Isn't this an insult...?

ivol07

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The Grocery Union is on strike right now in California. The Ralphs by my house has picketers in front of all exits and they walk across blocking traffic from coming in and out. Ralphs is not the only business in that Shopping Center. Don't they know that they are hurting all other businesses in the Center? There is also a Rite-Aid, some fast food places, a Hallmark, etc. in the Center. Don't these strikers know that they are already getting paid more than the people that are working in these other establishments, and getting full benefits? They are doing almost exactly the same job as the people in these other places and complaining that they don't get enough. Or that they don't want to pay up to $15 a week for benefits? Come on. If I worked in one the other stores I would be pissed that these cry babies are actually striking over something that they already have so good. I heard on the news this morning that they have better benefits than 96% of the United States and the Union has stated that average pay is between $12-$15 an hour. I know people that went to school for years, or are working in much more demanding jobs that aren't getting paid that much.

How could they expect us to honor their picket line when there is no reason to. Why should I be on their side. All it's going to do is raise the prices of my groceries. Isn't this insulting that they feel they deserve more? Am I being a snob or something by thinking that maybe they don't deserve everything they get?
 

waggy

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Originally posted by: ivol07
The Grocery Union is on strike right now in California. The Ralphs by my house has picketers in front of all exits and they walk across blocking traffic from coming in and out. Ralphs is not the only business in that Shopping Center. Don't they know that they are hurting all other businesses in the Center? There is also a Rite-Aid, some fast food places, a Hallmark, etc. in the Center. Don't these strikers know that they are already getting paid more than the people that are working in these other establishments, and getting full benefits? They are doing almost exactly the same job as the people in these other places and complaining that they don't get enough. Or that they don't want to pay up to $15 a week for benefits? Come on. If I worked in one the other stores I would be pissed that these cry babies are actually striking over something that they already have so good. I heard on the news this morning that they have better benefits than 96% of the United States and the Union has stated that average pay is between $12-$15 an hour. I know people that went to school for years, or are working in much more demanding jobs that aren't getting paid that much.

How could they expect us to honor their picket line when there is no reason to. Why should I be on their side. All it's going to do is raise the prices of my groceries. Isn't this insulting that they feel they deserve more? Am I being a snob or something by thinking that maybe they don't deserve everything they get?

ahh gottta love it when groceery unions go on strike. they block the store and dont let people in. heh yeah thats going to help. It just pisses me off and i go out of my way to shop there while there is a strike.

but this story is nuts. $12-15 a hour? sheesh thats great pay.
 

BigJelly

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Originally posted by: ivol07
The Grocery Union is on strike right now in California. The Ralphs by my house has picketers in front of all exits and they walk across blocking traffic from coming in and out. Ralphs is not the only business in that Shopping Center. Don't they know that they are hurting all other businesses in the Center? There is also a Rite-Aid, some fast food places, a Hallmark, etc. in the Center. Don't these strikers know that they are already getting paid more than the people that are working in these other establishments, and getting full benefits? They are doing almost exactly the same job as the people in these other places and complaining that they don't get enough. Or that they don't want to pay up to $15 a week for benefits? Come on. If I worked in one the other stores I would be pissed that these cry babies are actually striking over something that they already have so good. I heard on the news this morning that they have better benefits than 96% of the United States and the Union has stated that average pay is between $12-$15 an hour. I know people that went to school for years, or are working in much more demanding jobs that aren't getting paid that much.

How could they expect us to honor their picket line when there is no reason to. Why should I be on their side. All it's going to do is raise the prices of my groceries. Isn't this insulting that they feel they deserve more? Am I being a snob or something by thinking that maybe they don't deserve everything they get?

It's simple the union members are like zombies and the heads of the unions tell them what to do--and without thinking the union members do it.

"Dance puppets, Dance." Stewie from Family Guy
 

Nitemare

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Only thing to do is cross the picket line, go inside, purchase a tomato

say, 'O Lord, bless this Thy red tomato that, with it, Thou mayest blow Thine retards to tiny bits in Thy mercy

say, 'First shalt hold up thine tomato. Then, shalt thou count to three. No more. No less. Three shalt be the number thou shalt count, and the number of the counting shall be three. Four shalt thou not count, nor either count thou two, excepting that thou then proceed to three. Five is right out. Once the number three, being the third number, be reached, then, lobbest thou thy red tomato of Vons towards thy foe, who, being naughty in My sight, shall snuff it.'
 

imported_Papi

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Lets rehash again why you give a shït about something that doesnt directly effect you???

you gotta eat right?
 

