Israeli air raid struck UN Observation Post

[RichardE]

Originally posted by: cirrrocco
Cool man i appreciate your candor. most people change tuines when it comes to their people, their soldiers...I wish there were more like you..but anyway back to topic..israel has comprehensive intelligence atleast on the border areas, has ofeq 1 through 5 always pointed at conflict areas and knew absolutely about the UN positions.

They already have SF crawling through the countryside and shoukd have used that arm to negate the threat from that grid..they shouldnt have bombed the area knowing fully well the presence of UN peacekeeprs. now they are not doing any favor to themselves in the UN.

Understandable, but also take into consideration it is entirely likely that Hez could feed information to Israeli informants stating supposedly "hez compunds" which are actually innocents. In this way Hez can make Israel out to be the bad guy who doesn't care. I find this scenario much more likely than the fact Israel is targeting civnilians due to the one fact the civilian casulaty is so low compared to the amount of explosives used.

 

[Lonyo]

Originally posted by: Aimster
Lebanon will rebuild and in 10-15 years it will be a beautiful country with no mullah fanatical islamic terrorist organizations.

Now while Israel is at it.. attack Iran and Syria. U.S needs to step up and use their military might and stop being afraid of losing troops.

The world will thank us in 50 years. Hell... Iran, Syria, Lebanon will thank us in 50 years.

And if WW2 had gone the other way, in the present day the world would be thanking Germany for killing all the Jews I'm sure.

 

[replicator]

They were warned repeatedly about this particular post. In war, accidents happen, but this seems more like negligence - or worse.

http://edition.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/07/25/mideast.main/index.html
"U.N. Secretary-General Kofi Annan said he was "deeply distressed" by the "apparently deliberate" strike.

"This coordinated artillery and aerial attack on a long-established and clearly marked U.N. post at Khiyam occurred despite personal assurances given to me by Prime Minister Ehud Olmert that U.N. positions would be spared Israeli fire," he said in a statement.

"Furthermore, General Alain Pelligrini, the U.N. force commander in south Lebanon, had been in repeated contact with Israeli officers throughout the day on Tuesday, stressing the need to protect that particular U.N. position from attack."

 

[smack Down]

Originally posted by: RichardE

Originally posted by: cirrrocco
i know !! so you are saying that al qaeda was justified in killing those poeple!!!..is that what you are alluding??

They were at war, so they were justified.

Same sense that Japan was justfied in attacking Pearl Harbour...another military installation.


Or that the US was justified in bombing military installations in Iraq...

So is anyone not justified? Does one just have to say war and they can be justified doing what ever they want.

Was hitler justified when he was gassing jews. He was at war.

 

[lozina]

Originally posted by: Aimster
Lebanon will rebuild and in 10-15 years it will be a beautiful country with no mullah fanatical islamic terrorist organizations.

Now while Israel is at it.. attack Iran and Syria. U.S needs to step up and use their military might and stop being afraid of losing troops.

The world will thank us in 50 years. Hell... Iran, Syria, Lebanon will thank us in 50 years.

I hope you realize you sound as barbaric and sick as those Hezbollah fanatics you mentioned previously. :thumbsdown:

 

[RichardE]

Originally posted by: smack Down

Originally posted by: RichardE

Originally posted by: cirrrocco
i know !! so you are saying that al qaeda was justified in killing those poeple!!!..is that what you are alluding??

They were at war, so they were justified.

Same sense that Japan was justfied in attacking Pearl Harbour...another military installation.


Or that the US was justified in bombing military installations in Iraq...

So is anyone not justified? Does one just have to say war and they can be justified doing what ever they want.

Was hitler justified when he was gassing jews. He was at war.

Were the Jewish people military personel? No.

Would he have been justified gassing Allied troops? Yes

You really need to get some reading comprehension Smack Down.

 

[lozina]

Originally posted by: replicator
They were warned repeatedly about this particular post. In war, accidents happen, but this seems more like negligence - or worse.

http://edition.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/07/25/mideast.main/index.html
"U.N. Secretary-General Kofi Annan said he was "deeply distressed" by the "apparently deliberate" strike.

"This coordinated artillery and aerial attack on a long-established and clearly marked U.N. post at Khiyam occurred despite personal assurances given to me by Prime Minister Ehud Olmert that U.N. positions would be spared Israeli fire," he said in a statement.

"Furthermore, General Alain Pelligrini, the U.N. force commander in south Lebanon, had been in repeated contact with Israeli officers throughout the day on Tuesday, stressing the need to protect that particular U.N. position from attack."

