Israeli Zionists attack Africans

[schneiderguy]

and we found a racist...

He's not a racist, he makes an excellent point.

 

[cybrsage]

i wonder why they were systematically kicked out of every country they lived in ...

Because people are always looking for scapegoats and the one thing both the Catholic Church and Islam have in common is a hatred of Jews. Protestantism did for a long time as well, due to the first forms actually being Catholic-lite.

Besides, it is what HaShem causes to happen when the Jews do not faithfully follow Him. He gives warnings via prophets, then He causes disasters, then He threatens invasions, then He causes foreignors to invade and conquor them, then He causes these foreign invadors to forbid Judaism from being followed, then He causes a diaspora, then He causes great misery and woe upon the Jews by the Goyim - the Nations. At any of these steps, the Jews have the option to faithfully return to following Him and He will restore their nation and their land. Sadly, it it usually takes the entire cycle, or close to it, before the Jews again turn back to HaShem.

This latest diaspora is just the longest one and was caused by the killing of HaMashiach - The Messiah.

 

[Anarchist420]

At any of these steps, the Jews have the option to faithfully return to following Him and He will restore their nation and their land. Sadly, it it usually takes the entire cycle, or close to it, before the Jews again turn back to HaShem. This latest diaspora is just the longest one and was caused by the killing of HaMashiach - The Messiah.

How many Jews does it take for God to restore their nation and their land?

I don't think any 2 or more people are identical to each other, regardless of their religion or ethnicity.

 

[5150Joker]

Because people are always looking for scapegoats and the one thing both the Catholic Church and Islam have in common is a hatred of Jews. Protestantism did for a long time as well, due to the first forms actually being Catholic-lite.

Besides, it is what HaShem causes to happen when the Jews do not faithfully follow Him. He gives warnings via prophets, then He causes disasters, then He threatens invasions, then He causes foreignors to invade and conquor them, then He causes these foreign invadors to forbid Judaism from being followed, then He causes a diaspora, then He causes great misery and woe upon the Jews by the Goyim - the Nations. At any of these steps, the Jews have the option to faithfully return to following Him and He will restore their nation and their land. Sadly, it it usually takes the entire cycle, or close to it, before the Jews again turn back to HaShem.

This latest diaspora is just the longest one and was caused by the killing of HaMashiach - The Messiah.

I hope you were not serious with that post because anyone that believes that fairy tale bullshit is suffering from delusions.

 

[BudAshes]

He's not a racist, he makes an excellent point.

And another. Lemme guess you are a white guy that likes guns?

 

[Infohawk]

However, one would think that jews, having suffered at the hands of almost all others, all the way up to WWII, would be quite sympathetic towards others' suffrage.

Suffrage means the right to vote, it's not the same thing as "suffering."

Anyway, Jewish history also shows it can be useful to be a majority in at least one country.

 

[Anarchist420]

I hope you were not serious with that post because anyone that believes that fairy tale bullshit is suffering from delusions.

He absolutely was serious. He's a warvangelical.

 

[WelshBloke]

Because people are always looking for scapegoats and the one thing both the Catholic Church and Islam have in common is a hatred of Jews. Protestantism did for a long time as well, due to the first forms actually being Catholic-lite.

Besides, it is what HaShem causes to happen when the Jews do not faithfully follow Him. He gives warnings via prophets, then He causes disasters, then He threatens invasions, then He causes foreignors to invade and conquor them, then He causes these foreign invadors to forbid Judaism from being followed, then He causes a diaspora, then He causes great misery and woe upon the Jews by the Goyim - the Nations. At any of these steps, the Jews have the option to faithfully return to following Him and He will restore their nation and their land. Sadly, it it usually takes the entire cycle, or close to it, before the Jews again turn back to HaShem.

This latest diaspora is just the longest one and was caused by the killing of HaMashiach - The Messiah.

That's fucking nuts.

So basically what you're saying is that Hitler was doing Gods will and that the holocaust was the fault of the Jews?

 

[Anarchist420]

Suffrage means the right to vote, it's not the same thing as "suffering."

Voting is a privilege, not a right.

 

[cybrsage]

How many Jews does it take for God to restore their nation and their land?

That is up to the Jews. It can be as little as zero.

 

[cybrsage]

I hope you were not serious with that post because anyone that believes that fairy tale bullshit is suffering from delusions.

Ah, the eloquence of the ignorant. Your rousing use of the English language is a beacon of hope and enlightenment to us all. What ever would we have done had you not graced us with your view?

 

[cybrsage]

That's fucking nuts.

So basically what you're saying is that Hitler was doing Gods will and that the holocaust was the fault of the Jews?

God's will is that the Jews return to Him without any suffering. The choice to suffer is chosen by the Jews. It is part of the covenant and known in advance. History has shown it happened twice before the Romans came.

Hitler was allowed to be in power by God. Hitler's action are those of Hitler alone...God did not make him do anything. Hitler COULD HAVE aided the Jews and helped them restore their proper worship of God...instead he chose to slaughter them. The end result is the same, but the path chosen to get there was selected by Hitler.

