israeli navy fires on Gaza aid flotilla

[nageov3t]

Seems that if soldiers attack an unarmed ship in international waters at night they could expect people to defend themselves.



The US police force does not attack people outside the US.



Panty wearing Rambo's? The guys with the guns were attacking the ship. The passengers defended themselves.

how many people did the Israeli's injure or kill in their "attacks" on the ships that didn't open fire on them?

 

[Casawi]

Wait, you really think that if you saw armed men rappelling out of a helicopter that you'd think it a good idea to throw shit at them? Really??

Sure if there is like 10 of them and there 100 of US? you best believe I am throwing things...in most situations, what's the worst thing that can happen?... smack me around and put hand cuffs on me...of course I am not going to be thinking I am going to get a bullet to the head if I throw this fork at a bad ass Navy Seal with a paintball gun.

 

[fallout man]

I take everything I've said thus far back, and I apologize. Israeli authorities have revealed the deadly cargo they have uncovered on the flotilla ships:

Shalom! I hope no feelings were hurt by my amateurish antisemitism!

It's widely-known in the intelligence circles that a single Pikachu backpack has enough power to disable at least 3 Merkava tanks once it goes Super-Saiyan! This has been Israel's biggest weakness, and I'm glad that the flotilla was prevented from unleashing over 9000 points of Jihad.

 

[Specop 007]

Seems that if soldiers attack an unarmed ship in international waters at night they could expect people to defend themselves.



The US police force does not attack people outside the US.



Panty wearing Rambo's? The guys with the guns were attacking the ship. The passengers defended themselves.

That same exact fucked up logic is used to when people say "But ma babee din do nuffin!" too when the news cameras are talking about the latest upstanding community member with baggy pants to get gunned down while trying to accidentally murder the police with his car.

First off, pirates dont use helicopters. So the whirlybird with the bright lights is a near guarantee to be a military aircraft. If you think its bad juju to shoot at the police, try shooting at the soldiers.

Secondly, if it were an actual attack they wouldnt have wasted time putting boots on the deck. In fact the boats would probably have been taking on water before they even heard the helicopters coming.

Thirdly, the soldiers were attacked first. Now, if *I* didnt have a gun and someone with a gun fast roped onto my ship I think I might try that whole "parley" thing.

Just a thought.

 

[Sclamoz]

Sure if there is like 10 of them and there 100 of US? you best believe I am throwing things...in most situations, what's the worst thing that can happen?... smack me around and put hand cuffs on me...of course I am not going to be thinking I am going to get a bullet to the head if I throw this fork at a bad ass Navy Seal with a paintball gun.

Go test out your assumption and tell us how it works out for you.

 

[nageov3t]

I take everything I've said thus far back, and I apologize. Israeli authorities have revealed the deadly cargo they have uncovered on the flotilla ships:

Shalom! I hope no feelings were hurt by my amateurish antisemitism!

It's widely-known in the intelligence circles that a single Pikachu backpack has enough power to disable at least 3 Merkava tanks once it goes Super-Saiyan! This has been Israel's biggest weakness, and I'm glad that the flotilla was prevented from unleashing over 9000 points of Jihad.

well, that settles it. I guess Israel should just take down the blockade and allow all ships into Gaza uninspected.

I mean, if 1 ship contains harmless materials surely every ship must, right?

 

[fallout man]

well, that settles it. I guess Israel should just take down the blockade and allow all ships into Gaza uninspected.

I mean, if 1 ship contains harmless materials surely every ship must, right?

At least 9 people died trying to bring this contraband terrorist weapon of mass destruction to Gaza.

Change your diaper, unless you're into that sort of thing... 😉

 

[Specop 007]

Sure if there is like 10 of them and there 100 of US? you best believe I am throwing things...in most situations, what's the worst thing that can happen?... smack me around and put hand cuffs on me...of course I am not going to be thinking I am going to get a bullet to the head if I throw this fork at a bad ass Navy Seal with a paintball gun.

And thats why people get shot. You might want to study escalation of force.....

While your fork is little threat the problem is your jackass friend beside you decided to push someone off the boat, who lands on the lower level. So now the friend of the soldier is thinking "Oh shit! Both of these guys want to kill me" and you both get shot.