Jeff7

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Walmart overnights where I live starts you at $8/hr for a stocker; I'm more than that now - up to $9.32/hr, and I pay around $20/wk for various benefits. No strikes there.
 

Jzero

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If they can successfully strike for higer pay or whatever, more power to them. I don't think they should be restricting access to other stores in the strip mall, though. A strike is between 3 parties - management, employees and the consumers that shop there. No one else should be involved.
 

Jzero

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Originally posted by: Jeff7
Walmart overnights where I live starts you at $8/hr for a stocker; I'm more than that now - up to $9.32/hr, and I pay around $20/wk for various benefits. No strikes there.

It's Walmart. No union. You can't have a strike without organized workers. I've never heard of a McDonald's strike either.
 

ivol07

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Originally posted by: yayo
Lets rehash again why you give a shït about something that doesnt directly effect you???

you gotta eat right?

What?

It does directly effect me. I have to cross a picket line to get my groceries, or even if I want to go to Taco Bell in this case. Also, if the Union gets their way I have to pay more for my Groceries.
 

imported_Papi

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Originally posted by: ivol07
Originally posted by: yayo
Lets rehash again why you give a shït about something that doesnt directly effect you???

you gotta eat right?

What?

It does directly effect me. I have to cross a picket line to get my groceries, or even if I want to go to Taco Bell in this case. Also, if the Union gets their way I have to pay more for my Groceries.

So?

Think about that next time you want a raise. Some how, some way your measly raise will also effect the economy, just like their striking will effect the price of chicken.

Still, you gotta eat right?

Go somewhere else to buy food. Why all the belly aching?



 

Rainsford

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Unions are nothing short of a (semi)-monopoly in the labor market. You don't like MS having a huge share of the OS market, right? Well how about businesses that are forced by union contracts to only hire union workers? There's no incentive for the workers to do well since there is little competition, just like monopolies in the business world.

Yes, there is always some person who thinks unions are great. With all due respect, you are wrong. Get off your fat, lazy, union ass and take an economics course.
 

CanOWorms

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Originally posted by: yayo
Originally posted by: ivol07
Originally posted by: yayo
Lets rehash again why you give a shït about something that doesnt directly effect you???

you gotta eat right?

What?

It does directly effect me. I have to cross a picket line to get my groceries, or even if I want to go to Taco Bell in this case. Also, if the Union gets their way I have to pay more for my Groceries.

So?

Think about that next time you want a raise. Some how, some way your measly raise will also effect the economy, just like their striking will effect the price of chicken.

Still, you gotta eat right?

Go somewhere else to buy food. Why all the belly aching?

Why should we go somewhere else to get food just because some of the employees are on strike?
 

Glitchny

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Originally posted by: yayo
Originally posted by: ivol07
Originally posted by: yayo
Lets rehash again why you give a shït about something that doesnt directly effect you???

you gotta eat right?

What?

It does directly effect me. I have to cross a picket line to get my groceries, or even if I want to go to Taco Bell in this case. Also, if the Union gets their way I have to pay more for my Groceries.

So?

Think about that next time you want a raise. Some how, some way your measly raise will also effect the economy, just like their striking will effect the price of chicken.

Still, you gotta eat right?

Go somewhere else to buy food. Why all the belly aching?

i think the point is that they are already overpaid dor doing a very very simple job. And therefore should be beaten in the head with large blunt objects for even thinking about striking, They get paid 3 times minimum wage, and get benifits, to stock shelves?!!! that should be a min wage job with little to no benifits. Unions are retarded.

The workers Union in my town got an entire factory shut down because they wouldnt take a pay cut... options were lose your job for good, take paycut... and the unions decided to go without jobs... therfore a good portion of the people in my town are now unemployed, great move by the unions there
 

Mathcop

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Originally posted by: Nitemare
Only thing to do is cross the picket line, go inside, purchase a tomato

say, 'O Lord, bless this Thy red tomato that, with it, Thou mayest blow Thine retards to tiny bits in Thy mercy

say, 'First shalt hold up thine tomato. Then, shalt thou count to three. No more. No less. Three shalt be the number thou shalt count, and the number of the counting shall be three. Four shalt thou not count, nor either count thou two, excepting that thou then proceed to three. Five is right out. Once the number three, being the third number, be reached, then, lobbest thou thy red tomato of Vons towards thy foe, who, being naughty in My sight, shall snuff it.'


