Isn't this an insult...?

[Glitchny]

Originally posted by: yayo

Originally posted by: CanOWorms

Originally posted by: yayo

Originally posted by: CanOWorms

Originally posted by: yayo

Originally posted by: ivol07

Originally posted by: yayo
Lets rehash again why you give a shït about something that doesnt directly effect you???

you gotta eat right?

What?

It does directly effect me. I have to cross a picket line to get my groceries, or even if I want to go to Taco Bell in this case. Also, if the Union gets their way I have to pay more for my Groceries.

So?

Think about that next time you want a raise. Some how, some way your measly raise will also effect the economy, just like their striking will effect the price of chicken.

Still, you gotta eat right?

Go somewhere else to buy food. Why all the belly aching?

Why should we go somewhere else to get food just because some of the employees are on strike?

Well you don't have to, but at the same time no one cares to hear you guys complain about it. They are doing what they feel they need to do. Put yourselves in their position. I'm sure you'd strike too.

Going elsewhere is just another alternative.

Well we don't care to hear them complaining either. We're doing what we feel we need to do. We're just on the opposite sides.

If I put myself in their position, I'd realize I shouldn't be on strike. When you have a job with little or no skills and no real special knowledge, you don't have much to bargain with. Middle schoolers could do their jobs. It's not a viable career path. They're jobs for high school students, temporary unemployed people, etc. They're not meant to be life-long, family-supporting jobs in my opinion. To the company they're of almost no value since they can be easily replaced.

Getting a real job is an alternative!

Riiiiight, you are better than them.

again I say good day to you sir!

I wouldnt say better but i would say that a 14 year old chils has the same motor skills and mental capacity to work at one of theses stores. Its not a complicated process, and when u are getting paid enormous amounts to do it, u shouldnt complain. Hell washing dishes is alot worse job than this and they only get pain Minimum wage.... makes lots of sense.

Oh and I hope you have a great day wallowing in your ignorance, and thoughts that the strikers are right

 

[CanOWorms]

Originally posted by: sygyzy
The supermarket strikers suck. First they make too much money. I used to think they were side jobs and I thought it was weird there were full grown adults working there full time. How could they afford to take care of their kids I thought? Little did I know that veteran checkers made bank!

My work used to pay for 99% of health and now they pay for something like 93%. Well that translates much more than $20 a month (which is the figure I heard they have to start paying a month extra for health). I am not complaining. 93% is better than 0%

Yayo - You make absolutely no sense. Why don't you stop posting in this thread, then you don't have to hear anyone complaining.

I agree with you... I'm absolutely shocked that people think of this as a viable career path. A career cashier or bagboy? I've always thought of it as a job for high school students, people temporarily between jobs, retired folks, etc. It's not meant to be a job to raise a family on and it's not meant to have a good pay and benefits.

 

[ivol07]

Originally posted by: yayo

Originally posted by: ivol07

Originally posted by: yayo
Lets rehash again why you give a shït about something that doesnt directly effect you???

you gotta eat right?

What?

It does directly effect me. I have to cross a picket line to get my groceries, or even if I want to go to Taco Bell in this case. Also, if the Union gets their way I have to pay more for my Groceries.

So?

Think about that next time you want a raise. Some how, some way your measly raise will also effect the economy, just like their striking will effect the price of chicken.

Still, you gotta eat right?

Go somewhere else to buy food. Why all the belly aching?

But the difference is when I ask for a raise I'm not going to be trying to shut down the company in the process. I'm not going to be standing in front of the company telling people to go elsewhere until I get what I want.

 

[TMPadmin]

Originally posted by: yayo

Originally posted by: Glitchny

Originally posted by: yayo

Originally posted by: CanOWorms

Originally posted by: yayo

Originally posted by: ivol07

Originally posted by: yayo
Lets rehash again why you give a shït about something that doesnt directly effect you???

you gotta eat right?

What?

It does directly effect me. I have to cross a picket line to get my groceries, or even if I want to go to Taco Bell in this case. Also, if the Union gets their way I have to pay more for my Groceries.

So?

Think about that next time you want a raise. Some how, some way your measly raise will also effect the economy, just like their striking will effect the price of chicken.

Still, you gotta eat right?

Go somewhere else to buy food. Why all the belly aching?

Why should we go somewhere else to get food just because some of the employees are on strike?

Well you don't have to, but at the same time no one cares to hear you guys complain about it. They are doing what they feel they need to do. Put yourselves in their position. I'm sure you'd strike too.

