Israel's News Icon Blasts "Brutal" Occupation

GreatBarracuda

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True words from an insider. That's my take on it. Being the top news anchorman in Israel, I'm sure his voice carries more weight than most when it comes to the Israeli/Palestinian conflict. Besides, the ostracism people like him face (without rationale) from society after going public gives one an indication of their correctness. Of course, we won't hear anything of the like from say ... Wolf Blitzer anytime soon.

In fact, he is one figure in a growing list of Israelis who want the world to know what's really going on, only to be completely shunned by peers. What's the name of the guy who made that award-winning documentary on a group of Palestinian children in a play, "___'s children"?

It must have taken a lot of courage on his part. Better late than never.

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Israel's News Icon Blasts "Brutal" Occupation


CAIRO, June 1, 2005 (IslamOnline.net) ? Israel is behaving like a brutal conqueror and occupier in the West Bank and Gaza Strip, Israel's top television news anchorman said in a documentary he filmed on Jewish settlements.

?I regard this as a Greek tragedy. I don't see any solution,? Haim Yavin, a founder of Israel's state-run Channel One and its news anchor for 37 years, told The Guardian in an interview published on Wednesday, June 1.

?Since 1967 we have been brutal conquerors, occupiers, suppressing another people that has a claim to this land,? Yavin said in his ?Diary of a Journey? film which was aired on Tuesday, May 31.

He not only questions the occupation and the settlements, but the commitment of successive governments, including Ariel Sharon's, to curbing Israel's hunger for land and the expansion of its colonies, the British daily said.

?This merrymaking will never be stopped,? Yavin maintained.

Commenting on the endless suffering of the Palestinian people under the yoke of the Israeli occupation, he said: ?I cannot really do anything to relieve this misery, other than to document it, so that neither I nor those like me will be able to say that we saw nothing, heard nothing, knew nothing.?

The five-part documentary marked a dramatic departure by the popularly known ?Mr. TV? from a decades-long policy of avoiding personal political commentary.

It is the result of his visits during more than two years to the West Bank and Gaza Strip, carrying his small camera.

[His] film was broadcast on a commercial channel after Channel One turned it down.

Yavin further said that Jewish settlers pose a threat to Israel.

?I have sympathy for the settlers, but I think they are wrong and that they are endangering us,? he said.

In the film, some settlers tell Yavin that the Palestinians must be given a deadline to leave the occupied territories or be forced out.

?Otherwise we should just bomb and kill them,? says one woman.

The Council of Jewish Settlements in the West Bank and Gaza Strip demanded the 72-year-old anchorman's dismissal from state-owned Israel Television.

The international community and a raft of UN resolutions regard as illegal all Jewish settlements built on occupied Palestinian lands in the Gaza Strip and the West Bank.

The UN Commission on Human Rights on April 14 condemned Israel?s continued settlement building in the occupied Palestinian territories.

Defying international resolutions, Israel revealed on May 16, plans to build a section of its separation wall to link the largest Maale Adumim settlement in the occupied West Bank to Al-Quds (occupied East Jerusalem).

The controversial barrier has been deemed illegal by the International Court of Justice and the UN General Assembly adopted a resolution demanding Tel Aviv to tear it down and compensate affected Palestinians.

"Horrors"

?My intention was to get the personal feelings of the settlers, of the Palestinians,? Yavin told The Guardian.

Among those filmed by Yavin is an Israeli soldier in Al-Khalil (Hebron) who wonders how his compatriots can remain silent in the face of the ?horrors? the army commits, and the settlers who ask him why he is not shooting Palestinian children.

Israeli reservist Erlik Alhanan told IslamOnline.net in 2004 that the number of Israeli reservists who refuse to do their military service in the occupied Palestinian territories was on the rise due to the illegal army practices.

Over the past four years, journalists and world media outlets have joined a chorus of condemnation of the Israeli aggressions on the Palestinians and the authoritarian policy of suppressing freedom of speech and censoring media coverage.

Chief among journalists who criticized Israel is the BBC's world news editor, Jonathan Baker, who said Israel was prepared to take even stronger measures to conceal what was happening in the occupied territories from the outside world.

Israel has further drawn a welter of criticism for targeting journalists in the occupied territories.

In May 2003, award-wining British journalist James Miller breathed his last after being shot in the neck by Israeli troops in Rafah as he was filming demolition of Palestinian houses Israeli bulldozers.

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Edit: ?I cannot really do anything to relieve this misery, other than to document it, so that neither I nor those like me will be able to say that we saw nothing, heard nothing, knew nothing.?

