israeli navy fires on Gaza aid flotilla

[Noobtastic]

That video ROCKS!

:thumbsup: to every person in it, and every point they make with the lyrics.

hilarious and true.

oh noes, the left is outraged. they say nothing about the songs hamas supporters sing..."Jews are dog, kill the Jews!" but go ape shit over a parody video criticizing how the violence and hatred of these people are minimized and ignored.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCR1-jRf5HY

at least they're funny. palestinian trolls cant make anyone laugh.

 

[flavio]

That video ROCKS!

:thumbsup: to every person in it, and every point they make with the lyrics.

Mocking the dead is funny stuff.

 

[Noobtastic]

Mocking the dead is funny stuff.

mocking the deaths of jihadist is hilarious.

*Please GTFO and move to Ashdod port*

"OH MAN WE WILL END THIS BLOCKADE WITH OUR SLINGSHOTS AND METAL PIPES"

*IDF commando drops in*

"OH NOES WE ARE VICTIMS TO ISRAELI AGGRESSION, CEASE-FIRE CEASE-FIRE...ALL WE WANTED TO DO IS DELIVER AID!!111"

 

[palehorse]

Mocking dead "martyrs" is funny stuff.

fixed... and it is.

 

[Narmer]

people dumb enough to open fire on armed IDF forces deserve mocking imo

Man, throughout this thread you've lied or stretched the truth so many times that I'm starting to wander how you think people can take you seriously.

 

[flavio]

mocking the deaths of jihadist is hilarious.

They aren't jihadists. But hey we should probably get together and make some videos mocking dead Israelis if Israel is going to act like this.

 

[flavio]

*please gtfo and move to ashdod port*

"no you don't have any business telling us what do"

*idf commandos attack ship and kill people*

"oh noes we are victims of ant_semetisms wwhys all the world so racists!!!

ftfy

 

[flavio]

Mocking dead "heros" is funny stuff.

Fixed

 

[flavio]

Israels simultanious demonstrations Against Flotilla Fascism all around Israel

Some good people of Israel.

 

[Sclamoz]

They aren't jihadists. But hey we should probably get together and make some videos mocking dead Israelis if Israel is going to act like this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b3L7OV414Kk

Yeah definitely no jihadists on those boats.

 

[flavio]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b3L7OV414Kk

Yeah definitely no jihadists on those boats.

Damn, another Israeli propaganda video. I don't suppose you can find one legit news source using that video can you. I sure couldn't. Got the original source of the video? Some independent translation? Any verification that those people were on the boat? Anything?

Even if it showed exactly what it claims to show it certainly wouldn't change a thing. The actions Israel took in attacking the boat wouldn't change.

I should get some of my Jewish friends together, have them sing a song and then wright a translation that says "Let's kill the humanitarians". Then I'll put it on YouTube and claim it was the IDF.

 

[kylebisme]

Damn, another Israeli propaganda video.

Yeah, and while I'm guessing that what the video shows is real, the claim that the people "invoked killing of Jews" is a lie. In fact, while Khaybar was a battle in which both Jews and Muslims killed eachother, it concluded like this:

Muhammad met with Ibn Abi al-Huqaiq, al-Katibah and al-Watih to discuss the terms of surrender. As part of the agreement, the Jews of Khaybar were to evacuate the area, and surrender their wealth. The Muslims, would cease warfare, and not hurt any of the Jews. After the agreement some Jews approached Muhammad, with a request to continue to cultivate their fine orchards, and remain in the oasis. In return, they would give one-half of their produce to the Muslims. Muhammad accepted the proposal. He also ordered the restitution to the Jews of their holy scriptures.

I also recomend reading the rest of the Wiki article for further understading of what relevance the Battle of Khaybar would hold for members of the flottila, most notably:

On the reasons for the attack, Scottish historian William Montgomery Watt notes the presence in Khaybar of the Banu Nadir, who were inciting hostilities along with neighboring Arab tribes against Muhammad.

Which is a bit like Israel and Egypt's blockade of humanitarian aid to Gaza. And:

According to different sources, the strength of his army varied from 1,400 to 1,800 men and between 100 and 200 horses. Some Muslim women (including Umm Salama) also joined the army, in order to take care of the wounded. Compared to the Khaybarian fighting strength of 10,000, the Muslim contingent was small....

Which is somewhat comparable to the 700 people on 6 boats attempting to run the blockade of one of the most powerful military forces in the world.

So, yeah, claim that the people on the flotilla "invoked killing of Jews" is just another Israeli propaganda lie.

 

[Noobtastic]

Damn, another Israeli propaganda video. I don't suppose you can find one legit news source using that video can you. I sure couldn't. Got the original source of the video? Some independent translation? Any verification that those people were on the boat? Anything?
.

LOL! "Israel propaganda."

A clear-cut video with audio and video footage.