Look at the Medo-Persian empire as an example. King Xerxes signed a decree allowing the slaughter of all the Jews in the empire - which was almost all the Jews in the world. Had the Jews not restored their faith that God would protect them, the slaughter would have happened. Instead, due to the actions of Esther (awwww - inside joke, Jews will get it), Haman (boooo - again, inside joke) would have been successful and had the Jews slaughtered. Since Esther was faithful that God would save the Jews, Haman's plan was revealed and Xerxes was able to pass another edict allowing the Jews to not only defend themselves, but also have the blessing of the King to do so. This meant their salvation.

Did Xerxes save the Jews? No, the return to faith in God did. The Jews returned to believing God was their salvation and therefor He was.

The same could have happened in WW2, but it did not. It took much more suffering before the Jews remembered that all they needed was God.

 

[WelshBloke]

...Besides, it is what HaShem causes to happen when the Jews do not faithfully follow Him. He gives warnings via prophets, then He causes disasters, then He threatens invasions, then He causes foreignors to invade and conquor them, then He causes these foreign invadors to forbid Judaism from being followed, then He causes a diaspora, then He causes great misery and woe upon the Jews by the Goyim - the Nations...

God's will is that the Jews return to Him without any suffering. The choice to suffer is chosen by the Jews. It is part of the covenant and known in advance. History has shown it happened twice before the Romans came.

Hitler was allowed to be in power by God. Hitler's action are those of Hitler alone...God did not make him do anything. Hitler COULD HAVE aided the Jews and helped them restore their proper worship of God...instead he chose to slaughter them. The end result is the same, but the path chosen to get there was selected by Hitler...

Your first quote makes it look like Hitler had no choice. If god is going to cause something to happen...

 

[cybrsage]

Your first quote makes it look like Hitler had no choice. If god is going to cause something to happen...

I think you are misunderstanding. Here are some quotes to help clear it up.

That is up to the Jews. It can be as little as zero.

Hitler COULD HAVE aided the Jews and helped them restore their proper worship of God...instead he chose to slaughter them.

God's will is that the Jews return to Him without any suffering.

The example of Esther shows that the Jews do not need to be slaughtered in order to learn. The slaughter can and will be averted if the Jews simply return to trusting in God.

Why did the Jews not only win their wars against the insanely overwhelming forces of the Arabs, but win them in an amazingly masterful way? Man alone could not have won those wars. The Jews, fresh from the terrors of Europe, placed their faith in God. The trusted that God would not bring them back to Israel just to see them die there. Their faith in God is why He defended them. No more slaughter of Jews...instead, a victor of Biblical proportions.

 

[WelshBloke]

I think you are misunderstanding. Here are some quotes to help clear it up.



The example of Esther shows that the Jews do not need to be slaughtered in order to learn. The slaughter can and will be averted if the Jews simply return to trusting in God.

Why did the Jews not only win their wars against the insanely overwhelming forces of the Arabs, but win them in an amazingly masterful way? Man alone could not have won those wars. The Jews, fresh from the terrors of Europe, placed their faith in God. The trusted that God would not bring them back to Israel just to see them die there. Their faith in God is why He defended them. No more slaughter of Jews...instead, a victor of Biblical proportions.

But ultimately it was the Jews decision to return or not to god? So it was the Jews fault that the holocaust happened?

Mind you god could just have been less of a vindictive prick in the first place and not just cause mass slaughter because some people dissed him.

 

[cybrsage]

But ultimately it was the Jews decision to return or not to god? So it was the Jews fault that the holocaust happened?

Hitler is the direct reason the Holacaust happened. It was his choice, and his alone. Had he not done it, someone else still would have, but the choice was made by Hitler and it is his to bare.

For example, say a man chains himself up to your car in protest of something. Let us say that instead of calling the cops, you call over your 280 pound ex NFL linebacker neighbor to remove the guy for you. In the process, the guy gets a little broken. Whose fault is it the guy got broken? Yours completely. The guy set himself up to be hurt, put himself in a position to be hurt, and could have avoided it all by simply unchaining himself. Yet the fault for him being hurt is not his, it is yours.

Even though someone else is not doing the right thing, we should do the right thing. Doing the wrong thing because someone else is doing it too does not make our action less wrong.

Mind you god could just have been less of a vindictive prick in the first place and not just cause mass slaughter because some people dissed him.

No vindictiveness at all. The Jews understand the deal they agreed to.

These following words have been said in every synagogue in every land since the time of Ezra and the building of the second Temple. They are found in every Siddur. They were given to the people through Moses long before then.