I think I'll have to agree with Spiderman here: with great power, comes great responsibility. :)
 

Infohawk

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There are a decent amount of Israelis doing the right thing. Too bad they're in the minority.

In May 2003, award-wining British journalist James Miller breathed his last after being shot in the neck by Israeli troops in Rafah as he was filming demolition of Palestinian houses Israeli bulldozers.
Disgusting.
 

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Originally posted by: Infohawk
There are a decent amount of Israelis doing the right thing. Too bad they're in the minority.

In May 2003, award-wining British journalist James Miller breathed his last after being shot in the neck by Israeli troops in Rafah as he was filming demolition of Palestinian houses Israeli bulldozers.
Disgusting.

Also, what was her name, Rachel Corrie (sp), who was deliberately run over by the Israeli bulldozer as she was protesting against the demolition of a Palestinian house?

Why kill the messenger if there's nothing (evil) to hide?
 

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Rachel was an American citizen and not a peep was heard from our administration. There was no outrage, no howling, no cries for revenge and bombing, no multi-million lawsuits.
 

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I certainly hope Israel completely vacates Gaza and the West Bank. Most realists do.

On a side note, in a sick and twisted way, I want to see just how badly screwed up a hamas dominated and controlled Gaza is going to be.
 

Infohawk

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Originally posted by: gallivanter
On a side note, in a sick and twisted way, I want to see just how badly screwed up a hamas dominated and controlled Gaza is going to be.

Your hatred and selfishness is not a side note. It's at the root of the problem.
 

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Originally posted by: Infohawk
Originally posted by: gallivanter
On a side note, in a sick and twisted way, I want to see just how badly screwed up a hamas dominated and controlled Gaza is going to be.

Your hatred and selfishness is not a side note. It's at the root of the problem.

Giving folks like you, and many Palestinians, what they wish for is hatred? Wow.


I always thought the the expressed goal of pushing the Jews into the sea was hatred, but now I know differently.


(And just to clarify, again, I do advocate the abandonment of all settlements in Gaza and the West Bank.)
 

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Originally posted by: Infohawk
Originally posted by: gallivanter
On a side note, in a sick and twisted way, I want to see just how badly screwed up a hamas dominated and controlled Gaza is going to be.

Your hatred and selfishness is not a side note. It's at the root of the problem.

I think hes a Sith. :)
 

0roo0roo

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Originally posted by: GreatBarracuda
Originally posted by: Infohawk
There are a decent amount of Israelis doing the right thing. Too bad they're in the minority.

In May 2003, award-wining British journalist James Miller breathed his last after being shot in the neck by Israeli troops in Rafah as he was filming demolition of Palestinian houses Israeli bulldozers.
Disgusting.

Also, what was her name, Rachel Corrie (sp), who was deliberately run over by the Israeli bulldozer as she was protesting against the demolition of a Palestinian house?

Why kill the messenger if there's nothing (evil) to hide?


actually thats the story that was deliberately distorted for sympathy with pictures of her that didn't represent what she was really doing at the time..which was laying low enhough that the bulldozer probably really didn't see her.

and well theres a difference. a peace nik trying to block the path of a suicide bomber,...hamas bomb maker, or gunman...never happen:p peaceniks only go after israle. go after the palestinians and you are dead in second.

as for the newsman, its a liberal democratic society. people have different opinons and freedom of speech. palestinians just immediately murder "collaborators" just as we have people like churchill in the us that think that call the 9/11 civilian dead as little eichmans, you can have people say stupid things in israel without being killed. as for concealment, israel has the highest concentration of reporters per mile in the world. it is onlybecause of its democratic government that the media gets to cluster f*ck it

the site has some hilarious links though http://www.islamonline.net/livedialogue/english/Browse.asp?hGuestID=H8lLDt
 

Infohawk

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Originally posted by: 0roo0roo


actually thats the story that was deliberately distorted for sympathy with pictures of her that didn't represent what she was really doing at the time..which was laying low enhough that the bulldozer probably really didn't see her.

Uh-huh. Yeah. Right.
 

Aimster

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100 years from now, Israel will be dominated by the Arabs they have "brutalized". Unless they want to kick them all out.
 

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Originally posted by: Aimster
100 years from now, Israel will be dominated by the Arabs they have "brutalized". Unless they want to kick them all out.

You are saying that the Arabs will win a war against Israel in that time?
 

Aimster

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Originally posted by: Infohawk
Originally posted by: Aimster
100 years from now, Israel will be dominated by the Arabs they have "brutalized". Unless they want to kick them all out.

You are saying that the Arabs will win a war against Israel in that time?

Im saying there are 2 million Arabs already living in Israel and they keep popping up.
 

