Israel: We Are At War

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mikeymikec

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The part that is cut out says -

I can only imagine how Florida’s 6th district feels now that their Representative, that they were told to vote for, openly calls for starving innocent people and children. It’s the most truthful and easiest thing to say that Oct 7th in Israel was horrific and all hostages must be returned, but so is the genocide, humanitarian crisis, and starvation happening in Gaza.But a Jewish U.S. Representative calling for the continued starvation of innocent people and children is disgraceful.His awful statement will actually cause more antisemitism.


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It's just more disingenuous bullshit: MTG's and AIPAC's position has only slightly changed because the optics of skeletal babies on TV looks bad. The starvation of Gaza has been going on for many months and they were totally cool with it during that time. The official Israel quandary is going to be how to continue genociding but with fewer pictures of skeletal Palestinians in the news. Part of their conclusion will no doubt be to increase the killing of journalists.

I personally bet that her "opinion" was written by AIPAC. Who would trust the Jewish Space Laser Lady to come up with a nuanced position?

It must suck to be Randy Fine though: one minute you thought you were among genocide-cheering friends, the next they're acting like they weren't.
 
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This really got my goat. In a WW2 context it would be like threatening Hitler that if he doesn't stop exterminating the Jews, we might have to actually recognise them as real people, but if he calls a ceasefire then we won't have to resort to tactics like that.

I don't often use terms like "virtue signalling", but threatening to recognise Palestine as a state if Israel doesn't cool it a bit sounds an awful lot like disingenuous bullshit.

It does seem a very odd approach. Surely, either recognising a Palestinian state is the right thing to do or it isn't. If it is, then how can it be employed as a threat, made conditional on what Israel does?
 
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kage69

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"Uncommitted" protest voters who ditched Biden last November over Gaza must feel like complete shitheads right now. Providing they have more self awareness than magats I mean.

Full occupation it is.

"The Prime Minister's Office conveyed the message to IDF Chief of Staff Lt.-Gen. Eyal Zamir: If this does not suit you, then you should resign."
 

RnR_au

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Full occupation it is.

"The Prime Minister's Office conveyed the message to IDF Chief of Staff Lt.-Gen. Eyal Zamir: If this does not suit you, then you should resign."
Can't have a two state solution if its all 'owned' by Israel :disappointed:

It would also entrench a resistance movement amongst the Palestinian people which would play into Netanyahu hands. Best way to remain PM for life is an eternal 'war'.
 

blankslate

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please Kamala had a chance to put sunlight between her and Biden but she did not take it.

the fact is Biden had his chance to be much better than Trump on the issue of Gaza but his refusal to do it or rather his handlers taking advantage of his senile ass and not doing it gave Trump an issue he could lie about and really not have to worry about it.

The fact is the establishment leaders of either party couldn't be bothered to GAFF about everything that Netanyahu was doing or the opinions polls that indicated more Israeli citizens than not were comfortable with Netanyahu engaging in Atrocities.

We are complicit and our leaders from both parties have made us so.

If Putin was doing what Netanyahu was doing on a proportional scale meaning killing millions of civilians by carpet bombing living areas of cities many people here would be calling for nuking Russia



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Chris Smalls was separated from the rest of the crew of the ship and subject to more abuse... I can't seem to figure out why... perhaps the IDF has a more in common with some eastern European groups that it's inconvenient for some here to admit existed and were often written about in mainstream media prior to 2022...

Also this...

the former Army Green Beret officer who chose to be a whistle blower has his side of the story given more evidence than his detractors... who are imho SCUM


People need to stop acting like it's only one party whose gonad gargling of Netanyahu allowed the Mass Murder Atrocities to escalate to a purposeful starvation crisis in Gaza.
if that doesn't apply to you it's not meant for you... if you think I am talking at you maybe you should rethink the issue and realize neither major U.S. party has clean hands in this situation...



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amenx

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So many countries face this threat, esp the main ones (US, UK, Germany, etc), but the Dutch appear to be the first to articulate it.

Dutch intelligence flags Israel as foreign influence threat


National security report in the Netherlands has, for the first time, identified Israel as a foreign threat, citing alleged disinformation campaigns and attempts to influence Dutch politics; The assessment follows rising tensions over Gaza and growing criticism of Israeli policy in Europe...

 

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All those who thought Tik Tok's ties to China were the reason the US wanted it banned or under US control are really out of touch.

TikTok's new hate speech manager is former IDF soldier and proud Zionist​

TikTok has hired a “proud” American Jewish former IDF soldier – Erica Mindel – as its new hate speech manager.

Mindel’s LinkedIn profile shows she entered the position of Public Policy Manager, Hate Speech in July. The position involves developing and driving the company’s positions on hate speech, according to the job description...


Meaning anti-genocide advocates or voices protesting Zionism and Israeli war crimes may lose their voice on the platform.
 
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Look at the clip of netanbastard proudly boasting about how any israeli boycott will backfire. These people are so arrogant because the world allows them to be. This is the single most troublemaking nation in the world, even worse than russia, china and north korea.
 
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amenx

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Insane story yesterday must have freaked out Zio-lobbyists when they figured how damaging it could be to their cause. Of course it was re-worded by the DHS/FEMA to appear slightly less outrageous hours later...

Israeli Boycott Stance To Affect $1.9 Billion In State And Local Disaster Funds

WASHINGTON, Aug 4 (Reuters) — U.S. states and cities that boycott Israeli companies will be denied federal aid for natural disaster preparedness, the Trump administration has announced, tying routine federal funding to its political stance.
The Federal Emergency Management Agency stated in grant notices posted on Friday that states must follow its “terms and conditions.” Those conditions require they certify they will not sever “commercial relations specifically with Israeli companies” to qualify for funding...


And the reversal...

WASHINGTON, Aug 4 (Reuters) - The Trump administration on Monday reversed course on requiring U.S. cities and states to rebuke boycotts of Israeli companies in order to receive disaster funds, according to a statement, and deleted the earlier policy from its website...

I guess the Zios figured how bad it would look for them when despairing ppl in forest fires or hurricanes are denied aid because of their states position on Israel. And so told Trump to reverse course.
 
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amenx

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Mayor of Athens (Greece, not Georgia), Haris Doukas railed against Israeli ambassador for complaining about anti-Israeli graffiti in Athens (which was later removed) when his country was in the midst of carrying out a genocide.


Athens Mayor Haris Doukas told Israel’s Ambassador to Greece Noam Katz that his city “will not accept lectures on democracy from those who kill civilians.”

“Athens, the capital of a democratic country, fully respects its visitors and supports its citizens’ right to free expression,” Doukas said.

“We have consistently demonstrated our active opposition to violence and racism. We will not accept lectures on democracy from those who kill civilians and children waiting in line for food aid, from those responsible for the daily deaths of dozens of people in Gaza due to bombings, hunger, and thirst."

Doukas said it was “appalling” that Katz focused solely on the graffiti “at a time when an unprecedented genocide is unfolding in Gaza.”

 

amenx

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Good interview with Max Blumenthal. He says in earlier negotiations with Hamas, and where they showed footage of emaciated Israeli hostages (10 remaining, all soldiers), they offered to let the Red Cross access to them and to feed them in exchange for allowing aid into Gaza for the starving civilians. Israel refused. He believes Netanyahu prefers the hostages to die so Hamas will have no more leverage with the Israelis.

 
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