - and elsewhere.
This will probably continue and intensify as the Western Cultures enter their Thanksgiving to
Christmas, to New Years Holidays. It make their point more insideous.

Seems to be a fairly valid train of thought to me.

Might be worth seeing if it happens again, that an attack occurs related to Bush, and then it would also help protect areas that might be under threat.

 

[Mill]

And here I thought Al-Qaida's infrastructure had been severely damaged since we invaded Afghanistan.

 

[SuperTool]

Originally posted by: Millennium
And here I thought Al-Qaida's infrastructure had been severely damaged since we invaded Afghanistan.

Whatever doesn't kill you just makes you stronger. And since Bush's attention span didn't last long enough to finish the job, here we go again.

 

[rchiu]

What do you expect? While Bush/Blair is busy taking out Iraqis that has nothing to do with Al-Qaeda or 911, Al-Qaeda was busy recuriting new members, and planning new attacks.

The stupidity of Bush/Blair and neo-cons and thier actions has only pushed the perception of West vs. Muslim, creates more hatred towards the West in Muslim world, push more people to join the likes of Al-Qaeda and make it easier for the terrorist to hide and act.

Unless Bush/Blair plans to take out the whole Muslim population, they better start thinking about how to win this war of mind and perception and not just go out and kill anybody that they think is against them.

 

[Turkish]

26 dead... my poor country

 

[DBL]

Originally posted by: rchiu
What do you expect? While Bush/Blair is busy taking out Iraqis that has nothing to do with Al-Qaeda or 911, Al-Qaeda was busy recuriting new members, and planning new attacks.

The stupidity of Bush/Blair and neo-cons and thier actions has only pushed the perception of West vs. Muslim, creates more hatred towards the West in Muslim world, push more people to join the likes of Al-Qaeda and make it easier for the terrorist to hide and act.

Unless Bush/Blair plans to take out the whole Muslim population, they better start thinking about how to win this war of mind and perception and not just go out and kill anybody that they think is against them.

On the contrary, it could be argued that considering the immense world crackdown on terrorists both physically and monetarily, Al Qaeda and its ilk choose the path of least resistance. What could possibly be an easier target than Turkey, considering its recent history of peaceful relations and an overwhelming Muslim population?

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: Xiety
26 dead... my poor country

My Condolences

 

[Fencer128]

Hi,

It seems this was a joint attack.

A man who called the semi-official Anatolia news agency said al-Qaeda and the Turkish Islamic militant group IBDA-C had jointly carried out the attacks

Quote from BBC story.

Cheers,

Andy

 

[burnedout]

Originally posted by: Xiety
26 dead... my poor country

Merhaba Xiety. I offer my condolences.

 

[LilBlinbBlahIce]

Originally posted by: alchemize

Originally posted by: LilBlinbBlahIce
This is craziness. Our veering off to Iraq instead of consentrating on crushing al-Quaeda in Afghnistan is coming back to haunt us and our allies. It is quite obvious that they are the ones in control of the war on terror, striking wherever and whenever they please with impunity and with no body having a clue on how to stop them. What's all the scarier is that now they are attacking fellow Muslims. I hope this is proof to all those people who claim ALL of Isalm is barbaric, radicalized and against the west that they are full of sh!t. It's the Muslim moderate/liberal majority that is being targeted just as indiscriminently. I've been to Turkey once and absolutely loved it. I hope they manage to get things in control before those fvckers mess anything else up.

Now maybe the moderate/liberal "majority" will get off their arses and do something about fundamentalism.

Oh, nothing wrong with fundamentalism. In the words of Sultan "they are just practicing their faith"

I was wondering when you would join in and say something typically retarded like that. What do you expect the average Muslim to do? Close down the madrissas? Ban speakers at mosques? Then you would bitch that there is no freedom of speech. Forget the moderate muslim majority, WE havn't been able to do anything about fundamentalism so pull your head our of your ass.