Going elsewhere is just another alternative.

NO I WOULDNT STRIKE, i would realize that I am getting paid 3 times what I should and getting benifits, so i would STFU and tell everyone else there to do the same

I say good day sir!

And just as things were getting interesting. Come 'on! I wanna here the come-back! What logic is going to beat down the man? I'm dying to see the end result.

<----- Puts down fire stoker and sits back to enjoy the fire.

 

[Glitchny]

Originally posted by: TMPadmin

Originally posted by: yayo

Originally posted by: Glitchny

Originally posted by: yayo

Originally posted by: CanOWorms

Originally posted by: yayo

Originally posted by: ivol07

Originally posted by: yayo
Lets rehash again why you give a sh&iuml;t about something that doesnt directly effect you???

you gotta eat right?

What?

It does directly effect me. I have to cross a picket line to get my groceries, or even if I want to go to Taco Bell in this case. Also, if the Union gets their way I have to pay more for my Groceries.

So?

Think about that next time you want a raise. Some how, some way your measly raise will also effect the economy, just like their striking will effect the price of chicken.

Still, you gotta eat right?

Go somewhere else to buy food. Why all the belly aching?

Why should we go somewhere else to get food just because some of the employees are on strike?

Well you don't have to, but at the same time no one cares to hear you guys complain about it. They are doing what they feel they need to do. Put yourselves in their position. I'm sure you'd strike too.

Going elsewhere is just another alternative.

NO I WOULDNT STRIKE, i would realize that I am getting paid 3 times what I should and getting benifits, so i would STFU and tell everyone else there to do the same

I say good day sir!

And just as things were getting interesting. Come 'on! I wanna here the come-back! What logic is going to beat down the man? I'm dying to see the end result.

<----- Puts down fire stoker and sits back to enjoy the fire.

seems they couldnt come up with any arguments

 

[rufruf44]

Originally posted by: sygyzy
The supermarket strikers suck. First they make too much money. I used to think they were side jobs and I thought it was weird there were full grown adults working there full time. How could they afford to take care of their kids I thought? Little did I know that veteran checkers made bank!

Yayo - You make absolutely no sense. Why don't you stop posting in this thread, then you don't have to hear anyone complaining.

Yep, you choose to click the link and post here, no one forcing you to listen to the complaints.

As well as supermarket strikers, since when does their right superceedes the customer's right to shop where they want to? And people wonder why big business moved their job overseas. For once, they don't have to deal with worker's crapping on them like this.

 

[imported_Papi]

Seriously... Is there nothing else to complain about, listen to yourselves. Don't you have girlfriends problems or customer related issues you'd like to share.

B&iuml;tching about not being able to buy groceries... oh poor babies, you might have to actually travel to grocery shop in peace rather than try and cross the line of picketers fighting for a right given to them by a union.

I know where I shop one lady has been there for 30 years. She like working in the grocery chain business. This was a job she originally got while putting herself through college decades ago. Some people just like it. Some people do it because they don't have to work, but want to to keep busy.

But because it inconveniences you people, its wrong.

I clicked on the link because I though I was going to read something worth reading. Apparently I was wrong.

 

[rufruf44]

Originally posted by: yayo
Seriously... Is there nothing else to complain about, listen to yourselves. Don't you have girlfriends problems or customer related issues you'd like to share.

B&iuml;tching about not being able to buy groceries... oh poor babies, you might have to actually travel to grocery shop in peace rather than try and cross the line of picketers fighting for a right given to them by a union.

I know where I shop one lady has been there for 30 years. She like working in the grocery chain business. This was a job she originally got while putting herself through college decades ago. Some people just like it. Some people do it because they don't have to work, but want to to keep busy.

But because it inconveniences you people, its wrong.

I clicked on the link because I though I was going to read something worth reading. Apparently I was wrong.

Thats BS. If they work because they like it or just work to avoid boredom, why are they so uptight about $$$ issue? They're striking because they want more $$$, as simple as that.
Again I ask, who gives you the right to cause trouble to other people? You can strike all you want, but don't expect people not to complaint about it when it affect them as well.

 

[NeoPTLD]

Since you mentioned this, I just remembered the picket line formed by university clerical workers in Canada in which some guy in a car got PO'ed and drove right through the women.

 

[dirtboy]

Originally posted by: yayo
are on strike?