You continue to ask for sources, we provide them, then you go another route. Just as you dubiously said the ships had nothing but aid, when in reality they were loaded with bullet proof vests, night-vision goggles, gas masks, and ammunition dumped over board.

and the ship has links to turkish extremist and osama bin laden.

It is dubious to dismiss cold-hard facts as "israel propaganda." No wonder the Muslim world is such a fail.

Which is somewhat comparable to the 700 people on 6 boats attempting to run the blockade of one of the most powerful military forces in the world.

LOLOLOL!

How noble, a bunch of crazy lunatics on-board with even more crazier islamists screaming jews are dogs challenging a compentent military.

israel's navy is the least powerful and smallest branch of the IDF.

anyways, you continue to deny facts, and rely on the false premise that this is an aid embargo (false) and that the ships in question were delivering aid and had nothing to hide (false).

the turkish commander of the ship had the integrity to allow the Israel navy to board, even he knew the ship was loaded with phonies. eye-witness testimony from journalists, activists, "civilians" all corroborate the findings on the videos.

i just love seeing the outrage of the left over the palestinians, the most pampered people on the planet.

meanwhile, the muslim world deals another crushing blow to their victims, while the UN does nothing and eu is silent.

 

[flavio]

LOL! "Israel propaganda."

A clear-cut video with audio and video footage.

A video from user "palwatch" who's other two videos are Israel propaganda. The video shows some people (I don't know who they are) saying something in a foreign language. That's it.

Search on the words they claim they're saying and not one legit news source is claiming anything similar.

So yeah, completely useless propaganda video.

You continue to ask for sources, we provide them

NO, you don't. For example, source for this video?

Just as you dubiously said the ships had nothing but aid, when in reality they were loaded with bullet proof vests, night-vision goggles, gas masks, and ammunition dumped over board.

Prove it then! You can't.

Even your stupid propaganda site post only made the ridiculous claim "may have dumped ammo over board". So your completely lying. Not one legit news source is claiming anything similar.

If they were you would be able to prove it.

and the ship has links to turkish extremist and osama bin laden.

More bullshit propaganda.
http://mondoweiss.net/2010/06/terror-smear-against-ihh-springs-from-a-familar-source.html

Ridiculous and desperate.

It is dubious to dismiss cold-hard facts as "israel propaganda."

Give me one cold hard fact I've dismissed.

How noble, a bunch of crazy lunatics on-board with even more crazier islamists screaming jews are dogs challenging a compentent military.

More lies. A bunch of crazy lunatics in the IDF attack a humanitarian ship in international waters.

anyways, you continue to deny facts, and rely on the false premise that this is an aid embargo (false)

They certainly steal lots of aid.

and that the ships in question were delivering aid and had nothing to hide (false).

Fucking prove it then.

the turkish commander of the ship had the integrity to allow the Israel navy to board, even he knew the ship was loaded with phonies.

Umnnn....no.

eye-witness testimony from journalists, activists, "civilians" all corroborate the findings on the videos.

Yes, they all corroborate that the IDF fired on the ship, then further attacked it by dropping commandos from a helicopter, the passengers defended themselves.

i just love seeing the outrage of the left over the palestinians, the most pampered people on the planet.

Wrong.

http://mideast.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2010/06/03/what_exactly_is_the_blockade_of_gaza

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7545636.stm

http://www.amnesty.org/en/news-and-...eli-blockades-effects-palestinians-2010-06-01

while the UN does nothing and eu is silent.

Oh no, the UN and european countries are certainly speaking out against Israel's crime.

Are you one of those hasbara/megaphone people?

 

[Noobtastic]

More lies. A bunch of crazy lunatics in the IDF attack a humanitarian ship in international waters.

God you don't give up do you, even when the crazy lunatics - being the so-called "activists" on the boat - shout "Jews are dogs" and are affiliated with turkish extreimist and osama bin laden, you cannot accept reality.

And the fact that the so-called "humanitarian" ship had very little if any humanitarian aid, and what humanitarian aid it did have was so worthless hamas rejected it.

why?

because the aid was in the form of weapons, bullet proof vests (you firsted accused me of lying about this, after providing pictures you said you didn't care), night-vision goggles, and all those "aid" resources designed to improve the plight of gazans and not...say, continue war with israel.

 

[kylebisme]

Yep, more completely un-sourced claims from Viruses, many of which which have been thoroughly debunked.

 

[Nebor]

Israeli's bordered, captured and redirected another aid ship yesterday. Howcome no one's talking about that?

 

[sdifox]

Israeli's bordered, captured and redirected another aid ship yesterday. Howcome no one's talking about that?

no one died.

 

[kylebisme]

And because it's a small part of a much larger issue which is being discussed here.

 

[Sclamoz]

Photos of raid released from Turkish newspaper.

http://fotogaleri.hurriyet.com.tr/GaleriDetay.aspx?cid=36575&p=1&rid=2

 

[Noobtastic]

Yep, more completely un-sourced claims from Viruses, many of which which have been thoroughly debunked.

what claims do you dispute?

