Israeli diplomatic staff in Egypt narrowly averts lynch by mob

[Texashiker]

You dont think an Israeli embassy being over run by a mob in Egypt is news worthy?

No, I do not.

Jews and Arabs have been killing each for for thousands of years. So how about something new to report on?

If the news wants to report on something, lets hear more about Palestine, and how an entire culture is being exterminated.

 

[ayabe]

So how many bulldozers will be deployed today in response?

Better yet, they could just cut another 100 calories from the diet of every Palestinian kid, that'll learn 'em.

 

[Genx87]

No, I do not.

Jews and Arabs have been killing each for for thousands of years. So how about something new to report on?

If the news wants to report on something, lets hear more about Palestine, and how an entire culture is being exterminated.

Is this a joke? Since when is the litmus test for news "it has to be a new story"? And then you defy your own standard by asking more news coverage be done about Palastinians. It boggles the mind.

And you used the cliche arabs and jews have been killing themselves for thousands of years. Humans have been killing each other for thousands of years. Should we stop reporting that as well because that isnt new news?

 

[Texashiker]

Is this a joke? Since when is the litmus test for news "it has to be a new story"? And then you defy your own standard by asking more news coverage be done about Palastinians. It boggles the mind.

The only reason why this is news story, is because it happened to Jews.

When something happens to Jews, the news is all over it.

But when Jews commit crimes against other groups, nothing or very little gets reported.

I have nothing against jews, one of my good friends is jewish. I just think the media is biased.

 

[Genx87]

The only reason why this is news story, is because it happened to Jews.

When something happens to Jews, the news is all over it.

But when Jews commit crimes against other groups, nothing or very little gets reported.

I have nothing against jews, one of my good friends is jewish. I just think the media is biased.

Open up a newspaper. Plenty of stories that arent about jews being attacked in Egypt.

I dont know what world you live within. But every time an Israeli bomb or missile is sent in retaliation for a rocket from Gaza, it is reported.

And of course you dont have anything against Jews. That is why you went with the "my friend is xxx" defense lmao. As if being friends with xxx relieves you of guilt for your dislike of certain people. Or validates ones silly position.

 

[Texashiker]

And of course you dont have anything against Jews. That is why you went with the "my friend is xxx" defense lmao. As if being friends with xxx relieves you of guilt for your dislike of certain people. Or validates ones silly position.

It seems to me that anyone that speaks about about Jews are instantly classified as a Jew-hater.

I have no need to justify anything to anyone. When people start pointing fingers at Israel, other people are quick to jump to the defense of the jews.

When the Bosnian war broke out and crimes against humanity were reported, the UN jumped in to save the day. But when crimes against humanity are done against Palestine, nobody gives a crap.

So what if some lynch mob "almost" hung some jews, what about the jewish military shooting unarmed Palestinian children.

http://jonathanturley.org/2011/07/1...irl-in-2007-because-too-much-time-has-passed/

 

[-Slacker-]

I have nothing against jews, one of my good friends is jewish. I just think the media is biased.

You obviously do.

 

[EagleKeeper]

It seems to me that anyone that speaks about about Jews are instantly classified as a Jew-hater.

I have no need to justify anything to anyone. When people start pointing fingers at Israel, other people are quick to jump to the defense of the jews.

When the Bosnian war broke out and crimes against humanity were reported, the UN jumped in to save the day. But when crimes against humanity are done against Palestine, nobody gives a crap.

So what if some lynch mob "almost" hung some jews, what about the jewish military shooting unarmed Palestinian children.

http://jonathanturley.org/2011/07/1...irl-in-2007-because-too-much-time-has-passed/

Yet the UN does nothing against the Palestinians when they fire a TOW missile at a school bus full of children.

Both sides have issues; and the UN has never acted fairly.

So they (UN) are learning that it is best to keep their (UN) heads down.

 

[Craig234]

You obviously do.

No, he has something against people doing wrong to others, Jews or not.

 

[Craig234]

Yet the UN does nothing against the Palestinians when they fire a TOW missile at a school bus full of children.

Both sides have issues; and the UN has never acted fairly.

So they are learning that it is best to keep their heads down.

