Israel: We Are At War

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amenx

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Never mind that Qatar is a major strategic ally of the US where Udeid Air Base houses US forward HQ of CENTCOM. The US will zip its mouth tight as if nothing happened.

Plus Israels real purpose here appears to be kill any negotiations to end the Gaza conflict and that Qatar was serving as intermediary between Israel and Hamas. Last on this was that Hamas had accepted the latest US proposed agreement.
 

pauldun170

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Netanyahu does want to end the gaza conflict. He wants to end it permanently.

Ceasefire, agreements, pauses...
None of these are going to end the gaza conflict.

Hamas and families of hamas members removal from the planet is step one.
Removal of hamas supporters and removal of families of hamas supporters step 1.5.
Demolishing the homes of all involved.

As for judging those who support hamas, you have direct supporters and indirect supporters.
Direct supporters are obviously to be removed.
Indirect supporters are judge based on criteria that is fluid and follows something something something where proximity is a general criteria that sets the supporter flag to true.
So if they live in an area of hamas members and have taken no action to kill those hamas members then they will be assumed indirect supporters.

Once hamas and its supporters are eliminated. Gaza will be at peace.
Those that remain will then be temporary relocated so that the area can be rebuilt and subsequently renamed.

After completion, those people will be welcomed back to Gaza.
Where ever a place with that name exists (see part about renaming territory).

Also there is no such thing as Palestinians and how come no one wants to talk about starving children in the sudan?
 

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Hamas is the best thing that happened to Israels main goal for a Greater Israel. It gives them cover to permanently ethnically cleanse Gaza and the West Bank soon after. N'yahu and his fascist coalition could not have wished for a better pretext than Oct 7 to set their plan in motion.
 
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Hamas is the best thing that happened to Israels main goal for a Greater Israel. It gives them cover to permanently ethnically cleanse Gaza and the West Bank soon after. N'yahu and his fascist coalition could not have wished for a better pretext than Oct 7 to set their plan in motion.
The terrorist attack committed by 2 palestinians in Jerusalem resulted in this

In a statement, Defence Minister Israel Katz said he had ordered sanctions to be imposed on the attackers' family members and residents of the two villages.
Every structure that had been built without permits in the two towns would be demolished, and 750 people would have their permission revoked to work in Israel, the main source of income for many Palestinian families.
Israel says demolishing the homes of relatives of attackers and their fellow villagers is a deterrent to future attack
 

KMFJD

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Daniel Raab shows no hesitation as he watches footage of 19-year-old Salem Doghmosh crumpling to the ground beside his brother in a street in northern Gaza.

“That was my first elimination,” he says. The video, shot by a drone, lasts just a few seconds. The Palestinian teenager appears to be unarmed when he is shot in the head.


Raab, a former varsity basketball player from a Chicago suburb who became an Israeli sniper, concedes he knew that. He says he shot Salem simply because he tried to retrieve the body of his beloved older brother Mohammed.

“It’s hard for me to understand why he [did that] and it also doesn’t really interest me,” Raab says in a video interview posted on X. “I mean, what was so important about that corpse?”

“They’re thinking: ‘Oh I don’t think [I’ll get shot] because I’m wearing civilian clothes and I am not carrying a weapon and all that, but they were wrong,” said Raab, who majored in biology at the University of Illinois before joining the Israel Defense Forces. “That’s what you have snipers for.”

After Salem was shot, his father, Montasser, 51, rushed to the site, and tried to collect his sons’ bodies for burial, but was also fatally injured by a sniper.

fucking nazis
 

hal2kilo

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So if I understand what happened the US authorized a IAF incursion into Qatari airspace to bomb Hamas officials in an apparently failed assassination attempt, all without the knowledge and assent of the Qatari government. Just a swell job here.
I hope they still have his jet in possession. Be a shame to lose that gift.
 

amenx

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All this does is make the US look subservient to Israel. That Israel can do whatever it wants regardless of US wishes or interests in the region. Including blowing up the negotiators and scuttling any potential end to the conflict. Something future negotiators will have to keep in mind.. that their lives are marked in the same way journalists and aid workers lives are.
 

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All this does is make the US look subservient to Israel. That Israel can do whatever it wants regardless of US wishes or interests in the region. Including blowing up the negotiators and scuttling any potential end to the conflict. Something future negotiators will have to keep in mind.. that their lives are marked in the same way journalists and aid workers lives are.
The US "IS" subservient to Israel .
 

KMFJD

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Daniel Raab shows no hesitation as he watches footage of 19-year-old Salem Doghmosh crumpling to the ground beside his brother in a street in northern Gaza.

“That was my first elimination,” he says. The video, shot by a drone, lasts just a few seconds. The Palestinian teenager appears to be unarmed when he is shot in the head.


Raab, a former varsity basketball player from a Chicago suburb who became an Israeli sniper, concedes he knew that. He says he shot Salem simply because he tried to retrieve the body of his beloved older brother Mohammed.