From the book of Armaments. Excellent Nightmare!!!! Or are you really Brother Maynard?

 

imported_Papi

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Originally posted by: CanOWorms
Originally posted by: yayo
Originally posted by: ivol07
Originally posted by: yayo
Lets rehash again why you give a shït about something that doesnt directly effect you???

you gotta eat right?

What?

It does directly effect me. I have to cross a picket line to get my groceries, or even if I want to go to Taco Bell in this case. Also, if the Union gets their way I have to pay more for my Groceries.

So?

Think about that next time you want a raise. Some how, some way your measly raise will also effect the economy, just like their striking will effect the price of chicken.

Still, you gotta eat right?

Go somewhere else to buy food. Why all the belly aching?

Why should we go somewhere else to get food just because some of the employees are on strike?

Well you don't have to, but at the same time no one cares to hear you guys complain about it. They are doing what they feel they need to do. Put yourselves in their position. I'm sure you'd strike too.

Going elsewhere is just another alternative.

 

Glitchny

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Originally posted by: yayo
Originally posted by: CanOWorms
Originally posted by: yayo
Originally posted by: ivol07
Originally posted by: yayo
Lets rehash again why you give a shït about something that doesnt directly effect you???

you gotta eat right?

What?

It does directly effect me. I have to cross a picket line to get my groceries, or even if I want to go to Taco Bell in this case. Also, if the Union gets their way I have to pay more for my Groceries.

So?

Think about that next time you want a raise. Some how, some way your measly raise will also effect the economy, just like their striking will effect the price of chicken.

Still, you gotta eat right?

Go somewhere else to buy food. Why all the belly aching?

Why should we go somewhere else to get food just because some of the employees are on strike?

Well you don't have to, but at the same time no one cares to hear you guys complain about it. They are doing what they feel they need to do. Put yourselves in their position. I'm sure you'd strike too.

Going elsewhere is just another alternative.

NO I WOULDNT STRIKE, i would realize that I am getting paid 3 times what I should and getting benifits, so i would STFU and tell everyone else there to do the same
 

imported_Papi

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Originally posted by: Glitchny
Originally posted by: yayo
Originally posted by: CanOWorms
Originally posted by: yayo
Originally posted by: ivol07
Originally posted by: yayo
Lets rehash again why you give a shït about something that doesnt directly effect you???

you gotta eat right?

What?

It does directly effect me. I have to cross a picket line to get my groceries, or even if I want to go to Taco Bell in this case. Also, if the Union gets their way I have to pay more for my Groceries.

So?

Think about that next time you want a raise. Some how, some way your measly raise will also effect the economy, just like their striking will effect the price of chicken.

Still, you gotta eat right?

Go somewhere else to buy food. Why all the belly aching?

Why should we go somewhere else to get food just because some of the employees are on strike?

Well you don't have to, but at the same time no one cares to hear you guys complain about it. They are doing what they feel they need to do. Put yourselves in their position. I'm sure you'd strike too.

Going elsewhere is just another alternative.

NO I WOULDNT STRIKE, i would realize that I am getting paid 3 times what I should and getting benifits, so i would STFU and tell everyone else there to do the same


I say good day sir!
 

CanOWorms

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Jul 3, 2001
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Originally posted by: yayo
Originally posted by: CanOWorms
Originally posted by: yayo
Originally posted by: ivol07
Originally posted by: yayo
Lets rehash again why you give a shït about something that doesnt directly effect you???

you gotta eat right?

What?

It does directly effect me. I have to cross a picket line to get my groceries, or even if I want to go to Taco Bell in this case. Also, if the Union gets their way I have to pay more for my Groceries.

So?

Think about that next time you want a raise. Some how, some way your measly raise will also effect the economy, just like their striking will effect the price of chicken.

Still, you gotta eat right?

Go somewhere else to buy food. Why all the belly aching?

Why should we go somewhere else to get food just because some of the employees are on strike?

Well you don't have to, but at the same time no one cares to hear you guys complain about it. They are doing what they feel they need to do. Put yourselves in their position. I'm sure you'd strike too.

Going elsewhere is just another alternative.

Well we don't care to hear them complaining either. We're doing what we feel we need to do. We're just on the opposite sides.

If I put myself in their position, I'd realize I shouldn't be on strike. When you have a job with little or no skills and no real special knowledge, you don't have much to bargain with. Middle schoolers could do their jobs. It's not a viable career path. They're jobs for high school students, temporary unemployed people, etc. They're not meant to be life-long, family-supporting jobs in my opinion. To the company they're of almost no value since they can be easily replaced.