Wow, Kofi is actually accusing them of deliberately attacking? Wonder what led him to that conclusion... We're certainly not getting any details to support that

 

[Aimster]

Originally posted by: lozina

Originally posted by: Aimster
Lebanon will rebuild and in 10-15 years it will be a beautiful country with no mullah fanatical islamic terrorist organizations.

Now while Israel is at it.. attack Iran and Syria. U.S needs to step up and use their military might and stop being afraid of losing troops.

The world will thank us in 50 years. Hell... Iran, Syria, Lebanon will thank us in 50 years.

I hope you realize you sound as barbaric and sick as those Hezbollah fanatics you mentioned previously. :thumbsdown:

How do I sound barbaric?

Those regimes need to change. They support terrorism.

Would you rather leave Iran alone and allow them to build nuclear weapons?

How about we just leave Syria alone and allow them to continue to press their crap on Lebanon and form another Hezbollah?

The two countries I just mentioned created and supported Hezbollah. Without them Lebanon would not be dealing with this crap.

 

[smack Down]

Originally posted by: Aimster

Originally posted by: lozina

Originally posted by: Aimster
Lebanon will rebuild and in 10-15 years it will be a beautiful country with no mullah fanatical islamic terrorist organizations.

Now while Israel is at it.. attack Iran and Syria. U.S needs to step up and use their military might and stop being afraid of losing troops.

The world will thank us in 50 years. Hell... Iran, Syria, Lebanon will thank us in 50 years.

I hope you realize you sound as barbaric and sick as those Hezbollah fanatics you mentioned previously. :thumbsdown:

How do I sound barbaric?

Those regimes need to change. They support terrorism.

Would you rather leave Iran alone and allow them to build nuclear weapons?

How about we just leave Syria alone and allow them to continue to press their crap on Lebanon and form another Hezbollah?

The two countries I just mentioned created and supported Hezbollah. Without them Lebanon would not be dealing with this crap.

A regime change would be great if you could control who is the new regime which we can't do with out a constant military precences. Look how bad Iraq is turning out and we let them form an anti-americian goverment. What do you think those other countries would be like if we tried to force a pro us goverment.

 

[RichardE]

Originally posted by: smack Down

Originally posted by: Aimster

Originally posted by: lozina

Originally posted by: Aimster
Lebanon will rebuild and in 10-15 years it will be a beautiful country with no mullah fanatical islamic terrorist organizations.

Now while Israel is at it.. attack Iran and Syria. U.S needs to step up and use their military might and stop being afraid of losing troops.

The world will thank us in 50 years. Hell... Iran, Syria, Lebanon will thank us in 50 years.

I hope you realize you sound as barbaric and sick as those Hezbollah fanatics you mentioned previously. :thumbsdown:

How do I sound barbaric?

Those regimes need to change. They support terrorism.

Would you rather leave Iran alone and allow them to build nuclear weapons?

How about we just leave Syria alone and allow them to continue to press their crap on Lebanon and form another Hezbollah?

The two countries I just mentioned created and supported Hezbollah. Without them Lebanon would not be dealing with this crap.

A regime change would be great if you could control who is the new regime which we can't do with out a constant military precences. Look how bad Iraq is turning out and we let them form an anti-americian goverment. What do you think those other countries would be like if we tried to force a pro us goverment.

Just put in a puppet government.

 

[smack Down]

Originally posted by: RichardE

Originally posted by: smack Down

Originally posted by: Aimster

Originally posted by: lozina

Originally posted by: Aimster
Lebanon will rebuild and in 10-15 years it will be a beautiful country with no mullah fanatical islamic terrorist organizations.

Now while Israel is at it.. attack Iran and Syria. U.S needs to step up and use their military might and stop being afraid of losing troops.

The world will thank us in 50 years. Hell... Iran, Syria, Lebanon will thank us in 50 years.

I hope you realize you sound as barbaric and sick as those Hezbollah fanatics you mentioned previously. :thumbsdown:

How do I sound barbaric?

Those regimes need to change. They support terrorism.

Would you rather leave Iran alone and allow them to build nuclear weapons?

How about we just leave Syria alone and allow them to continue to press their crap on Lebanon and form another Hezbollah?

The two countries I just mentioned created and supported Hezbollah. Without them Lebanon would not be dealing with this crap.

A regime change would be great if you could control who is the new regime which we can't do with out a constant military precences. Look how bad Iraq is turning out and we let them form an anti-americian goverment. What do you think those other countries would be like if we tried to force a pro us goverment.