Put yourselves in their position. I'm sure you'd strike too.[/quote]

I tried to put myself in their position, but my employer cut my health benefits just like theirs did. I don't see them trying to help me and my employer told me that if I didn't like it, I could go work somewhere else. hmmmm...

 

[ggavinmoss]

While I don't think there's a fundamental problem with the workers being more financially responsible for their benefits, I think there's room for a compromise. But what really irks me are the buttons the strikers were/are wearing that stated "No Concessions." It bugs me that any side would be closed to the idea of compromise -- it encourages both sides to not give in and lengthens the strike.

-geoff

 

[digitalsm]

Originally posted by: yayo
Seriously... Is there nothing else to complain about, listen to yourselves. Don't you have girlfriends problems or customer related issues you'd like to share.

B&iuml;tching about not being able to buy groceries... oh poor babies, you might have to actually travel to grocery shop in peace rather than try and cross the line of picketers fighting for a right given to them by a union.

I know where I shop one lady has been there for 30 years. She like working in the grocery chain business. This was a job she originally got while putting herself through college decades ago. Some people just like it. Some people do it because they don't have to work, but want to to keep busy.

But because it inconveniences you people, its wrong.

I clicked on the link because I though I was going to read something worth reading. Apparently I was wrong.

Cry me a fvcking river. They are striking for one sole reason. They do not want to pay a small insurance premium. The unions balk about how the companies are forcing millions of dollars of medical costs on to the employees, but what they dont say employees would only have to pay $20-80 a month each. One years coverage is less than two weeks pay, thats for someone with a famil/dependents. Someone thats single, its two days work.

Cry me a huge fvcking river. They are morons for striking in what the left likes to call a "bad economy" when its actually only a bad job market, for which CA has one of the worst. These companies made a VERY reasonable request, yes $80x12x70000=$67million, but each individual person would only pay $20-80 for insurance, and these are great insurance policies.

The only people being greedy are the employees. These companies requests are no way "unfair buisness practices" nor are they unreasonable. Its either that or they start laying off people and or shuting stores. They'll likely have to shut down 1 in 3 stores in CA, if they cant cut labor costs, and thats just to try and keep up with the competition.

 

[hopeless879]

Originally posted by: Jzero

Originally posted by: Jeff7
Walmart overnights where I live starts you at $8/hr for a stocker; I'm more than that now - up to $9.32/hr, and I pay around $20/wk for various benefits. No strikes there.

It's Walmart. No union. You can't have a strike without organized workers. I've never heard of a McDonald's strike either.

They had a strike at a McDonalds by me in Macedonia, Ohio a couple years back. I think it was the first for McDonalds ever. It was all over the local news.

 

[digitalsm]

Originally posted by: ggavinmoss
While I don't think there's a fundamental problem with the workers being more financially responsible for their benefits, I think there's room for a compromise. But what really irks me are the buttons the strikers were/are wearing that stated "No Concessions." It bugs me that any side would be closed to the idea of compromise -- it encourages both sides to not give in and lengthens the strike.

-geoff

Id hardly call $5 a week, ie 2 days work = one year full coverage for a single person, to $15-20 a week, one and a half weeks pay = one year full coverage for a family.

Thats not unreasonable. How much more do you want the companies to compromise?

 

[digitalsm]

And just because Im a cold person.

It is my hope these companies lock out employee permanently, and as they can, replace each and everyone of them with a new hire.

Poor grandma with 30 years with the company out on her ass because she is a moron. Cant say I have any sympathy for morons toting the union line. Cant think for themselves I guess.

 

[Hammer]

are you required to join a union to work there? they have to have some non-union workers if they don't.

 

[imported_Papi]

Originally posted by: rufruf44

Originally posted by: yayo
Seriously... Is there nothing else to complain about, listen to yourselves. Don't you have girlfriends problems or customer related issues you'd like to share.

B&iuml;tching about not being able to buy groceries... oh poor babies, you might have to actually travel to grocery shop in peace rather than try and cross the line of picketers fighting for a right given to them by a union.

I know where I shop one lady has been there for 30 years. She like working in the grocery chain business. This was a job she originally got while putting herself through college decades ago. Some people just like it. Some people do it because they don't have to work, but want to to keep busy.

But because it inconveniences you people, its wrong.

I clicked on the link because I though I was going to read something worth reading. Apparently I was wrong.