Deuteronomy 11
The Blessings of Obedience
8“Therefore, be careful to obey every command I am giving you today, so you may have strength to go in and take over the land you are about to enter. 9If you obey, you will enjoy a long life in the land the Lord swore to give to your ancestors and to you, their descendants—a land flowing with milk and honey! 10For the land you are about to enter and take over is not like the land of Egypt from which you came, where you planted your seed and made irrigation ditches with your foot as in a vegetable garden. 11Rather, the land you will soon take over is a land of hills and valleys with plenty of rain— 12a land that the Lord your God cares for. He watches over it through each season of the year!
13“If you carefully obey all the commands I am giving you today, and if you love the Lord your God and serve him with all your heart and soul, 14then he will send the rains in their proper seasons—the early and late rains—so you can bring in your harvests of grain, new wine, and olive oil. 15He will give you lush pastureland for your livestock, and you yourselves will have all you want to eat.
16“But be careful. Don’t let your heart be deceived so that you turn away from the Lord and serve and worship other gods. 17If you do, the Lord’s anger will burn against you. He will shut up the sky and hold back the rain, and the ground will fail to produce its harvests. Then you will quickly die in that good land the Lord is giving you.
18“So commit yourselves wholeheartedly to these words of mine. Tie them to your hands and wear them on your forehead as reminders. 19Teach them to your children. Talk about them when you are at home and when you are on the road, when you are going to bed and when you are getting up. 20Write them on the doorposts of your house and on your gates, 21so that as long as the sky remains above the earth, you and your children may flourish in the land the Lord swore to give your ancestors.

http://nlt.scripturetext.com/deuteronomy/11.htm

 

[WelshBloke]

Hitler is the direct reason the Holacaust happened. It was his choice, and his alone. Had he not done it, someone else still would have, but the choice was made by Hitler and it is his to bare.

But if it would have happened anyway then he isn't the reason it happened. The reason it happened is that god wanted it to happen.

No vindictiveness at all. The Jews understand the deal they agreed to.

These following words have been said in every synagogue in every land since the time of Ezra and the building of the second Temple. They are found in every Siddur. They were given to the people through Moses long before then.


http://nlt.scripturetext.com/deuteronomy/11.htm

The whole do what I say and if you don't I'll punish you out of all proportion even though it's not really harming me thing sounds really really vindictive. Just because its carved into lots of buildings doesn't make it any less vindictive.

 

[DigDog]

LOL relax i was just asking. if i get the CV of some guy who's been fired from every job he's ever had, i start to wonder. surely they can't always have been the scapegoat for someone else's crimes? how many diverse religions, cultures, social groups, etc .. existed in the last two thousand years in europe? and it always has to be the jews to be hated? maybe they do something particular which causes them to be unloved.

any ideas?

 

[cybrsage]

But if it would have happened anyway then he isn't the reason it happened. The reason it happened is that god wanted it to happen.

Untrue. You will die one day. This is a known fact. So you are saying that if someone shoots you in the head then your killer is not the reason you died. This is silly.

The whole do what I say and if you don't I'll punish you out of all proportion even though it's not really harming me thing sounds really really vindictive. Just because its carved into lots of buildings doesn't make it any less vindictive.

That is because you are coloring it with your own bias and making it something it is not. You villify God to make yourself feel better about something. Rather than waste your energy blaming God, search yourself to find what is causing you to have this irrational hatred. You will feel better if you find it and deal with it instead of blaming God.

 

[cybrsage]

LOL relax i was just asking. if i get the CV of some guy who's been fired from every job he's ever had, i start to wonder. surely they can't always have been the scapegoat for someone else's crimes? how many diverse religions, cultures, social groups, etc .. existed in the last two thousand years in europe? and it always has to be the jews to be hated? maybe they do something particular which causes them to be unloved.

any ideas?

Most of the last 2000 years in Europe, the Catholic Church controlled the lands. It is easy to understand hatred when you have one group teaching everyone to hate. This was due to two reasons. The first is the one they told the masses - the Jews killed Jesus. This was eaten up by the ignorant (and the Catholic Church kept them that way) who were taught Jesus was a European and not a Jew...kinda hard to be a Christian and hate Jews since Jesus was a Jew. The second is because the Jews kept rebelling against Rome due to being told they had to stop worshipping God.

Other empires hated them because they refused to worship the leaders as gods (Rome and Babylon hated this about the Jews), others were due to a blood feud (Haman in the Medo-Persian empire). Others are due to being to the refusal to worship a made up god and the prophet of that god (Islam).

So you are placing the blame on the wrong group. You should blame those who teach others to hate someone who is simply different from them and not put the blame on those who are different.

 

[peonyu]

Most of those Africans are from Muslim Sudan and Muslim Eritrea...Why dont their Muslim brothers take them into Saudi Arabia or some other Muslim paradise instead. Afterall we are supposed to believe that Israel hates Muslims, yet they seem to be trying to infiltrate its borders for handouts as much as Mexican-illegals do in the US.

 

[klinc]

So, Israel is only for Jews eh? How is this not a racially motivated attack on innocent people? And Netanyahu looks suspiciously like a pure racist to me with the talk about the need to preserve Israel for the one true race.

I love it how you turn things. Egypt Its Arabs and Jews. Not Jews vs Black.
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Very few people know about is that the Lemba people who form part of the Venda tribe are JEWISH. No. They did not convert to Judaism after meeting some Jewish immigrants to South Africa. President Kruger found them already with their Jewish belief system going back more than two thousand years. They migrated from the Kenya or Ethiopian regions