Keep their heads down? Like not allow new settlements? Not invade Gaza?

 

[EagleKeeper]

The UN keeps their(UN) heads down. They have been made fools of so many times previously.

 

[Texashiker]

Yet the UN does nothing against the Palestinians when they fire a TOW missile at a school bus full of children.

Good example.

With so much violence going on in the world, why is a group of people narrowly averting a lynch mob even news worthy?

 

[Infohawk]

With so much violence going on in the world, why is a group of people narrowly averting a lynch mob even news worthy?

Because Egypt just had purportedly democratic reforms. If they can't protect foreign diplomatic corps its a sign of serious problems in Egypt.

 

[EagleKeeper]

Good example.

With so much violence going on in the world, why is a group of people narrowly averting a lynch mob even news worthy?

The rules of the diplomatic game is that ALL diplomats are supposed to be off limits and the same goes with embassy property. The host country is expected to ensure the safety of embassy personnel from local populations.

Countries can pull out their embassy and or reassign services to be operated out of another country's embassy.

Physically assaulting another embassy is tantamount to a declaration of hostilities.

Iran broke those rules with the US and now Egypt has broken those rules w/ Israel.

Both incidents were after transition to a more democratic representational form of government

 

[JS80]

No, I do not.

Jews and Arabs have been killing each for for thousands of years. So how about something new to report on?

If the news wants to report on something, lets hear more about Palestine, and how an entire culture is being exterminated.

Do you know what a palestinian is? You realize they aren't a "people" or "culture"? They are just arabs, mostly Jordanians. "Palestinian" was made up so arabs can have an excuse to kill Jews and try to destroy the state of Israel.

 

[SamurAchzar]

But it is very likely the people of Egypt will quite honoring the 1980 camp David agreement. And quit doing anything to enforce the Israeli embargo of Gaza. And in fact, Egypt will probably take the view, that Gaza can act as a Buffer state between Israeli and Egypt. And the better armed that buffer state, the better for Egypt.

With each and every post you seem more delusional and detached from reality; at this point it is a true achievement. Egyptians are more scared of Hamas than than the Israelis are; Egyptians don't have the means or the domestic legitimacy to fight Hamas which turned Sinai into it's own ground together with Al Qaeda and Hizballah. Those three organizations are terrorizing the Egyptians, smuggling arms and drugs and attacking Egyptian forces.
They are a real danger to Egypt, which is why the latter requested a permission from Israel to get troops into Sinai against the Camp David agreement (Israel agreed).

Egypt wants nothing to do with Gaza, they are going to keep it under lock for the foreseeable future (unless the Muslim brotherhood takes place) and even then they know the weapons in the Gaza strip would be turned against them.

 

[woolfe9999]

It seems to me that anyone that speaks about about Jews are instantly classified as a Jew-hater.

No, not every time someone " speaks about about (sic) Jews." It's only when the criticisms are transparently false or disenguous that one begins to suspect something is going on under the surface. For example, take this incident, where you claim this is only news because it involves Jews. Honestly now, you really think it isn't going to make the news when an embassy is attacked by a violent mob and a country's entire diplomatic mission has to be sent home?

According to your logic, "Jews and Arabs killing each other" isn't news because it's been going on for a long time. That should mean that when a Palestinian is killed by the Israelis, it isn't supposed to be news, right? So we should expect the next time any such incident is brought up on this board you'll be popping in to explain that it isn't news? Yeah right. I won't hold my breath.

The fact that you conclude this was covered because it involves Jews is so boneheaded, hypocritical and frankly silly that one begins to suspect something is not quite right here.

 

[Texashiker]

Do you know what a palestinian is? You realize they aren't a "people" or "culture"? They are just arabs, mostly Jordanians. "Palestinian" was made up so arabs can have an excuse to kill Jews and try to destroy the state of Israel.

The "state of Israel" did not exist for close to 2,000 years. You can thank the Romans for that.

Who lived on that piece of land before the UN gave it to the Jews?

The rules of the diplomatic game is that ALL diplomats are supposed to be off limits and the same goes with embassy property. The host country is expected to ensure the safety of embassy personnel from local populations.

