Israel's "roof knocking" technology

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Borealis7

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Perhaps not robbing their neigbors blind
Israel gives Gaza: Water, Electricity, Petrol, Food, Money, medical treatment, building materials and much more. doesn't seem like robbing to me.

equal human rights
Israel treats sick Gazans in it's hospitals. do you suppose Palestinian would do the same for sick Israelis? how is that going to be equal?

and abolish discrimination
Arab Israelis have equal rights in Israel. Israel has even had an Arab beauty queen, and an Arab "The Voice" winner. in fact, they don't even have to serve in the military like every other Israeli citizen is required by law. ('cause, you know, they can't make you fight your own people)

and fair access to water as a start
see point 1.

You dismantle the apartheid state. No justice, no peace.
it's ridiculous demanding Israel to give Palestinian "equal rights", they are not Israeli citizens!
look at Ramallah in the West Bank - supposedly occupied territory - the city is thriving economically.
peace is met with peace.
 
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Abwx

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in fact, they don't even have to serve in the military like every other Israeli citizen is required by law. ('cause, you know, they can't make you fight your own people)

Wrong, and we saw it when israel attacked Lebanon.

There are a lot of other lies in your post but this is the most remarkable.
 

Borealis7

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Wrong, and we saw it when israel attacked Lebanon.
There are a lot of other lies in your post but this is the most remarkable.
you are mistaken. Arab Israelis are exempt of the mandatory military service in Israel (so are ultra-orthodox jews BTW). there are, however, Druzi and Cherkesi soldiers who volunteer and even some Arabs that volunteer. the Druz who live in the north of Israel feel very strongly about volunteering because it's in their tradition to be loyal to the country they live in.
 
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iGas

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Israel gives Gaza: Water, Electricity, Petrol, Food, Money, medical treatment, building materials and much more. doesn't seem like robbing to me.
The "gives" are free, I read the Palestinian authority has to pay with the aid money that they get from international countries that is hold in kind by the Israeli government (and I'm sure that the Israelis have problem with embezzlement and corruptions just any other countries, hence it is likely that the Palestinian only see a fraction of the international aid that were allotted for them).

Israel treats sick Gazans in it's hospitals. do you suppose Palestinian would do the same for sick Israelis? how is that going to be equal?
I'm sure that the Palestinian would treats the Israeli sicks just as they are doing now (Gaza Doctor Izzeldin Abuelaish Two Years After Israeli Attack ).

Arab Israelis have equal rights in Israel. Israel has even had an Arab beauty queen, and an Arab "The Voice" winner. in fact, they don't even have to serve in the military like every other Israeli citizen is required by law. ('cause, you know, they can't make you fight your own people)
Human Rights Concerns -- Amnesty International

Israeli air attacks in Gaza -- Human Rights Watch

Human rights violations in occupied Palestinian territory cannot be distorted -- UN

Israeli Violations of Human Rights and International Humanitarian Law – Excessive Use of Force, Killings, and Other Violations of the Right to Life -- Global Research

it's ridiculous demanding Israel to give Palestinian "equal rights", they are not Israeli citizens!
look at Ramallah in the West Bank - supposedly occupied territory - the city is thriving economically.
peace is met with peace.
In the same breath, it is ridiculous for the Zionist to demand recognition and equal rights in the world stage since they are untermensch.

It sounded like a regurgitation of what your evil leaders feed to you, and you excuses sounded like the excuses of the Nazi when they were prosecuting Jews.

What's good for the goose is good for the gander.
 

Abwx

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you are mistaken. Arab Israelis are exempt of the mandatory military service in Israel (so are ultra-orthodox jews BTW). there are, however, Druzi and Cherkesi soldiers who volunteer and even some Arabs that volunteer. the Druz who live in the north of Israel feel very strongly about volunteering because it's in their tradition to be loyal to the country they live in.

You are right somewhat but this law expired two years ago....
 

