Isnt this extremely hypocritical

[Czar]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/2254959.stm

"do as I tell you not as I do" seems fitting

 

[UltraQuiet]

Just out of curiousity czar, who do you think is being hypocritical?

 

[Linflas]

Hmm the last time the Russians visited Georgia they stayed for 70 some years. I think I can understand Georgians being somewhat skeptical of any offers of Russian troops entering their country to "help to wipe out the rebels holed up in the Pankisi Gorge".

 

[Czar]

Originally posted by: DaveSohmer
Just out of curiousity czar, who do you think is being hypocritical?

the US for wanting to go to war with another country in hunt for terrorists while banning other countries to do the same,

 

[Linflas]

Originally posted by: Czar

Originally posted by: DaveSohmer
Just out of curiousity czar, who do you think is being hypocritical?

the US for wanting to go to war with another country in hunt for terrorists while banning other countries to do the same,

What country is that? If you answer Iraq you are wrong. If you answer Afghanistan you are still wrong since we had clear and convincing evidence that the Taliban government was working hand in hand with Al Qeida. The situation in the article you linked is totally different.

 

[Czar]

Originally posted by: Linflas

Originally posted by: Czar

Originally posted by: DaveSohmer
Just out of curiousity czar, who do you think is being hypocritical?

the US for wanting to go to war with another country in hunt for terrorists while banning other countries to do the same,

What country is that? If you answer Iraq you are wrong. If you answer Afghanistan you are still wrong since we had clear and convincing evidence that the Taliban government was working hand in hand with Al Qeida. The situation in the article you linked is totally different.

and Russia doesnt have proof of terrorists in Georgia?

and it doesnt realy matter much


http://www.usatoday.com/usatonline/20020910/4432340s.htm

But they'll also see Bush repeating a familiar refrain: ''He sees (the war on terrorism) as a struggle between good and evil, and he sees America as the leading champion of good in the world, with a responsibility to put an end to this evil wherever it is -- way beyond Afghanistan.''

 

[UltraQuiet]

Originally posted by: Czar

Originally posted by: DaveSohmer
Just out of curiousity czar, who do you think is being hypocritical?

the US for wanting to go to war with another country in hunt for terrorists while banning other countries to do the same,

... but the intention of putting troops in Georgia while telling the US not to go to war with Iraq isn't hypocritical? Your constant criticisms of the US are reaching the point of comedic relief, czar. Try to think things through before you open your mouth. The US has troops in GA to help fight the chechens. the addition of Russian troops would further confuse the situation. What has Russia done to help in Iraq? Oh yeah, signed illegal trade agreements to further support Saddam. It was a nice try though.

 

Czar

Did the USA hurt you in some way ?

From this post to the past postings it is clear you have a hatred of America,did we as a people or government wrong you or your family in the past ?

What causes this disliking of this great country ?

 

[Linflas]

Russia may or may not have evidence of terrorists in Georgia. For the sake of this conversation I will accept that they do since the Georgian government per the BBC article has already made 1 unsuccessful attempt to dislodge them. That in itself shows that the Georgian government is not acting in concert with these terrorists in the way that the Taliban was with Al Qeida. The Georgian government has stated that they are currently working on drawing up new plans to remove them. As for your totally unrelated link to the USA Today article about Bush exactly what relevance does it have to the topic you started here?

 

[Czar]

Originally posted by: DaveSohmer

Originally posted by: Czar

Originally posted by: DaveSohmer
Just out of curiousity czar, who do you think is being hypocritical?

the US for wanting to go to war with another country in hunt for terrorists while banning other countries to do the same,

... but the intention of putting troops in Georgia while telling the US not to go to war with Iraq isn't hypocritical? You constant criticisms of the US are reaching the point of comedic relief, czar. Try to think things through before you open your mouth. The US has troops in GA to help fight the chechens. the addition of Russian troops would further confuse the situation. What has Russia done to help in Iraq? Oh yeah, signed illegal trade agreements to further support Saddam. It was a nice try though.