Just put in a puppet government.

Which would collasp the second US troops numbers start droping if it took that long. Are you so stupid that you forgot how the current Iran goverment came to power?

 

[blackllotus]

Originally posted by: smack Down
Which would collasp the second US troops numbers start droping if it took that long. Are you so stupid that you forgot how the current Iran goverment came to power?

Probably considering we already have forgotten about the train bombings (atleast I assume so since none of our trains are the least bit secure).

 

[smack Down]

Originally posted by: RichardE

Originally posted by: smack Down

Originally posted by: RichardE

Originally posted by: cirrrocco
i know !! so you are saying that al qaeda was justified in killing those poeple!!!..is that what you are alluding??

They were at war, so they were justified.

Same sense that Japan was justfied in attacking Pearl Harbour...another military installation.


Or that the US was justified in bombing military installations in Iraq...

So is anyone not justified? Does one just have to say war and they can be justified doing what ever they want.

Was hitler justified when he was gassing jews. He was at war.

Were the Jewish people military personel? No.

Would he have been justified gassing Allied troops? Yes

You really need to get some reading comprehension Smack Down.

Some jewish people were military, terrorist in fact, how was hitler susposed to tell the diference and why bother when you can just gas them all. What is the ratio of military to non-military at which genocide is no longer justified?

 

[smack Down]

Originally posted by: lozina

Originally posted by: replicator
They were warned repeatedly about this particular post. In war, accidents happen, but this seems more like negligence - or worse.

http://edition.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/07/25/mideast.main/index.html
"U.N. Secretary-General Kofi Annan said he was "deeply distressed" by the "apparently deliberate" strike.

"This coordinated artillery and aerial attack on a long-established and clearly marked U.N. post at Khiyam occurred despite personal assurances given to me by Prime Minister Ehud Olmert that U.N. positions would be spared Israeli fire," he said in a statement.

"Furthermore, General Alain Pelligrini, the U.N. force commander in south Lebanon, had been in repeated contact with Israeli officers throughout the day on Tuesday, stressing the need to protect that particular U.N. position from attack."

Wow, Kofi is actually accusing them of deliberately attacking? Wonder what led him to that conclusion... We're certainly not getting any details to support that

It is kind of hard to accidently bomb the same spot many times over.

 

[RichardE]

Originally posted by: smack Down

Originally posted by: RichardE

Originally posted by: smack Down

Originally posted by: RichardE

Originally posted by: cirrrocco
i know !! so you are saying that al qaeda was justified in killing those poeple!!!..is that what you are alluding??

They were at war, so they were justified.

Same sense that Japan was justfied in attacking Pearl Harbour...another military installation.


Or that the US was justified in bombing military installations in Iraq...

So is anyone not justified? Does one just have to say war and they can be justified doing what ever they want.

Was hitler justified when he was gassing jews. He was at war.

Were the Jewish people military personel? No.

Would he have been justified gassing Allied troops? Yes

You really need to get some reading comprehension Smack Down.

Some jewish people were military, terrorist in fact, how was hitler susposed to tell the diference and why bother when you can just gas them all. What is the ratio of military to non-military at which genocide is no longer justified?

Some allies were Aryan as well

Again, not sure where you are going this since it has nothing to do with the topic me and cirrocco were discussing, besides history does not matter to you, as you love to state so often. :roll:

 

[RichardE]

Originally posted by: smack Down

Originally posted by: lozina

Originally posted by: replicator
They were warned repeatedly about this particular post. In war, accidents happen, but this seems more like negligence - or worse.

http://edition.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/07/25/mideast.main/index.html
"U.N. Secretary-General Kofi Annan said he was "deeply distressed" by the "apparently deliberate" strike.

"This coordinated artillery and aerial attack on a long-established and clearly marked U.N. post at Khiyam occurred despite personal assurances given to me by Prime Minister Ehud Olmert that U.N. positions would be spared Israeli fire," he said in a statement.

"Furthermore, General Alain Pelligrini, the U.N. force commander in south Lebanon, had been in repeated contact with Israeli officers throughout the day on Tuesday, stressing the need to protect that particular U.N. position from attack."

Wow, Kofi is actually accusing them of deliberately attacking? Wonder what led him to that conclusion... We're certainly not getting any details to support that

It is kind of hard to accidently bomb the same spot many times over.

No it's not.