Borealis7

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irrelevant nonsense
you're not making any sense. leave the Nazis out of this, any comparison to Nazi Germany is irrelevant.
none of the links you provided have anything to do with Arabs living inside Israeli borders.
Israel cannot give equal rights to people who are not it's citizens! how hard can that be to understand? that's the PLO's job!

You are right somewhat but this law expired two years ago....
i don't see that written in the law, in any case the law is being re-evaluated due to will of the government to draft ultra-orthodox jews who are also exempt of serving.
 
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iGas

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you're not making any sense. leave the Nazis out of this, any comparison to Nazi Germany is irrelevant.
none of the links you provided have anything to do with Arabs living inside Israeli borders.
Israel cannot give equal rights to people who are not it's citizens! how hard can that be to understand? that's the PLO's job!
As I see it the excuses that you and many extremists here a claiming are similar to what the Nazi use as propaganda to fuel their cause.

You are right that one country do not need to recognized or give another country citizen the same rights as its own citizen. However one have the obligation to treat everyone equally once one occupy the other country and its populous (ie, England recognition of all people/countries as equal in the UK). And, private properties are respected.
 

tommo123

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Israel gives Gaza: Water, Electricity, Petrol, Food, Money, medical treatment, building materials and much more. doesn't seem like robbing to me.


Israel treats sick Gazans in it's hospitals. do you suppose Palestinian would do the same for sick Israelis? how is that going to be equal?


Arab Israelis have equal rights in Israel. Israel has even had an Arab beauty queen, and an Arab "The Voice" winner. in fact, they don't even have to serve in the military like every other Israeli citizen is required by law. ('cause, you know, they can't make you fight your own people)


see point 1.


it's ridiculous demanding Israel to give Palestinian "equal rights", they are not Israeli citizens!
look at Ramallah in the West Bank - supposedly occupied territory - the city is thriving economically.
peace is met with peace.

what were they before the land was illegally seized? take the borders back to those when israel was created in the 40s.

to be fair though, i read this shit but dont know why. it doesn't bother me anymore. let both sides kill innocent people on the other. all it does is breed more and more hate that can only end in severe bloodshed on both sides.

maybe that's what it'll take.
 

kage69

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IMHO, the initial impact would do enough damage/disorientate to the occupants on the top floor and perhaps the floor below that as well. And, the delay fuse give the rescuer enough time to gather in the building before it destroy everything.

And, IMHO 2 wrongs don't make a right.


What fuse would this be then?
 

kage69

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Palestinians kidnap and kill 3 Israeli teens. Palestinians rejoice and interfere with efforts to find them.
Israelis kidnap and kill a Palestinian teen. Israelis track down and arrest the perpetrators.

Note the difference.

I think if you did some reading on this story you might notice a few distinctions yourself, one being that the Palestinian security forces did indeed assist with the search for the missing boys.

Curious though, how does your view on IDF conduct square with the American 15yr old who was recently cuffed then beaten by 3 Border police? Google Tariq Khdeir, then tell us why after this incident happened it's the beat-to-a-pulp minor who is under investigation, and not the assholes sitting on him and kicking him in the face?
 

piasabird

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In some places the Israeli's actually stole houses and whole towns built by Palestinians. In occupied territories the military protects only Israeli people they don't keep the peace and they don't stop Israeli's from attacking or harassing Palestinians.
 

realibrad

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Israel has every right to defend itself. But if you don't think given the incredible disparity in civilian casualties that Israel is not overstepping, I don't even know what to say.

And do you guys really feel that bombing the shit out of Palestine is going to create less animosity and attacks toward you guys?

So, what should Israel do? They have much more technology, but not enough to do anything other that what they seem to be doing.

Honestly though, if a foreign people were shooting rockets at you by the thousands, what should you do? Just hope that they dont come up with a way to evade your Iron Dome I guess.
 

ch33zw1z

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At least there's a warning before it's leveled. it's more than many people in areas like that get.