Iraq has not been linked to al-qaeda at all as far as I and the world knows, so try to think at least a tiny bit before you post next time

 

[Linflas]

Originally posted by: Czar

Originally posted by: DaveSohmer

Originally posted by: Czar

Originally posted by: DaveSohmer
Just out of curiousity czar, who do you think is being hypocritical?

the US for wanting to go to war with another country in hunt for terrorists while banning other countries to do the same,

... but the intention of putting troops in Georgia while telling the US not to go to war with Iraq isn't hypocritical? You constant criticisms of the US are reaching the point of comedic relief, czar. Try to think things through before you open your mouth. The US has troops in GA to help fight the chechens. the addition of Russian troops would further confuse the situation. What has Russia done to help in Iraq? Oh yeah, signed illegal trade agreements to further support Saddam. It was a nice try though.

Iraq has not been linked to al-qaeda at all as far as I and the world knows, so try to think at least a tiny bit before you post next time

Where in his post did he say that Al Qeida was linked to Iraq? Perhaps you should take your advice to heart. The stated intentions of the US regarding Iraq are to end their capability of producing weapons of mass destruction per UN resolutions and agreements they signed at the end of the Gulf War.

 

[Czar]

Originally posted by: Linflas
Russia may or may not have evidence of terrorists in Georgia. For the sake of this conversation I will accept that they do since the Georgian government per the BBC article has already made 1 unsuccessful attempt to dislodge them. That in itself shows that the Georgian government is not acting in concert with these terrorists in the way that the Taliban was with Al Qeida. The Georgian government has stated that they are currently working on drawing up new plans to remove them. As for your totally unrelated link to the USA Today article about Bush exactly what relevance does it have to the topic you atarted here?

The Georgian government has been trying to get control of the area for many months now and not exactly succesful according to the Russians and thats why the Russians want to step in. I was very pleased with both of them when I read few weeks ago that the Russian and Georgian army were working together to get rid of the terrorists but I guess that plan has gone to the trash bin sadly.

About the USA Today article is relevant to this quote

What country is that? If you answer Iraq you are wrong. If you answer Afghanistan you are still wrong since we had clear and convincing evidence that the Taliban government was working hand in hand with Al Qeida. The situation in the article you linked is totally different.

meaning that Bush is ready to go into any country anywhere, not just Iraq and Afghanistan.

 

[Czar]

Originally posted by: Roger
Czar

Did the USA hurt you in some way ?

From this post to the past postings it is clear you have a hatred of America,did we as a people or government wrong you or your family in the past ?

What causes this disliking of this great country ?

hello! I'm from the world outside of the US, the place where most people live and where most people dislike the US government because of their actions. Why are you so surprised?

 

I see.

place where most people live and where most people dislike the US government because of their actions.

I didn't know you were speaking for the billions of other people and knew there thoughts as well.

You must travel a lot and talk to a lot of people to make such a broad statement.

 

[Czar]

Originally posted by: Linflas
Where in his post did he say that Al Qeida was linked to Iraq? Perhaps you should take your advice to heart. The stated intentions of the US regarding Iraq are to end their capability of producing weapons of mass destruction per UN resolutions and agreements they signed at the end of the Gulf War.

You didnt, sorry.
Reason I mentioned it is because Russia wants to go after terrorists in Georgia, not the same reason the US wants to go into Iraq. And has it been prooven that Iraq is producing weapons of mass destruction or does it work that if you say it enough the people will start to belive it and then the truth doesnt matter at all.

 

[Linflas]

Originally posted by: Czar

Originally posted by: Linflas
Where in his post did he say that Al Qeida was linked to Iraq? Perhaps you should take your advice to heart. The stated intentions of the US regarding Iraq are to end their capability of producing weapons of mass destruction per UN resolutions and agreements they signed at the end of the Gulf War.

You didnt, sorry.
Reason I mentioned it is because Russia wants to go after terrorists in Georgia, not the same reason the US wants to go into Iraq. And has it been prooven that Iraq is producing weapons of mass destruction or does it work that if you say it enough the people will start to belive it and then the truth doesnt matter at all.

Lets see, he was working on them before the Gulf war, has deployed gas against Kurds in his own country, and when the inspection teams were working in Iraq they found evidence of the work until they were getting too close and got kicked out. In the years following their removal do you really believe they stopped these programs? Of course you don't but since there is little danger of those weapons affecting Iceland you are not the least bit concerned about them.