Infohawk

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Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: Infohawk
Originally posted by: Aimster
100 years from now, Israel will be dominated by the Arabs they have "brutalized". Unless they want to kick them all out.

You are saying that the Arabs will win a war against Israel in that time?

Im saying there are 2 million Arabs already living in Israel and they keep popping up.

Oh. I'm thinking Israel is going to find a way to deal with them...
 

Aimster

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ok maybe not 2 million, but the number is pretty large compared to the actual population.

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How do you think they are going to deal with them?
 

Infohawk

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Originally posted by: Aimster
ok maybe not 2 million, but the number is pretty large compared to the actual population.

Edit:
How do you think they are going to deal with them?

They'll think of something. Israel hasn't let justice ever stop it before. Their actions communicate that they want a religious state no matter what. What do you think the two million arabs are going to do?
 

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The Jews were told they were worthless and internalized it. Those who are filled with unacknowledged self hate, hate others by projection which was why the Germans did that to them. Now the Jews use the Palestinians for the same purpose, somebody to feel superior to. In time the Jews will learn what the Germans did and then it will be the Palestinians, turn.

Without the death of self-realization that we feel like the worst in the world, there is only the wheel of Karma.
 

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Well this is from the media. Why would anyone expect this most likely American educated anchor from being pro-Israel? Hell, he probably went to an East Coast liberal cess pit and learned all he knows about 'journalism' or 'opinion reporting' there. So, considering how anti-American and anti-Israeli these places are would you really expect an honest interpretation from this guy.

This just reinforces my opinion of the media and their loss of touch with the real world. I believe at this point that most of the world wide media is totally entrenched in the liberal world of NAMBLA conventions, bunnies, and lollypops.
 

Infohawk

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Originally posted by: irwincur
This just reinforces my opinion of the media and their loss of touch with the real world. I believe at this point that most of the world wide media is totally entrenched in the liberal world of NAMBLA conventions, bunnies, and lollypops.

A decent troll. Completely false and insulting (the Nambla thing). 7/10
 

0roo0roo

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Originally posted by: Infohawk
Originally posted by: 0roo0roo


actually thats the story that was deliberately distorted for sympathy with pictures of her that didn't represent what she was really doing at the time..which was laying low enhough that the bulldozer probably really didn't see her.

Uh-huh. Yeah. Right.


motherjones had an article on it. she was not wearing bright clothing as shown in the pictures. she was bent over on all fours or something. the dozer is tall and armored. and well she was just another deluded idealist used by the palestinians.. as are many others. the palestinians never miss a chance to manipulate the media, whether its supposedly dead bodies falling off stretchers and running away or supposed israeli kills that turn out to be the work of strayfire by palestinian terrorists.
 

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Originally posted by: Infohawk
Originally posted by: irwincur
This just reinforces my opinion of the media and their loss of touch with the real world. I believe at this point that most of the world wide media is totally entrenched in the liberal world of NAMBLA conventions, bunnies, and lollypops.

A decent troll. Completely false and insulting (the Nambla thing). 7/10

he deserves a full case, cookies for everyone!
 

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Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
actually thats the story that was deliberately distorted for sympathy with pictures of her that didn't represent what she was really doing at the time..which was laying low enhough that the bulldozer probably really didn't see her.

Is this something the IDF is incapable of?

Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
the site has some hilarious links though http://www.islamonline.net/livedialogue/english/Browse.asp?hGuestID=H8lLDt

Tell me what's hilarious about "How Jesus Led Me to Islam"?
 

0roo0roo

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Originally posted by: GreatBarracuda
Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
actually thats the story that was deliberately distorted for sympathy with pictures of her that didn't represent what she was really doing at the time..which was laying low enhough that the bulldozer probably really didn't see her.

Is this something the IDF is incapable of?

the site has some hilarious links though http://www.islamonline.net/livedialogue/english/Browse.asp?hGuestID=H8lLDt

Tell me what's hilarious about "How Jesus Led Me to Islam"?[/quote]


its hilarious in a sad way that the site is full of articles on conversion. so desperate and arrogant, like religious propaganda. and the all encompassing nature of the questions and answers. the religion goes too far. asking questions about every last thing. should i pluck my unibrow? would that be islamic? good god. no wonder its called submission. you give up your ability to think for yourself.
 

GreatBarracuda

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Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
its hilarious in a sad way that the site is full of articles on conversion. so desperate, like religious propaganda. and the all encompassing nature of the questions and answers. the religion goes too far.

Sincere testimonials are "religious propaganda" to you? If you don't like the "islam" in islamonline.net, then please go somewhere else.