Israel, Iran Foil Iran Arms Transfer

[imported_dna]

Originally posted by: jpeyton
Well I'm sure you know the answer to that question, sitting thousands of miles away in front of your computer.

No proof, no dice.

You're right! They were probably trying to smuggle toys.

 

[kylebisme]

Originally posted by: dna

Originally posted by: TheSnowman
Even if they were trying to rearm, I don't see that as any excuse to stop the cease fire. Hezbollah wasn't looking to shoot off all those missiles anyway, they were just trying to work a prisoner trade, and it's not like either side ever agreed to forgo rearmament here so I don't see any reason break the cease-fire over that.

I see that the fact that it was in the resolution is no match to your impeccable logic.

The resolution is no match for agreed upon terms, and agreed upon terms is what it takes to acomplish a cease-fire.

 

[imported_dna]

Originally posted by: TheSnowman
The resolution is no match for agreed upon terms, and agreed upon terms is what it takes to acomplish a cease-fire.

And one of the agreed upon terms was that there will be an embargo on arms-shipment to Hezbollah. You really don't give up, do you?

 

[kylebisme]

Hezbollah never agreed to any such thing.

 

[jpeyton]

Originally posted by: dna

Originally posted by: jpeyton
Well I'm sure you know the answer to that question, sitting thousands of miles away in front of your computer.

No proof, no dice.

You're right! They were probably trying to smuggle toys.

Actually, you're right! Who needs proof. We didn't need proof to start a war with Iraq, and look at all the WMDs we found there!

:roll:

 

[imported_dna]

Originally posted by: TheSnowman
Hezbollah never agreed to any such thing.

Then I guess you shouldn't complain about Israel breaking a ceas-fire that Hezbollah hasn't agreed to.

 

[imported_dna]

Originally posted by: jpeyton
Actually, you're right! Who needs proof. We didn't need proof to start a war with Iraq, and look at all the WMDs we found there!
:roll:

Nice try, but Iraq and Hezbollah are distinct issues.
If you wish to give the benefit of the doubt to a terrorist organization that just shot 4,000 rockets, then you should seek counseling for suicidal tendencies.

 

[kylebisme]

Originally posted by: dna

Originally posted by: TheSnowman
Hezbollah never agreed to any such thing.

Then I guess you shouldn't complain about Israel breaking a ceas-fire that Hezbollah hasn't agreed to.

Well that is the thing, Israel is the one who said there was a cease-fire, but is now holding Hezbollah accountable for something they never agreed to.

 

[imported_dna]

Originally posted by: TheSnowman
Well that is the thing, Israel is the one who said there was a cease-fire, but is now holding Hezbollah accountable for something they never agreed to.

I give up. If you haven't realized how ridicilous you sound by now, then there's nothing else I can do.

 

[Screech]

Originally posted by: TheSnowman

Originally posted by: dna

Originally posted by: TheSnowman
Hezbollah never agreed to any such thing.

Then I guess you shouldn't complain about Israel breaking a ceas-fire that Hezbollah hasn't agreed to.

Well that is the thing, Israel is the one who said there was a cease-fire, but is now holding Hezbollah accountable for something they never agreed to.

I'm afriad you missed the point, my friend.

If hez never agreed to the cease fire, why must israel follow it?

 

[dahunan]

I think he is saying that Hez never agreed to disarm


**but isn't disarmament of Hez part of the negotiated peace plan that was signed by both parties?

 

[kylebisme]

Well that is exactly my question, what exactly did Israel say Hezbollah agreed to?

 

[Screech]

Israel agreed to the UN cease fire, which explicitly calls for "the disarmament of all armed groups in Lebanon, so that, pursuant to the Lebanese cabinet decision of 27 July 2006, there will be no weapons or authority in Lebanon other than that of the Lebanese State."

Those were part of the terms of the cease-fire under the UNSC.

 

[kylebisme]

Sure, neither Hezbollah or Israel ever showed any intent in doing that until the Lebanese military moved in with UN backing though.

 

[imported_dna]

The Lebanese militray didn't move in until the cease fire.

 

[kylebisme]

Has Israel moved out now then?

 

[Rainsford]

Hmm, sounds suspicious all right...but nothing more. Waving this story around like it's absolute proof of ongoing wrongdoing is a little silly, if you ask me. Certainly worth looking into, but I see a lot of supposition and guessing here and very few facts.

 

[imported_dna]

Dunno....
Did Hezbollah disarm?

 

[kylebisme]

Did Hezbollah ever say they would disarm?

 

[imported_dna]

We've come full circle.

 

[kylebisme]

No, I do recall Israel saying the IDF would widthdraw as the Lebanese militray moved in.

 

[imported_dna]

There has been some withdrawl; if I'm not mistaken, all the reserve forces are out.

 

[kylebisme]

Sure, that is what I have heard as well. My point though is you can't rightly expect Hezbollah to stop rearming when they have plainly stated that they don't intend to stand down until all the Israeli solders have left Lebanese land.

 

[linkgoron]

Originally posted by: TheSnowman
No, I do recall Israel saying the IDF would widthdraw as the Lebanese militray moved in.

IDF withdraws from places that the Lebanese army occupies. That's what they're doing.

 

[kylebisme]

Sure, and that one attack on Hezbollah, but it looks like the plan is back on track now so at least we can be thankful for that.