Your argument is based on you bias towards Israelis it's supported by no evidence of why should they be there ?
1- The Israeli took the land from the Arabs with the help of the British
the bullsh*t never stops. they were given a much smaller homeland by the un and the british actually. it was based on population and the land bought by the jews from absentee landlords. and remember that during the early years much of palestinians massive population growth was also due to immigrants since the british allowed unlimited immigration even when they actually blocked all jewish immigration during the peak of the holocaust. its only due to the palestinians rejecting all peace that they lost more land.
2-They have kicked Arabs out of their homes
actually many left because they thought they would give the arab armies an easier time exterminating the jews so they could return to their home+ their jewish neighbors home. there was also the factor of antisemitism. sure..teach your children that jews are evil and drink the blood of children and i'm sure you'll be scared once the tables are turned and its not you who are the regular mob lynching jews. of course they were fearful, their previous conduct and guilt would have made anyone fearful. but just so you know, about the same number of jews were kicked out of their homes in the arab states and had their assetts seized. odd the palestinians weren't given those homes isn't it? and frankly the arab citizens of israel seem to contradict the whole kicking everyone out thing.
3- The Arabs have all the right to regain there lands from the Jewish invaders
oh, so you think its an arab land rights thing, not a palestinian thing. getting a little racist here aren't we? theres immigration and land divisions in much of history because of great wars and empires, its how things work. deal with it. sounds like you are one of those hamas people who believe all of the land should go to the palestinians. and if you want to go back to the whole "regaining land" thing...what do you think the jews claim? so really just sod off with that line of arguement.
4- The Arabs don't want every Jew dead, they just want them out of their land and when I say out of their land I mean completly out of the middle-east and back into Europe.
no, they don't. they just want them to all leave. or die in the process. its basically the same. i could say i don't want you dead, but i want you to move to the moon. if you don't. i shoot or blow you up. be serious. your underlying mindset is showing...and its rather ugly. try as you might to hide your ugly face.
5-Whenever I hear you pro-Zionist ppl arguing for Israel you guys make it look like since the begening of time the Israeli's and the Arabs co-existed, but then the Arabs decided for no reason to attack the Israeli's just for the hell of it. Wrong they invaded Arabic land, they get kicked out of it by Arabs simple logic.
the arabs were happy only when the jewish people had no state and were under their thumbs in various forms of quiet oppression. yes thats the way it was. and of course it wasn't no reason, the arab states didn't want a jewish state even on a tiny scrap of land. they didn't like jews. its religious. and its not invasion, it was immigration. whats new.
6- "Without the nukes, the evil of Islam would rape/destroy them in a heartbeat"-------> Looks like one of those Zionist attempts to gain world sempathy, hmm didn't I mention before that the "Anti-semetisim" card has been swiped too many times and that the card has maxed out.
sorry, just look at the actions of the arab militants and armies. at every chance they had they purposely attacked and shelled civilians. its simply exposes their mindset of hatred and genocide. its historical fact. they seed their populations with hatred and worship of the cult of death. they teach their children with schoolbooks filled with the vilest hatred and even have tv shows where the children are indoctrinated with death. the reality speaks for itself. it happens at all levels of government and media, its no fringe, its the mainstream.
http://www.pmw.org.il/
http://www.edume.org/reports/index.htm
http://soberingup.brinkster.net/ETerrorMovie.html
7-"Israel was quite willing to give territory back for peace like it did with Egypt, Lebanon"-----> Wow I am amazed by Israel's kindness, but guess what DIPSH!T the land of Lebanon was occupied untill half way through all of it, and they were going to lay there dirty hands on Lebanon's water resevoirs and damms power generators whihc were and still are crucial to Israel, oh I feel so good towards the Israeli's giving back Lebanese land to it's owners, and I feel so grateful for the giving the Egyptians who get there desert back. and the palestenians are so arrogant they should feel very grateful toward Israeli's giving them back there land in fragments.
fact is this. they occupied the land of those who would destroy them repeatedly directly and in underhanded ways. it is only just. in return for actual peace. not just recognition of reality that can be wiped out, but an actual right to exist, they willingly gave land back. sharon himself was responsble for bulldozing settlements in the sinai. as for the palestinians. the response of israel to terrorism and war was to punish through settlements. terrorism couldn't go unanswered. frankly it was humane. land or lives? which is worth more to you? well i guess i shoulldn't ask you such a question.
would you rather they do what the arab states do to snuff out trouble makers? like annhilate entire towns at a time? and frankly you dont get to turn to terror and then keep negotiating for the same conditions, there has to be price to be paid or else it will never end. just imagine if japan or hitler in ww2 just got to say oh we tire of war, we call it off for now, now we demand you stop attacking us and pretend it never happened. bygones?
8- "Israel occupies the Gaza Strip (or did) and the West Bank as the result of defensive wars against muslim attempts at genocide.' stop using the words gennocide and holocaust when you talk about israel, these aren't old WWII weak Jews trying to run away from the Nazis, but these are ppl armed with state of the art technology and WMDs and the last time I have checked when an occupied nation fights back against it's occupiers it's called LIBERATION not GENOCIDE you dumbsh!t.
sorry, the arab leaders speeches to their own people aren't exactly coded. they were calls to genocide, and the arab peoples cheered. the indiscriminate attacks they used and still support are just another sign of this. and the jews aren't weak...well boohoo. oh the evil jew is strong enough to defend himself now, we can't oppress him anymore. oh the shock horror. if you had your way they would be and the resultant genocide would have made you rather happy. and really? liberation? so hitler was just liberating his people from the thumbs of the allies? sorry, not all liberations are valid. when a people make horrible undefendable choices in their struggle they invalidate the whole enterprise. its not acceptable that "liberation" means no holds barred violence. by your line of logic isreals self defence needs would mean they could basically do anything including wiping out the palestinians all together. i mean why not? anything in the name of the cause. stand on the ground you are an you cannot critise israel at all. yet you do. of course you do, its the willfully blind mindset of a hateful irrational bigot.
and since i don't feel like bumping your flame bait i'll edit instead of post.
no not all the land was purchased, but much of what was in the initial partition rejected by the arabs and palestinians was. their choice of violence led to their own suffering and refugee situation. and no, israel didn't have loads of bulldozers then, they were fighting for their lives being attacked on all sides. you have a rather distorted view of history. and the comparison to ny has no bearing. there was no recognized state in the area. it was british occupied territory.
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