 

[flavio]

God you don't give up do you, even when the crazy lunatics - being the so-called "activists" on the boat - shout "Jews are dogs" and are affiliated with turkish extreimist and osama bin laden, you cannot accept reality.

The reality is you're lying and have zero evidence to support your claim.

http://mondoweiss.net/2010/06/terror-smear-against-ihh-springs-from-a-familar-source.html

And the fact that the so-called "humanitarian" ship had very little if any humanitarian aid, and what humanitarian aid it did have was so worthless hamas rejected it.

There was thousands of tons of aid. It was not refused because it was worthless as we've already debunked this lie of yours.

"Gaza officials have refused roughly 20 truckloads of aid confiscated from the "Freedom Flotilla," saying the goods were broken and that they would not accept goods while any flotilla activists were still detained"

http://palestinenote.com/cs/blogs/n...refuses-broken-goods-delivered-by-israel.aspx

because the aid was in the form of weapons, bullet proof vests (you firsted accused me of lying about this, after providing pictures you said you didn't care), night-vision goggles, and all those "aid" resources designed to improve the plight of gazans and not...say, continue war with israel.

Fucking prove it. You showed me a picture of bullet proof vests from a blog with zero evidence that the picture was from the ship. You given even less evidence that there was weapons or ammo on the ship.....absolutely nothing.

Quit repeating your propaganda and fucking prove the bullshit you say.

Israel free pass revoked.

Are you one of those hasbara/megaphone people? Why are you unable to answer this simple question?

 

[Attic]

This issue doesn't need to be complicated unless the objective is to obscure simple facts.

When the activists on the boat started to physcially attack the Israeli forces everything they stood for was washed away and the force used by Israel became justified.

 

[flavio]

This issue doesn't need to be complicated unless the objective is to obscure simple facts.

When the activists on the boat started to physcially attack the Israeli forces everything they stood for was washed away and the force used by Israel became justified.

Simple facts are the ship was doing nothing illegal, then Israelis fired on it, then they further attacked it by dropping commandos. The passengers defended their ship.

 

[Noobtastic]

The reality is you're lying and have zero evidence to support your claim.

http://mondoweiss.net/2010/06/terror...ar-source.html

monodweiss, lol?

why do you accuse everyone of lying?

You are the one who lies. You accuse me of lying, then when i provide sources and images you go on another tanget.

Here, I'll post the sources again:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100602/ap_on_re_eu/eu_gaza_ships_terror_ties

Turkish aid group has TIES TO FLOTILLA BOUND SHIP

Bin Laden connection:

http://www.jpost.com/MiddleEast/Article.aspx?ID=177457

night-vision goggles and bullet proof vests on-board:

http://www.jpost.com/Israel/Article.aspx?id=177342

Ammunition dump:

http://www.jpost.com/Headlines/Article.aspx?id=177475

Jews are dogs:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b3L7OV414Kk&playnext_from=TL&videos=xK7NQ6k8OUQ

Hamas rally:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCR1-jRf5HY&playnext_from=TL&videos=kCkICPKJRKk

Anymore questions?

There was thousands of tons of aid. It was not refused because it was worthless as we've already debunked this lie of yours.

"Gaza officials have refused roughly 20 truckloads of aid confiscated from the "Freedom Flotilla," saying the goods were broken and that they would not accept goods while any flotilla activists were still detained"

What good were broken? Wheel-chairs? Water tanks? Who broke what?

"Gaza officials?"

So, you're accepting the anonymous testimony of Gaza officials, that is inconsistent with the POV of the red cross.

The "20 truckloads of aid" was largely worthless.

Hamas has said it won't allow any of the aid enter Gaza, even though the IDF has it waiting at the crossing.

Tell me flavio, if Gaza is starving, why won't Hamas accept the aid?

A senior official from the office of the Coordinator of Government Activities in the Territories (COGAT) told The Jerusalem Post on Wednesday night that the trucks were waiting to go into Gaza at the Kerem Shalom border crossing, pending approval from Hamas.

“Hamas has refused to allow those trucks to go in,” the official said, “and if the aid is so urgent, my question is, why are they not allowing it into Gaza?”

The problem with "aid to gaza" is that there is no place to store it. Ordinarily, aid is deliver via the red cross into Gaza merchants. The aid boats on the other hand wanted to deliver the aid directly to the Hamas leadership and refused to cooperate with international inspectors.

We know this because the boat was loaded with non-aid materials. The only reason the activists would not allow inspection is because they had something to hide.

The argument that israel wants to end aid to Gaza is moot because israel has already collected any usuable aid but Hamas won't accept it.

So feel free to accuse me of being a lying scumbag, it won't change your amusing yet offensive knee-jerk apologism for islamist trolls.

http://mondoweiss.net/2010/06/terror-smear-against-ihh-springs-from-a-familar-source.html