Thats BS. If they work because they like it or just work to avoid boredom, why are they so uptight about $$$ issue? They're striking because they want more $$$, as simple as that.
Again I ask, who gives you the right to cause trouble to other people? You can strike all you want, but don't expect people not to complaint about it when it affect them as well.

It only effects you because you allow it. Drama seekers the bunch of you.

If they don't want to pay 20-40 dollars for insurance who cares! Not your pay, not your job, not your problem. You are just bitter because you might have to walk your asses a couple blocks to another store.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not in their favor, quite frankly I don't give a rats ass either way. I don't live in the US and our stores don't strike. However if they did, I'd go somewhere else. Why bother with it all. It's just a hassle and a bunch of drama. So unless you like drama, oh darn, wait... look what audience I'm speaking to.

Nevermind carry on...

 

[digitalsm]

Originally posted by: Hammer
are you required to join a union to work there? they have to have some non-union workers if they don't.

You dont have to join the union.

These companies already hired and trained a new workforce before the strike went into effect. They are continuing to hire. Starting pay $12 a hour.

 

[lukatmyshu]

I remember when the longshoremen were striking a few years ago, and the Port of LA was losing like .... 1 million bucks a day. The average wage for a longshoreman was 100,000 a year. And they wanted more!!! The absolute WORST thing about it was that the Longshoreman union is effectively closed. You can't just join, you have to have a seat given to you by a parent or relative. It's like an aristocracy in America ... I wish my dad could will me his medical degree ('no sir I haven't ever installed a pacemaker, but I've installed a video-card and my dad was a doctor so it shouldn't be too hard.') And to yayo, about the lady who likes working in a grocery store ... i like sitting on my ass and doing nothing but NO ONE will pay me what I think I am worth ... Should I strike and and complain? No ... you get paid what your job is worth. If it takes NO SKILL to do your job and there are others willing to do your job for less then your pay MUST go down. It is a simple law of economics. If you don't like that, either do a job that no one else wants to do (like draw sperm from animals in Singapore) or get a job that requires skills.

 

[amnesiac]

I just went and shopped at Trader Joe's instead. They have better stuff for cheaper anyway.

 

[Hammer]

Originally posted by: digitalsm

Originally posted by: Hammer
are you required to join a union to work there? they have to have some non-union workers if they don't.

You dont have to join the union.

These companies already hired and trained a new workforce before the strike went into effect. They are continuing to hire. Starting pay $12 a hour.

well then the problem should solve itself shortly. kind ofdumb to strike when so many people are looking for jobs.

 

[Yossarian]

Originally posted by: amnesiac
I just went and shopped at Trader Joe's instead. They have better stuff for cheaper anyway.

If you don't support the strike, you should shop at the store you normally would.

 

[digitalsm]

Oh and I will say. If you are a cashier after 30 years in the grocery biz, you gotta truely be a moron. More so if you have a college education.

Cashiers-> Assistant front end manager-> Front End Manager-> Manager of another Dept-> Grocery Manager->Store Director-> Regional Manager->
Stockers-> Assistant Grocery Manager-> Assistant Grocery Manager 3rd Key-> Grocery Manager-> Store Director->Regional Manager->

Etc
Etc

It is possible for you to move up and if you dont move up its your own damn fault.

 

[Ornery]

"...The Ralphs by my house has picketers in front of all exits and they walk across blocking traffic from coming in and out..."

Any of the options I exercised in this case would be captured on video tape. One option would be to call cops for an escort. I love it when these morons go at it with the cops. My friends and I might just cross the line and let them go ahead and start something. My tape would prove they threw the first punch/drew first blood. If they happen to get their skulls bashed in, in self defense, oh well. I remember one striking fvcktard getting run over by a train a few years ago. He deserved it, too...

 

[sillymofo]

Instead of quoting, I'll just make quick notes:

[rant]
Unions are good in a sense that people won't get r@pe by companies. But sometimes, (most of the time now), Unions are doing more damages than goods. If I have a grocer making more money than I do, then there is some seriously fcuked up issue that needs to be resolved. They just ask for shiets that they think they fcuking deserve, by not getting an education, by being a fcuking slacker and now they demand shiets? WTF, that's why the Feds have minimum wages, and people often get paid accordingly to what their skills are capable of. True that I have to eat, and I can go else where to buy food; but GAS COST MONEY, and if I want to shop somewhere, I will go there and shop. Last I check, this is America, and Jimmy Hoffa still hasn't been found.
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