Israel: We Are At War

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KMFJD

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MrSquished said:
Well said. I mean the Israelis are literally on video being genocidal lunatics. They have been lying and gaslighting with Western support, for decades now, establishing a permanent terrorist state apartheid solution to their Palestinian problem which is a nuisance to them, They just want their holy land.

Shit the Palestinians didn't accept whatever the west offered them after using the worst of colonialism to resettle a European problem, the Jews, and using fundamentalist religious doctrine to justify it.

Who would have thought there might be problems. Again everywhere it would have problems, but this is a perfect example of the west creating problems, and then exacerbating them for decades, with the willing and able and now powerful Zionist religious fundamentalists.

They have become good Nazis themselves the Jews of Israel who support this. It didn't take that long, The human condition is quite something isn't it.
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The South Africans should have been happy to live in their bantustans according to some here
 
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The problem with posts showing Hezbollah attacks vs Israeli base does NOT establish the chain of events, attacks or counterattacks that have been occurring just before. Furthermore, the irony that Hezb was targeting a military base while the Israelis often target civilian areas.

www.thenationalnews.com

Hundreds of hectares of Lebanon's farmland destroyed by Israeli white phosphorus | The National

Officials and NGOs have denounced what appears to be a deliberate strategy to devastate land
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amenx said:
The problem with posts showing Hezbollah attacks vs Israeli base does NOT establish the chain of events, attacks or counterattacks that have been occurring just before. Furthermore, the irony that Hezb was targeting a military base while the Israelis often target civilian areas.

www.thenationalnews.com

Hundreds of hectares of Lebanon's farmland destroyed by Israeli white phosphorus | The National

Officials and NGOs have denounced what appears to be a deliberate strategy to devastate land
www.thenationalnews.com www.thenationalnews.com
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Still targeting civilian reporters as well, they just can't help themselves...

https://twitter.com/x/status/1726908082431672736
 
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amenx said:
The problem with posts showing Hezbollah attacks vs Israeli base does NOT establish the chain of events, attacks or counterattacks that have been occurring just before. Furthermore, the irony that Hezb was targeting a military base while the Israelis often target civilian areas.
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It's like that annoying and cunning fat kid in school who keeps slapping you over and over until you slap back and then he's like, "TEACHER! TEACHER! This kid slapped me!", totally forgetting what a bitch he was being just seconds before. Israel is a bully. Always has been. They are cowards who hide behind the Holocaust. Who is to say that the powerful people behind the Israeli govt aren't descended from dangerous A-holes who orchestrated the suffering of Jews? Always remember, the most powerful people never show their faces. They hide in the shadows and behind mere puppets who take the blame and the fall. The real evil people just keep living and continuing their evil legacy.
 
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The Israeli government voted to approve a hostage exchange with Hamas, the government said in a statement early Wednesday local time. At least 50 women and children hostages will be released over four days, the statement said, during which there will be a pause in fighting. Before the deal was approved, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said “the war will continue” even after a deal. Hamas said on Telegram that it had agreed to a “humanitarian truce,” thanking Qatar and Egypt for their efforts in helping to broker the deal. The exchange will involve the release of 150 women and children from Israeli prisons, Hamas said. Qatar later confirmed the deal, saying the starting time of the pause will be announced within the next 24 hours.
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Under the terms of the deal, Israel will cease military activity “in all regions of the Gaza Strip” and “hundreds of trucks for humanitarian, relief, medical and fuel aid” will be allowed in, Hamas said.
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I don't care what side of this conflict your on, we all can agree hundreds of trucks of humanitarian, relief, medical, and fuel aid is a good thing.
 
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The pause will be extended an extra day for the release of every 10 additional hostages, Israel said, adding that its forces will resume the war afterward.
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240 - 50 for 4 days = 190 left
10 per day = 19 days

We could see a pause for 23 days.
That would be absolutely wonderful.
Twenty three days would give time to reveal the Palestinian death count is far higher then being stated.
Twenty three days would give everyone time to look in the mirror and ask what they are doing.
Twenty three days to trace the links from Qatar to Gaza to Iran to Syria to underground networks in Egypt. All that communication has to happen once that border crossing opens.
 
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Leeea said:

240 - 50 for 4 days = 190 left
10 per day = 19 days

We could see a pause for 23 days.
That would be absolutely wonderful.
Twenty three days would give time to reveal the Palestinian death count is far higher then being stated.
Twenty three days would give everyone time to look in the mirror and ask what they are doing.
Twenty three days to trace the links from Qatar to Gaza to Iran to Syria to underground networks in Egypt. All that communication has to happen once that border crossing opens.
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The current deal is up-to ten days, only for children and women.
 
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linkgoron said:
The current deal is up-to ten days, only for children and women.
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www.cbsnews.com

Israeli government approves Hamas hostage deal, short-term cease-fire in Gaza

The Israeli government said early Wednesday that it had approved a deal that would see 50 hostages held in Gaza released and a 4-day cease-fire observed.
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"The Government of Israel is obligated to return home all of the hostages. Tonight, the Government has approved the outline of the first stage of achieving this goal, according to which at least 50 hostages — women and children — will be released over four days, during which a pause in the fighting will be held," the statement said, adding that "the release of every additional ten hostages will result in one additional day in the pause."
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as far as I can tell it is as long as Hamas is willing to play ball.
 
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Leeea said:
www.cbsnews.com

Israeli government approves Hamas hostage deal, short-term cease-fire in Gaza

The Israeli government said early Wednesday that it had approved a deal that would see 50 hostages held in Gaza released and a 4-day cease-fire observed.
www.cbsnews.com www.cbsnews.com

its in Hamas court court.
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It's not that simple and not true. I'm not sure what Israel will do with the men. Currently, Israel was willing to release only women and children "with no blood on their hands" (aka they did not manage to murder Israeli although might have attempted to). There's a list of 300 candidate women and children that can be released by Israel, of which the actual number to be released will depend on how many Hamas will free (which, from what I gather, is thought to be around 80). With the men, a different deal will have to be brokered. Hamas will want a larger ratio (e.g. 1:10 vs. the current 1:3, and probably will want people who actually murdered Israelis).
 
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Couldnt resist posting this interview with porn star Mia Khalifa who has more insight, knowledge and INTEGRITY than any US politico who sells his ass and country to the I lobby. She has been hounded for her views on the conflict but she stood firm regardless.

 
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KMFJD said:
Meanwhile on the northern border, things appear to be escalating again


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Okay, stupid question perhaps - but how is one randomly 'martyred' like that? For Christians, one is a martyr when killed for refusing to deny Christ or being butchered precisely for being a Christian if not given the choice. Seems like this guy was killed for being part of a paramilitary group, not because he’s Muslim.
 
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Ajay said:
Okay, stupid question perhaps - but how is one randomly 'martyred' like that? For Christians, one is a martyr when killed for refusing to deny Christ or being butchered precisely for being a Christian if not given the choice. Seems like this guy was killed for being part of a paramilitary group, not because he’s Muslim.
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If i remember correctly (and i very well might have it wrong) but the Palestinians call all those killed in the struggle for a free Palestine 'Martyrs'
 
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What a study of the human condition to see a people oppressed not much more than a half-century ago, turn around and their government has helped create decades of oppression via an apartheid state and now as much genocide as the international community will take.

I respect all Jews who realize the evil of their government, and there are plenty of them and the fact that criticism of zionist extremism and the reign of Israeli terrorism for so long is now automatically considered anti-Semitism is just fucking nuts. Absolutely disgusting. From being the victims of monsters to now being the monsters via this Zionist movement, on such a level, in such a relatively short amount of time.
 
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