Sometimes people do not follow the rules.

A mob got together and almost hung some diplomats, and? I do not see the reason why this article even made the news.

 

[SamurAchzar]

No, I do not.

Jews and Arabs have been killing each for for thousands of years. So how about something new to report on?

If the news wants to report on something, lets hear more about Palestine, and how an entire culture is being exterminated.

Putting your gripes with Jews aside for a moment, don't you think that in the context of the "Arab Spring" and Egyptian revolution it is news worthy that they have lost control to the point foreign diplomats are attacked in their capital?

Do you even understand the meaning of diplomats being attacked, Jews or not?

That aside, what the hell is the Palestinian culture? I know a Syrian culture, a Jordanian culture, a rich and ancient Egyptian culture but what the fuck is the Palestinian culture?

 

[Texashiker]

Do you even understand the meaning of diplomats being attacked, Jews or not?

Did they not understand that the country was in the middle of a civil war?

When you put yourself in harms way, bad things are sure to happen.

I'd agree. Diplomats are just the messenger, and nobody should ever attack the messenger. In wartime or not, it's just bad taste. Nobody should ever be fighting to the death or the last man. Diplomats, Safety personal (red cross and the like), and other groups should never be targets of any violence.

In a perfect world that is the way it should be.

In a perfect world, people driving a BMW would donate to the local volunteer firefighters when there is a fund raiser. But instead, the person driving that benz and bmw leave their window rolled up and do not even give spare change.

There are lot of things in life that are not fair, and not everyone plays by the rules.

 

[brandonb]

The rules of the diplomatic game is that ALL diplomats are supposed to be off limits and the same goes with embassy property. The host country is expected to ensure the safety of embassy personnel from local populations.

Physically assaulting another embassy is tantamount to a declaration of hostilities.

I'd agree. Diplomats are just the messenger, and nobody should ever attack the messenger. In wartime or not, it's just bad taste. Nobody should ever be fighting to the death or the last man. Diplomats, Safety personal (red cross and the like), and other groups should never be targets of any violence.

 

[woolfe9999]

I'd agree. Diplomats are just the messenger, and nobody should ever attack the messenger. In wartime or not, it's just bad taste. Nobody should ever be fighting to the death or the last man. Diplomats, Safety personal (red cross and the like), and other groups should never be targets of any violence.

Right, and they almost never are. Even the most brutal dictatorships have usually followed the rule that diplomats are off limits. It is virtually sacrosanct, and serious attacks (beyond something like bottle throwing) on embassies are very unusual, which is precisely why this is news.

 

[Craig234]

Iran broke those rules with the US and now Egypt has broken those rules w/ Israel.

Both incidents were after transition to a more democratic representational form of government

Yes, Iran's youths in fury at the US protecting the Shah took the US Embassy hostage.

The US had installed a dictator to rule their country 25 years, not nearly as bad.

The US demanded the man who killed 3000 be handed over, or they'd go to war.

The Iranian youth demanded the man who killed more than that, put in place by us, be handed over or they'd take the embassy hostage. Much less justified, clearly.

 

[Craig234]

Sometimes people do not follow the rules.

A mob got together and almost hung some diplomats, and? I do not see the reason why this article even made the news.

I can just repeat what I said, I think that is a quite legitimate news story. The issue is with other news stories not being news.

It's unfortunate that the problems for Palestinians are ongoing and become 'the normal situation' so they aren't 'news'.

200 years ago, 'slave kills owner' was news, but 'million black people are enslaved' was not.

 

[Craig234]

I'd agree. Diplomats are just the messenger, and nobody should ever attack the messenger. In wartime or not, it's just bad taste. Nobody should ever be fighting to the death or the last man. Diplomats, Safety personal (red cross and the like), and other groups should never be targets of any violence.

Actually, embassies of the US and Russia have typically been quite CIA/KGB dominated, and bases from which they have denied democracy and installed dictators.

In those cases - having nothing to do with the Israeli embassy in Egypt - it's not hard to see why people might target the embassies.

It would seem to them almost like an 'Al Queda embassy' in Washington, D. C. would have seemed to us, in which the plotters were pretending to be diplomats, on 9/12/01.