Guilt by association. Sure YOU didnt want to really want to hurt anyone but the guy beside you did and since you were acting up too....Well.....

 

[nageov3t]

At least 9 people died trying to bring this contraband terrorist weapon of mass destruction to Gaza.

Change your diaper, unless you're into that sort of thing... 😉

0 people died on the ships that didn't open fire on Israeli military and didn't resist legal inspections of their cargo.

 

[Doboji]

BTW... why is this bigger news than when North Korea sunk a South Korean vessel? It really shouldn't be.

 

[Specop 007]

BTW... why is this bigger news than when North Korea sunk a South Korean vessel? It really shouldn't be.

You know that already. It involves Israel, which makes all the difference.

 

[Patranus]

I take everything I've said thus far back, and I apologize. Israeli authorities have revealed the deadly cargo they have uncovered on the flotilla ships:

You are such an idiot. So what if this ship only had aid on it. Israel is going to check EVERY ship for weapons. Maybe if the terrorists would stop launching rockets at Israel, Israel wouldn't have to crack down on ships that might carry weapons.

The incident was clearly a setup but anyone with 1/2 a brain cell can see right through these terrorist tactics.

 

[Patranus]

At least 9 people died trying to bring this contraband terrorist weapon of mass destruction to Gaza.

Change your diaper, unless you're into that sort of thing... 😉

At least 9 people died because of their own stupidity for not following orders and attacking Israeli soldiers.

Its akin to minorities bitching about some youth in their community being shot by police when they reach for their cell phone when the police tell them to put their hands in the air.

 

[Sclamoz]

I take everything I've said thus far back, and I apologize. Israeli authorities have revealed the deadly cargo they have uncovered on the flotilla ships:

Shalom! I hope no feelings were hurt by my amateurish antisemitism!

It's widely-known in the intelligence circles that a single Pikachu backpack has enough power to disable at least 3 Merkava tanks once it goes Super-Saiyan! This has been Israel's biggest weakness, and I'm glad that the flotilla was prevented from unleashing over 9000 points of Jihad.

Israel had the right to search the vessels cargo as it announced it was running their blockade. They resisted and attacked Israeli soldiers when they boarded, their blood is on their own hands.

Just to point this out from the US Navy Commander's Handbook on the Law of Naval operations:

Breach of blockade is the passage of a vessel or aircraft through a blockade without special entry or exit authorization from the blockading belligerent. Attempted breach of blockade occurs from the time a vessel or aircraft leaves a port or airfield with the intention of evading the blockade, and for vessels exiting the blockaded area, continues until the voyage is completed. Knowledge of the existence of the blockade is essential to the offenses of breach of blockade and attempted breach of blockade. Knowledge may be presumed once a blockade has been declared and appropriate notification provided to affected governments. It is immaterial that the vessel or aircraft is at the time of interception bound for neutral territory, if its ultimate destination is the blockaded area. There is a presumption of attempted breach of blockade where vessels or aircraft are bound for a neutral port or airfield serving as a point of transit to the blockaded area.

 

[Freshgeardude]

If only you guys knew what you were talking about. It isn't Hamas that is setting off these rockets. They are trying to prevent the rockets from being fired. It is more militant groups that are firing the rockets.

they honestly care? do they inspect any and everything crossing the borders for missiles, mortars, and other weapons?


hamas hates israel just as much, if not more than any other jihadist group. The only reason they are doing anything remotely better is because they saw how ass raped they became during operation cast lead and know they will lose control of gaza if such attack would come simply because the palestinians in gaza would feel their leaders not doing an effective job.


if rockets from mexican cartels hit US cities, do you expect the mexican government to say nothing? say sorry? put the criminals on trial?

the same thing with hamas. they are responsible for their citizen's actions. they are being picky on who they want to stop because they can indirectly cause trouble for israel and claim no responsibility.

 

[JS80]

I take everything I've said thus far back, and I apologize. Israeli authorities have revealed the deadly cargo they have uncovered on the flotilla ships:


Shalom! I hope no feelings were hurt by my amateurish antisemitism!

It's widely-known in the intelligence circles that a single Pikachu backpack has enough power to disable at least 3 Merkava tanks once it goes Super-Saiyan! This has been Israel's biggest weakness, and I'm glad that the flotilla was prevented from unleashing over 9000 points of Jihad.