 

[smack Down]

Originally posted by: RichardE

Originally posted by: smack Down

Originally posted by: lozina

Originally posted by: replicator
They were warned repeatedly about this particular post. In war, accidents happen, but this seems more like negligence - or worse.

http://edition.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/07/25/mideast.main/index.html
"U.N. Secretary-General Kofi Annan said he was "deeply distressed" by the "apparently deliberate" strike.

"This coordinated artillery and aerial attack on a long-established and clearly marked U.N. post at Khiyam occurred despite personal assurances given to me by Prime Minister Ehud Olmert that U.N. positions would be spared Israeli fire," he said in a statement.

"Furthermore, General Alain Pelligrini, the U.N. force commander in south Lebanon, had been in repeated contact with Israeli officers throughout the day on Tuesday, stressing the need to protect that particular U.N. position from attack."

Wow, Kofi is actually accusing them of deliberately attacking? Wonder what led him to that conclusion... We're certainly not getting any details to support that

It is kind of hard to accidently bomb the same spot many times over.

No it's not.

Yes it is.

 

[BBond]

Originally posted by: Zebo
Darwin in Action....because the UN has this notion that warfare is like a fiqure skating competition which can be "observed" by a referee they pay frequently.

This is exactly the "excues ANYTHING" attitude towards Israel that emboldens these murderers to carry out just such heinous acts. The USA created the Israeli military monster and Israel is just simply out of control. Attacking a clearly marked UN installation is proof.

Is there ANYTHING these animals won't stoop to?

 

[RichardE]

Originally posted by: smack Down

Originally posted by: RichardE

Originally posted by: smack Down

Originally posted by: lozina

Originally posted by: replicator
They were warned repeatedly about this particular post. In war, accidents happen, but this seems more like negligence - or worse.

http://edition.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/07/25/mideast.main/index.html
"U.N. Secretary-General Kofi Annan said he was "deeply distressed" by the "apparently deliberate" strike.

"This coordinated artillery and aerial attack on a long-established and clearly marked U.N. post at Khiyam occurred despite personal assurances given to me by Prime Minister Ehud Olmert that U.N. positions would be spared Israeli fire," he said in a statement.

"Furthermore, General Alain Pelligrini, the U.N. force commander in south Lebanon, had been in repeated contact with Israeli officers throughout the day on Tuesday, stressing the need to protect that particular U.N. position from attack."

Wow, Kofi is actually accusing them of deliberately attacking? Wonder what led him to that conclusion... We're certainly not getting any details to support that

It is kind of hard to accidently bomb the same spot many times over.

No it's not.

Yes it is.

5 Jets hit one target, unload there payload. Civilans see a ton of bombs from those 5 jets.

No its not.

 

[RichardE]

Originally posted by: BBond

Originally posted by: Zebo
Darwin in Action....because the UN has this notion that warfare is like a fiqure skating competition which can be "observed" by a referee they pay frequently.

This is exactly the "excues ANYTHING" attitude towards Israel that emboldens these murderers to carry out just such heinous acts. The USA created the Israeli military monster and Israel is just simply out of control. Attacking a clearly marked UN installation is proof.

Is there ANYTHING these animals won't stoop to?

They will protect there people.

 

[smack Down]

Originally posted by: RichardE

Originally posted by: smack Down

Originally posted by: RichardE

Originally posted by: smack Down

Originally posted by: lozina

Originally posted by: replicator
They were warned repeatedly about this particular post. In war, accidents happen, but this seems more like negligence - or worse.

http://edition.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/07/25/mideast.main/index.html
"U.N. Secretary-General Kofi Annan said he was "deeply distressed" by the "apparently deliberate" strike.

"This coordinated artillery and aerial attack on a long-established and clearly marked U.N. post at Khiyam occurred despite personal assurances given to me by Prime Minister Ehud Olmert that U.N. positions would be spared Israeli fire," he said in a statement.

"Furthermore, General Alain Pelligrini, the U.N. force commander in south Lebanon, had been in repeated contact with Israeli officers throughout the day on Tuesday, stressing the need to protect that particular U.N. position from attack."

Wow, Kofi is actually accusing them of deliberately attacking? Wonder what led him to that conclusion... We're certainly not getting any details to support that

It is kind of hard to accidently bomb the same spot many times over.

No it's not.

Yes it is.

5 Jets hit one target, unload there payload. Civilans see a ton of bombs from those 5 jets.

No its not.

5 jets hit the same target because the jets where target the same target.

Yes it is.

 

[ThePresence]

For those who are already somehow convinced that Israel deliberately hit the UN post, kindly explain the motivation Israel would have to do such a blatantly stupid act?