“It’s hard for me to understand why he [did that] and it also doesn’t really interest me,” Raab says in a video interview posted on X. “I mean, what was so important about that corpse?”

“They’re thinking: ‘Oh I don’t think [I’ll get shot] because I’m wearing civilian clothes and I am not carrying a weapon and all that, but they were wrong,” said Raab, who majored in biology at the University of Illinois before joining the Israel Defense Forces. “That’s what you have snipers for.”

After Salem was shot, his father, Montasser, 51, rushed to the site, and tried to collect his sons’ bodies for burial, but was also fatally injured by a sniper.

fucking nazis
jfc, these sick fucks even have a non profit charity for this shit


A U.S. nonprofit has raised hundreds of thousands of dollars for an Israeli sniper unit for the stated purpose of buying scopes, silencers, and other equipment. The unit, which is nicknamed Rephaim, or “Ghosts,” has since been implicated in possible war crimes and killing over 100 people in Gaza and has been tied to the killing of four unarmed Palestinians in Gaza since October 7, 2023.

"In its 990 filings, Friends of Paratrooper Sniper Unit 202 is described as “an organization dedicated to catering to the additional requirements and the overall welfare of soldiers serving in a specific military unit.”
 
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jfc, these sick fucks even have a non profit charity for this shit


A U.S. nonprofit has raised hundreds of thousands of dollars for an Israeli sniper unit for the stated purpose of buying scopes, silencers, and other equipment. The unit, which is nicknamed Rephaim, or “Ghosts,” has since been implicated in possible war crimes and killing over 100 people in Gaza and has been tied to the killing of four unarmed Palestinians in Gaza since October 7, 2023.

"In its 990 filings, Friends of Paratrooper Sniper Unit 202 is described as “an organization dedicated to catering to the additional requirements and the overall welfare of soldiers serving in a specific military unit.”
Probably the Kars for Kids folks.


The children’s programs Kars4Kids donates to have also been called into question. Their radio and TV ads, as well as their billboards, neglect to mention the religious purpose of its charity—that its proceeds go to benefit Jewish education, specifically, as the NBC report indicates, day camps that promote education of non-observant Jewish kids on Orthodox Judaism. In 2009, Oorah was forced to pay $130,000 in fines for failing to mention that. Kars4Kids’ website does currently state their religious connection and if you look closely, you can even see that their cartoon mascot—a bespectacled boy with an adorable dog—now wears a yarmulke. The boy, that is, not the dog.

Conservative Fox News anchor Bill O’Reilly even devoted a segment to Kars4Kids’s finances on his show, noting that the song “drives him nuts,” indicating that he may be human after all.
 
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amenx

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Venice film festival seems to have set the ball rolling..

WASHINGTON, Sept 8 (Reuters) - Over 1,800 actors, entertainers, and producers, including some Hollywood stars, signed a pledge released on Monday, opens new tab to not work with Israeli film institutions that they see as being complicit in the abuse of Palestinians by Israel...

It noted last year's International Court of Justice opinion that Israel's occupation of Palestinian territories is illegal and assessments by multiple rights experts and scholars that Israel's military assault on Gaza amounts to genocide.
Signatories included actors Olivia Colman, Emma Stone, Mark Ruffalo, Tilda Swinton, Riz Ahmed, Javier Bardem, and Cynthia Nixon, among others...

 
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interesting viewpoint out of Yemen, meanwhile over in Egypt, they also uncovered a plot to kill Hamas leaders, they are not happy and issued a stern letter as well



¬“Any attempt on the lives of Hamas leaders on Egyptian soil would be considered by Egypt as a violation of its sovereignty and, accordingly, a declaration of war by Israel, which we would not hesitate to retaliate against,” the security source said.
 
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¬“Any attempt on the lives of Hamas leaders on Egyptian soil would be considered by Egypt as a violation of its sovereignty and, accordingly, a declaration of war by Israel, which we would not hesitate to retaliate against,” the security source said.
I mean... that checks out. Egypt would be well within its rights to respond to an act of war committed against its people in its own soil.
Turkey would be within their rights to aid Egypt.
 

hal2kilo

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interesting viewpoint out of Yemen, meanwhile over in Egypt, they also uncovered a plot to kill Hamas leaders, they are not happy and issued a stern letter as well



¬“Any attempt on the lives of Hamas leaders on Egyptian soil would be considered by Egypt as a violation of its sovereignty and, accordingly, a declaration of war by Israel, which we would not hesitate to retaliate against,” the security source said.
Tribes!
 

pauldun170

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I was today years old when I learned that the reason Hamas had a political.office in Qatar is because the US requested Qatar set it up so that the US could facilitate indirect talks.

Also found some hilarious older article of Netenyahu complaining about Qatar funding hamas when he was the one involved with the payment scheme behind the scenes.
Guess what was discussed in that qatar office?

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