Looks like supplies that will foster and grow future jew hating suicide bombers.

 

[fallout man]

You are such an idiot. So what if this ship only had aid on it.
So what if this ship only had aid on it.
this ship only had aid on it.
only had aid on it.

🙄

 

[fallout man]

Looks like supplies that will foster and grow future jew hating suicide bombers.

D'AWWWW!!!

In retrospect, it's probably a good thing those toys were confiscated. We need to exclude jew-haters, the browns, and women from voting anyway. Pretty much all the goyim are suspect. You just can't trust them. The durka-durkas, and the menses-warriors don't know shit about the real world and what really is at stake here. In some way, I think that the Saudis have got it right--at least in terms of putting the bleeders in their place.

I'm glad that the call of purity is resonating around the ME and into Zion. God is Great.

West Bank rabbi bans women from local election

The chief rabbi of a West Bank settlement has prohibited women from standing in a local community election.

Rabbi Elyakim Levanon of the Elon Moreh settlement, near Nablus, said women lacked the authority to stand for the post of local secretary.

He wrote in a community newspaper that women must only be heard through their husbands.

No women have registered for the election due to be held later on Wednesday, Israeli media reported.

The rabbi made his comments in the community's newspaper after an unidentified young woman wrote to him asking if she could run for the position of community secretary, the Israeli news website Ynet News said.
'Giving authority'

"I am a young woman and I think I have desire and energy to do things," Ynet News quoted the woman as writing to Rabbi Levanon.
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"It's not right for men to be the only ones deciding how to run the community," the letter reportedly said.

But in his weekly column, Rabbi Levanon wrote that, according to the teachings of influential rabbis, women were not allowed to apply for the position.

"The first problem is giving women authority, and being a secretary means having authority," Rabbi Levanon wrote in the community's newspaper.

"Within the family certain debates are held and when opinions are united the husband presents the family's opinion.

"This is the proper way to prevent a situation in which the woman votes one way and her husband votes another," he wrote.

He also said it was not appropriate for women to mix with men in late evening meetings of community leaders.

Women's groups have condemned the comments.

"Such talk is scandalous enough to call the rabbi for a clarification. I expect leaders of the religious public in Israel to condemn the rabbi's instruction," Nurit Tzur of the Israel Women's Lobby said .

 

[theeedude]

Looks like supplies that will foster and grow future jew hating suicide bombers.

Israel is doing a mighty fine job of that themselves.

 

[Casawi]

Go test out your assumption and tell us how it works out for you.

I am just saying... it is not the craziest thing to do, throw something at Navy seal. Now that i think of it, a friend of mine in high school, whom I have mentioned in a few posts on here actually, threw a wall plug extension ( the T style) at an undercover cop...haha The cop was going the wrong way on a one way street, he blocked him, the cop got out of the car saying something his mom and my friend grabs the first thing on his dash storage (plug) and threw it at him. Hit him right on the forehead and started bleeding slightly. Things were crazy for few minutes.. Long story short, we were sorry and went home scared and laughing at the same time...good times.

 

[Freshgeardude]

D'AWWWW!!!

ARTICLE ON RABBI BANNING WOMAN

congrats on finding an extremist.


there are extremists in every religion. no one is going to come here and tell you otherwise. the fact with the islamic religion, is that it accepts no one who is secular. either your are an extremist or not at all. obviously there arent a billion extremists, most are secular, but there are crazy muslims out there as well, and have even more stupid claims.


how about the iranian official saying women who show their skin cause earthquakes

or a 70 year old woman got 70 lashes and like 2 months in prision because she had two men in her home.

want ridiculous? go check up the islamic religion, not the jewish

 

[PJABBER]

The Turkish government is nominally secular, but recent elections have put in a mixed Islamist government. Their military is constitutionally charged with keeping the government secular and has intervened on different occasions, but they have not yet with the current government.

Which brings up the issue of just exactly who was it that the Turks allowed on the boat and that subsequently attacked the Israeli boarding party.

"Peace" activists are normally your run of the mill pussies. They talk tough and fold like a baby's wet nappy.

