Israel grants Mumbai nanny citizenship for bravery

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Freshgeardude

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Israel may be like the US where it is next to impossible to get citizenship unless your family member is already a member. By offering her full citizenship it may open the door to people they do not want to let in. Hence, the permanent residency and honorary citizenship. A shrewd move on their part.

Huh? I have seen people get citizenship here in florida without family being here.

But also how does it open a door? she did something really brave that doesn't happen all the time hence israel awarding her this
 

iGas

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Please provide your source of information.

IMHO, the Indian widower would be perfectly safe living where she is, and her act of humanity is pure instinct. It is nice the Jewish state grant her citizenship, but I hope that they don't force their holier than thou religious belief down her throat once they find out her motive & acceptant of relocating to the holy land is a simple matter of economic advancement.
 
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iGas

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Huh? I have seen people get citizenship here in florida without family being here.

But also how does it open a door? she did something really brave that doesn't happen all the time hence israel awarding her this
Oh really?

Or, could it be that the child family members (rabbis) have connections to people in high places as the decease were a rabbi and was running chabad houses as emissaries. And, they feels that it would be better for the child to have someone that he can relate to to take care of him since both of his parents are dead?
 

Narmer

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Huh? I have seen people get citizenship here in florida without family being here.

But also how does it open a door? she did something really brave that doesn't happen all the time hence israel awarding her this

Florida has all those people claiming to be refugees. That is an anomoly.

I already explained what I meant by opening the door (for family members to become citizens). That is how citizenship is usually acquired in the United States. Or it is the easiest route. Once you're here, you can petition for your wife, brother, son, daughter, cousin, etc...
 

JEDIYoda

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I just don't get it. She saved the Israeli child so they gave her citizenship as a reward-- except it was some kind of honorary citizenship, and residency. What's the point? Why not just go all the way? Why hold back?


Why try to make an issue out of a non issue??? Yopu hate israeli`s that much??
 

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Please provide your source of information.

IMHO, the Indian widower would be perfectly safe living where she is, and her act of humanity is pure instinct. It is nice the Jewish state grant her citizenship, but I hope that they don't force their holier than thou religious belief down her throat once they find out her motive & acceptant of relocating to the holy land is a simple matter of economic advancement.

It`s nice to ask for a source. But consider that she intervened in a planned killing and saved somebody who was suppose to be killed....
There is noway in hell you can tell us that if you were this woman you would have stayed and lived with no fear of repercussions against you.....truth hurts, huh??

of course nobody in the print media expoused that she would be killed...but nobody in the print media said she would be perfectly safe living in Mumbai....go figure.

You claim the rabbi was well connected in high places....
!66 people died in this massacre....
This woman did something brave and IMO needed protection.
This has nothing to do with whether or not the Rabbi had connections in high places.
What`s important is that Israel did the right thing and rewarded this woman!!

Why are you trying to down play this act of heroism by this woman?
Do you hate her for saving this Israeli/Jewish child?
 

iGas

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It`s nice to ask for a source. But consider that she intervened in a planned killing and saved somebody who was suppose to be killed....
There is noway in hell you can tell us that if you were this woman you would have stayed and lived with no fear of repercussions against you.....truth hurts, huh??

of course nobody in the print media expoused that she would be killed...but nobody in the print media said she would be perfectly safe living in Mumbai....go figure.

You claim the rabbi was well connected in high places....
!66 people died in this massacre....

This woman did something brave and IMO needed protection.
This has nothing to do with whether or not the Rabbi had connections in high places.
What`s important is that Israel did the right thing and rewarded this woman!!

Why are you trying to down play this act of heroism by this woman?
Do you hate her for saving this Israeli/Jewish child?
Where is your bleeding heart for the rest of the people that dies all over the world everyday?

I'm not saying that she isn't a good person, but what she did is simply a humanity reaction that anyone would do except for maybe a few ATOTers ;)

It is nice that you see giving the woman a "honorary citizenship" is a reward which it is maybe is, but I think it goes both way because the woman can provide the child a better service than the Jewish state with out her.

How long does a honorary citizenship last?
Can it be strip away from the person once her service is no longer needed?
Is it equivalent or a step up from a working Visa, or landed immigrant status?
I would like to see the legal documents that spells out the actual facts because I'm a heretic & a doubting Thomas.
 

Borealis7

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there is another side to it...the Chabbad center that was attacked in Mumbai is a Hassidic (Haredim) institution. Interior Minister Elly Ishai is a Safardic Haredi jew, they take care of their own (if you get my drift) even though Chabbad is affiliated with the Ashkenazi Haredim sect...i guess Haredim is Haredim in the eyes of Elly Ishai. (different sects usually dont play together very nicely. google the Emmanuel School for girls case from several months ago)

i'm not sure any reward would've been offered had it not been a Chabbad community child that was rescued. but i could be wrong...
 

Freshgeardude

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I believe the center was more of a "familiar zone" for jews traveling than it was a missionary or any thing else.

If any remember, a father a daughter were killed both traveling and they mentioned its purpose in some articles.


could you logically expect jews to convert people in india, though?
 

Narmer

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I believe the center was more of a "familiar zone" for jews traveling than it was a missionary or any thing else.

If any remember, a father a daughter were killed both traveling and they mentioned its purpose in some articles.


could you logically expect jews to convert people in india, though?

Jews do not proselytize.