Israel: We Are At War

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VRAMdemon

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Indeed. Tactical nukes are not off the table. Insane. I bet Putin is also salivating at this.

But Kamala Harris would have caused World War III.

In two weeks on the Apprentice President....He is timing his decision to coincide with July 4. Trump still thinks he's doing a reality TV show. What a cliff hanger!:rolleyes: You just cannot believe anything that Trump or his spokespersons say. It may be true and it may not. You just don't know.

If it gets to boots on the ground. Trump supporters up front. This is what you voted for. Get your butts out there on the front line. This is your calling. No women. No People of color. Straight white married conservative men. This isn't DEI. This is your time to shine bro. It's now your job to be proud boys.
 

cytg111

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Indeed. Tactical nukes are not off the table. Insane. I bet Putin is also salivating at this.
I dont know, Russia and Iran be pretty tight, it would be a loss for RU with a levelled Iran + no more drones.

A nuke in Iran does not greenlight a nuke in Ukraine.

If anything I feel like if anyone can talk the Orange Moron down it's probably Putin. Ironically as it may be and for self serving purposes all around.
 

Artorias

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Practically speaking, absolutely nothing.
But... fear of Pandora's Box, possibly.

Also, thought I heard a long time ago that nuclear weapons have a certain radiation signature depending on who refined it. And we'd know it was a Russian bomb?
I could be totally wrong about that.

"In a twist of events this past year, Putin's donation of nuclear weapons to Iran has brought peace and prosperity to the middle east. What was once a battle ground of religious ideologies, is now a safe haven for worshippers of all faiths. Mutually assured destruction is what kept the WW3 from happening for over 80 years, with our gift Russia has prevented the death of countless millions. Putin said today during his noble peace prize speech"

In all seriousness, this whole situation would be different if the playing field was level.
 

cytg111

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This is fucking wild.

Now Tucker is on a mission from Vladimir Putin to save Iran and badmouth Israel and such in turn weaken America, all that stays the same... But listen to this congressman tell a story on aipac... God Damn

 

Josh128

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Indeed. Tactical nukes are not off the table. Insane. I bet Putin is also salivating at this.

This is complete and utter bullshit, Im sorry lol. Israel basically squashed Iran already with a few strategic airstrikes, and I have zero doubt they could have taken out the Ayatollah from the get go if they chose to, but the US is considering "tactical nukes" as a first strike? Get the hell out of here with that nonsense, lol. Iran doesnt even have proper air defenses anymore, nukes are not even remotely being considered.
 

Josh128

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I never said they would. I only said you don't shoot down MRBMs with $50K missiles.

Such a weird little man.
Whatever you say, big boy. That doesnt change the fact that Laura is a Nazi bitch with bullhorn that is apparently in dire need of schlong to help calm her ass down.

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^^^ Yup. The greatest sham in history. A whole nation of cowards using the Holocaust as a shield to fool a much bigger nation into financially supporting their illegal land grab efforts.
 
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Jaskalas

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"In a twist of events this past year, Putin's donation of nuclear weapons to Iran has brought peace and prosperity to the middle east. What was once a battle ground of religious ideologies, is now a safe haven for worshippers of all faiths. Mutually assured destruction is what kept the WW3 from happening for over 80 years, with our gift Russia has prevented the death of countless millions. Putin said today during his noble peace prize speech"

In all seriousness, this whole situation would be different if the playing field was level.
That positive outcome assumes humans are rational actors.
Spoiler alert, we are actually far from it.

Not nuking the world has merely been a happy accident up to this point. Some day it IS going to happen. More countries have it, more likely it becomes.
 
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[DHT]Osiris

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These clowns can't even get their fucking stories straight.
So here's the thing, it's probably accurate. The drum beat of 'weeks away from a nuclear weapon' is literally accurate for any nation that has the ability to enrich uranium, including for peaceful purposes. Which naturally means they had no intent on building a bomb, that was just gaslighting to authorize an invasion.
 