But jihadists and trained terrorists, well, they like to push buttons and keep the pansies in line, until it is time for them to kill some Jews...

DEBKAfile Exclusive Report June 2, 2010, 7:21 AM (GMT+02:00)

... In Jerusalem, Erdogan's (Turkey's Prime Minister - PJABBER) accusations were deemed an unfounded and unjustified assault considering the evidence that he had consorted with terrorists, including an al Qaeda offshoot, to bring Israel under pressure in support of the Palestinian extremist Hamas.

This evidence released by the IDF Monday night, June 1, described how the Turkish Marmara, the flotilla's lead vessel, had been commandeered by terrorists indirectly supported by the Ankara government's subsidy to the Turkish Insani Yardim Vakfi - IHH, which is listed by the American CIA as an al Qaeda-linked Islamist terrorist organization with bases in Turkey, Bosnia and Bulgaria.

Those passengers attested to more than a hundred members of terrorist organizations aboard acting like a quasi-military group with a command hierarchy, whose leader forced the other four or five hundred passengers to fall into line behind them. The group was split into sub-sections, each in charge of a section of the ship before and after it set sail from Istanbul. Its members were all armed with an assortment of chains, iron bars and knives as well as gas masks.

Although they appeared to hail from different terrorist organizations from various countries, they were all ordered to say they belonged to the IHH.

The group kept the ship to a strict military regiment, including round-the-clock guards in the different sections of the Marmara.

When the ship was brought to Ashdod port and the passengers removed early Tuesday, the IHH members were found without identification papers of any kind.

Either the Turkish authorities at Istanbul were instructed to let them embark aboard the Marmara without documents or they threw them overboard before the ship docked at Ashdod. Each had an envelope stuffed with thousands of dollars.

debkafile's intelligence sources disclose that, when first brought in, the Turkish terror activists refused to answer questions. By Tuesday nightfall, a few began talking and admitted to being members of IHH and its ties with al Qaeda's Balkan outfit. Throughout the interrogations, Israel intelligence was in contact with colleagues in Western services for help to identify them by means of fingerprints and other physical features.

Our counter-terror sources report that Israel must now decide whether to prosecute some of the activists, including Israeli Arabs, on board the Marmara, on charges of collaborating with an international terrorist organization.

Israel intelligence agencies too have questions to answer - principally, how they missed spotting the terrorist presence aboard the putative aid-for-Gaza convoy and let a naval force undertake the mission to divert the ships to Ashdod, without preparing them for a violent confrontation with a determined, well-organized group of violent men.

 

[PJABBER]

And from The Jerusalem Post...

June 1, 110 Tuesday 27 Sivan 3870 23:52 IST

IDF: Global Jihad on flotilla

By YAAKOV KATZ
01/06/2010

Fifty 'Mavi Marmara' passengers tied to global jihad network. Dozens of passengers who were aboard the Mavi Marmara Turkish passenger ship are suspected of having connections with global jihad-affiliated terrorist organizations, defense officials said on Tuesday, amid growing concerns that Turkish warships would accompany a future flotilla to the Gaza Strip.

According to the defense officials, the IDF has identified about 50 passengers on the ship who could have terrorist connections with global jihad-affiliated groups.

During its searches of the Mavi Marmara on Tuesday, the military also discovered a cache of bulletproof vests and night-vision goggles, as well as gas masks. On Monday morning, at least nine foreign activists were killed during the navy’s takeover of the Mavi Marmara, which was trying to break Israel’s blockade of the Gaza Strip.

The group of over 50 passengers with possible terror connections have refused to identify themselves and were not carrying passports. Many of them were carrying envelopes packed with thousands of dollars in cash.

The military is working to identify the passengers and is looking into the possibility that some of them have been involved in terror attacks. Some of them are apparently known Islamic extremists.

“This is the group that was behind the violent lynch against the naval commandos,” a defense official said. “They came on board the ship prepared and after they had trained for the expected navy takeover.”

 

[theeedude]

Really, if there were so many "Al-Qaeda" terrorists on this ship, how come Israel is letting ALL of them go? Are Israelis liars or Al-Qaeda sympathizers?

 

[ProfJohn]

^ that is all fake. We know that the Israelis probably took away their passports and IDs stating "I am a peace activist" when the took over the boat.