 

[Czar]

Originally posted by: Linflas
Lets see, he was working on them before the Gulf war, has deployed gas against Kurds in his own country, and when the inspection teams were working in Iraq they found evidence of the work until they were getting too close and got kicked out. In the years following their removal do you really believe they stopped these programs? Of course you don't but since there is little danger of those weapons affecting Iceland you are not the least bit concerned about them.

True he was, Pakistan and India where also working on them and now have them, why didnt the US invade those countries?
Another thing about the Kurds, werent there reports of al-qaeda members seeking refuge in Iraq, in the northern part of Iraq, where the kurds rule?
Nothing has been stopping iraq from developing these weapons but it would definetly not been in Iraqs best interest to develope them right now. Not just because of international presure but because of the army itself, there have been many reports of unhappy soldiers and I wouldnt be surprised that if things are left alone that the army would remove Saddam in the next 10 years or so.
But apart from "suspicion" is there any proof that Iraq has those weapons or is currently developing them?
I just want proof before someone is punished or has been given a chance to make things right.

also, just a question to you regarding the original article, dont you find it hypocritical that the US wants to go whereever it wants in hunt for terrorists but then tells Russia that they cant?

 

[ToBeMe]

My God...........you can't see what's going on here I supposse?????

Russia is/can block the US from going into Iraq through Security Councel veto..............Russia and nearly all other countries now agree Iraq has completely broken the agreements it made in 1991 AND Iraq has admitted to having chemical, biological, and developing nuclear WMD. Russia decides to go into Georgia and take out some people they dislike........US says no...................Russia suddenly agress to let US go into Iraq if US allows them to go into Georgia! Simple logic..............

 

[Linflas]

Originally posted by: Czar

Originally posted by: Linflas
Lets see, he was working on them before the Gulf war, has deployed gas against Kurds in his own country, and when the inspection teams were working in Iraq they found evidence of the work until they were getting too close and got kicked out. In the years following their removal do you really believe they stopped these programs? Of course you don't but since there is little danger of those weapons affecting Iceland you are not the least bit concerned about them.

True he was, Pakistan and India where also working on them and now have them, why didnt the US invade those countries?
Another thing about the Kurds, werent there reports of al-qaeda members seeking refuge in Iraq, in the northern part of Iraq, where the kurds rule?
Nothing has been stopping iraq from developing these weapons but it would definetly not been in Iraqs best interest to develope them right now. Not just because of international presure but because of the army itself, there have been many reports of unhappy soldiers and I wouldnt be surprised that if things are left alone that the army would remove Saddam in the next 10 years or so.
But apart from "suspicion" is there any proof that Iraq has those weapons or is currently developing them?
I just want proof before someone is punished or has been given a chance to make things right.

also, just a question to you regarding the original article, dont you find it hypocritical that the US wants to go whereever it wants in hunt for terrorists but then tells Russia that they cant?

No and I explained in depth why I do not believe it is hypocritical in numerous posts above. One other point for you to consider based on the original BBC article you began this post with. We have not told Russia they can't, we have requested in diplomatic terms that they refrain from doing so ie we take "strong exception to the statements". Further from my reading of the article the Russian stance is that they want to see some sense of urgency shown in removing this group hence the implied threat if Georgia won't we (Russia) will.

 

No rebuttal Czar ?

 

[Czar]

Originally posted by: ToBeMe
My God...........you can't see what's going on here I supposse?????

Russia is/can block the US from going into Iraq through Security Councel veto..............Russia and nearly all other countries now agree Iraq has completely broken the agreements it made in 1991 AND Iraq has admitted to having chemical, biological, and developing nuclear WMD. Russia decides to go into Georgia and take out some people they dislike........US says no...................Russia suddenly agress to let US go into Iraq if US allows them to go into Georgia! Simple logic..............

hehe somehow that actually makes sense

 

Czar

Read your sig,then reflect upon it for awhile.

 

[Czar]

Originally posted by: Roger
No rebuttal Czar ?

well sorry, I didnt see your edit.

I didn't know you were speaking for the billions of other people and knew there thoughts as well.

You must travel a lot and talk to a lot of people to make such a broad statement.

Do you see it differently, do you see that "most" people in the world love the US government and its international policy?

 

Point me in the direction,show me some links that show that most of the people in the world dislike/disapprove/hate America.

Who knows,I might agree with you then.

 

[Czar]

Originally posted by: Roger
Czar

Read your sig,then reflect upon it for awhile.

hate and dislike are two different things you know