K1052

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So here's the thing, it's probably accurate. The drum beat of 'weeks away from a nuclear weapon' is literally accurate for any nation that has the ability to enrich uranium, including for peaceful purposes. Which naturally means they had no intent on building a bomb, that was just gaslighting to authorize an invasion.

The intel that is known says the bomb program itself was still dormant as the Iranians claimed. What they have been doing is furthering their enrichment program with newer/better centrifuges that can separate more quickly and conceivably produce weapons grade materials rapidly. I think it is almost certain that Tehran has enriched past 90% and probably has a stock of highly enriched UO2 stashed somewhere and Fordow (plus likely other facilities we don't know about) is making more. The rest of what you need to do (making uranium metal, testing producing and assembling the various bomb components, and shoving it all into a deliverable package, etc) so far appears not to have been progressing at all prior to the war. There is little reason not to rush for the bomb now if you're the regime though. Could they conceivably make something crude and test in the timeframes people are talking about? Maybe.
 
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Josh128

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The intel that is known says the bomb program itself was still dormant as the Iranians claimed. What they have been doing is furthering their enrichment program with newer/better centrifuges that can separate more quickly and conceivably produce weapons grade materials rapidly. I think it is almost certain that Tehran has enriched past 90% and probably has a stock of highly enriched UO2 stashed somewhere and Fordow (plus likely other facilities we don't know about) is making more. The rest of what you need to do (making uranium metal, testing producing and assembling the various bomb components, and shoving it all into a deliverable package, etc) so far appears not to have been progressing at all prior to the war. There is little reason not to rush for the bomb now if you're the regime though. Could they conceivably make something crude and test in the timeframes people are talking about? Maybe.

Netanyahu has just recently said publicly that Iran began rushing efforts to build a nuclear weapon after Israel struck Beirut, killing Hezbollahs top commander, and Iran on Oct. 2024, and said they provided irrefutable evidence to the US. That evidence is why Trump rhetoric has been what is has.
 

K1052

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Netanyahu has just recently said publicly that Iran began rushing efforts to build a nuclear weapon after Israel struck Beirut, killing Hezbollahs top commander, and Iran on Oct. 2024, and said they provided irrefutable evidence to the US. That evidence is why Trump rhetoric has been what is has.

This might be hard to take in but Netanyahu has been saying Iran almost has the bomb for almost as long as I can remember and as such I do not think he is a reliable source of impartial information. He is of course telling this to Trump like every day so Trump is parroting it out.
 
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[DHT]Osiris

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The intel that is known says the bomb program itself was still dormant as the Iranians claimed. What they have been doing is furthering their enrichment program with newer/better centrifuges that can separate more quickly and conceivably produce weapons grade materials rapidly. I think it is almost certain that Tehran has enriched past 90% and probably has a stock of highly enriched UO2 stashed somewhere and Fordow (plus likely other facilities we don't know about) is making more. The rest of what you need to do (making uranium metal, testing producing and assembling the various bomb components, and shoving it all into a deliverable package, etc) so far appears not to have been progressing at all prior to the war. There is little reason not to rush for the bomb now if you're the regime though. Could they conceivably make something crude and test in the timeframes people are talking about? Maybe.
The machining for a gun-type warhead is pretty trivial at this point, I have no doubt they could flash-fry something together within a few days if they really felt like they should. Frankly if I was in any of the top 5 cities in Israel I'd be taking a vacation for a few weeks.
 

K1052

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The machining for a gun-type warhead is pretty trivial at this point, I have no doubt they could flash-fry something together within a few days if they really felt like they should. Frankly if I was in any of the top 5 cities in Israel I'd be taking a vacation for a few weeks.

The problem with gun type devices are that they are heavy and very material inefficient. Which is why the Iranians were working on implosion techniques.

I dunno if they have enough 90% or better HEU to make a gun device. If they do it would not be very suitable for military use but they could test to demonstrate capability.