 

[RichardE]

Originally posted by: smack Down

Originally posted by: RichardE

Originally posted by: smack Down

Originally posted by: RichardE

Originally posted by: smack Down

Originally posted by: lozina

Originally posted by: replicator
They were warned repeatedly about this particular post. In war, accidents happen, but this seems more like negligence - or worse.

http://edition.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/07/25/mideast.main/index.html
"U.N. Secretary-General Kofi Annan said he was "deeply distressed" by the "apparently deliberate" strike.

"This coordinated artillery and aerial attack on a long-established and clearly marked U.N. post at Khiyam occurred despite personal assurances given to me by Prime Minister Ehud Olmert that U.N. positions would be spared Israeli fire," he said in a statement.

"Furthermore, General Alain Pelligrini, the U.N. force commander in south Lebanon, had been in repeated contact with Israeli officers throughout the day on Tuesday, stressing the need to protect that particular U.N. position from attack."

Wow, Kofi is actually accusing them of deliberately attacking? Wonder what led him to that conclusion... We're certainly not getting any details to support that

It is kind of hard to accidently bomb the same spot many times over.

No it's not.

Yes it is.

5 Jets hit one target, unload there payload. Civilans see a ton of bombs from those 5 jets.

No its not.

5 jets hit the same target because the jets where target the same target.

Yes it is.

You just proved my point on how easy it is 😕 did you forget your coffee today?

 

[smack Down]

Originally posted by: RichardE

Originally posted by: smack Down

Originally posted by: RichardE

Originally posted by: smack Down

Originally posted by: RichardE

Originally posted by: smack Down

Originally posted by: lozina

Originally posted by: replicator
They were warned repeatedly about this particular post. In war, accidents happen, but this seems more like negligence - or worse.

http://edition.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/07/25/mideast.main/index.html
"U.N. Secretary-General Kofi Annan said he was "deeply distressed" by the "apparently deliberate" strike.

"This coordinated artillery and aerial attack on a long-established and clearly marked U.N. post at Khiyam occurred despite personal assurances given to me by Prime Minister Ehud Olmert that U.N. positions would be spared Israeli fire," he said in a statement.

"Furthermore, General Alain Pelligrini, the U.N. force commander in south Lebanon, had been in repeated contact with Israeli officers throughout the day on Tuesday, stressing the need to protect that particular U.N. position from attack."

Wow, Kofi is actually accusing them of deliberately attacking? Wonder what led him to that conclusion... We're certainly not getting any details to support that

It is kind of hard to accidently bomb the same spot many times over.

No it's not.

Yes it is.

5 Jets hit one target, unload there payload. Civilans see a ton of bombs from those 5 jets.

No its not.

5 jets hit the same target because the jets where target the same target.

Yes it is.

You just proved my point on how easy it is 😕 did you forget your coffee today?

If they hit there target it wasn't accidential.

 

[RichardE]

Originally posted by: smack Down

Originally posted by: RichardE

Originally posted by: smack Down

Originally posted by: RichardE

Originally posted by: smack Down

Originally posted by: RichardE

Originally posted by: smack Down

Originally posted by: lozina

Originally posted by: replicator
They were warned repeatedly about this particular post. In war, accidents happen, but this seems more like negligence - or worse.

http://edition.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/07/25/mideast.main/index.html
"U.N. Secretary-General Kofi Annan said he was "deeply distressed" by the "apparently deliberate" strike.

"This coordinated artillery and aerial attack on a long-established and clearly marked U.N. post at Khiyam occurred despite personal assurances given to me by Prime Minister Ehud Olmert that U.N. positions would be spared Israeli fire," he said in a statement.

"Furthermore, General Alain Pelligrini, the U.N. force commander in south Lebanon, had been in repeated contact with Israeli officers throughout the day on Tuesday, stressing the need to protect that particular U.N. position from attack."

Wow, Kofi is actually accusing them of deliberately attacking? Wonder what led him to that conclusion... We're certainly not getting any details to support that

It is kind of hard to accidently bomb the same spot many times over.

No it's not.

Yes it is.

5 Jets hit one target, unload there payload. Civilans see a ton of bombs from those 5 jets.

No its not.

5 jets hit the same target because the jets where target the same target.

Yes it is.

You just proved my point on how easy it is 😕 did you forget your coffee today?

If they hit there target it wasn't accidential.

So now you change your argument? 😕 I am just going to put it off to maybe lack of sleep or a long day, today you are really off of it.