Getting a real job is an alternative!
 
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Originally posted by: yayo
Originally posted by: CanOWorms
Originally posted by: yayo
Originally posted by: ivol07
Originally posted by: yayo
Lets rehash again why you give a shït about something that doesnt directly effect you???

you gotta eat right?

What?

It does directly effect me. I have to cross a picket line to get my groceries, or even if I want to go to Taco Bell in this case. Also, if the Union gets their way I have to pay more for my Groceries.

So?

Think about that next time you want a raise. Some how, some way your measly raise will also effect the economy, just like their striking will effect the price of chicken.

Still, you gotta eat right?

Go somewhere else to buy food. Why all the belly aching?

Why should we go somewhere else to get food just because some of the employees are on strike?

Well you don't have to, but at the same time no one cares to hear you guys complain about it. They are doing what they feel they need to do. Put yourselves in their position. I'm sure you'd strike too.

Going elsewhere is just another alternative.

If I was in their position, I wouldn't expect to be paid at their supposed level for a task that a middle school child could do.


 

Jzero

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Oct 10, 1999
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Yes, there is always some person who thinks unions are great. With all due respect, you are wrong. Get off your fat, lazy, union ass and take an economics course.

Did you fail your "economics" course?
Like most everything else in the world, unions are a double-edged sword. It is unions that got American workers out of sweatshops, lobbied for an end to dangerous working conditions and excessive work hours.

Unions are used for both good and bad. Sometimes they fight for fair treatment of workers, sometimes they are simply the antithesis of coporate greed.
 

imported_Papi

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Originally posted by: CanOWorms
Originally posted by: yayo
Originally posted by: CanOWorms
Originally posted by: yayo
Originally posted by: ivol07
Originally posted by: yayo
Lets rehash again why you give a shït about something that doesnt directly effect you???

you gotta eat right?

What?

It does directly effect me. I have to cross a picket line to get my groceries, or even if I want to go to Taco Bell in this case. Also, if the Union gets their way I have to pay more for my Groceries.

So?

Think about that next time you want a raise. Some how, some way your measly raise will also effect the economy, just like their striking will effect the price of chicken.

Still, you gotta eat right?

Go somewhere else to buy food. Why all the belly aching?

Why should we go somewhere else to get food just because some of the employees are on strike?

Well you don't have to, but at the same time no one cares to hear you guys complain about it. They are doing what they feel they need to do. Put yourselves in their position. I'm sure you'd strike too.

Going elsewhere is just another alternative.

Well we don't care to hear them complaining either. We're doing what we feel we need to do. We're just on the opposite sides.

If I put myself in their position, I'd realize I shouldn't be on strike. When you have a job with little or no skills and no real special knowledge, you don't have much to bargain with. Middle schoolers could do their jobs. It's not a viable career path. They're jobs for high school students, temporary unemployed people, etc. They're not meant to be life-long, family-supporting jobs in my opinion. To the company they're of almost no value since they can be easily replaced.

Getting a real job is an alternative!


Riiiiight, you are better than them.

again I say good day to you sir!
 

CanOWorms

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I don't really think of unions much... I'm not for or against them. More power to them if people want to organize. Good for them. If this was an actual skilled worker strike, I probably wouldn't even say anything. But these workers and their strike is just ridiculous!
 

CanOWorms

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Originally posted by: yayo
Originally posted by: CanOWorms
Originally posted by: yayo
Originally posted by: CanOWorms
Originally posted by: yayo
Originally posted by: ivol07
Originally posted by: yayo
Lets rehash again why you give a shït about something that doesnt directly effect you???

you gotta eat right?

What?

It does directly effect me. I have to cross a picket line to get my groceries, or even if I want to go to Taco Bell in this case. Also, if the Union gets their way I have to pay more for my Groceries.

So?

Think about that next time you want a raise. Some how, some way your measly raise will also effect the economy, just like their striking will effect the price of chicken.

Still, you gotta eat right?

Go somewhere else to buy food. Why all the belly aching?

Why should we go somewhere else to get food just because some of the employees are on strike?

Well you don't have to, but at the same time no one cares to hear you guys complain about it. They are doing what they feel they need to do. Put yourselves in their position. I'm sure you'd strike too.

Going elsewhere is just another alternative.

Well we don't care to hear them complaining either. We're doing what we feel we need to do. We're just on the opposite sides.

If I put myself in their position, I'd realize I shouldn't be on strike. When you have a job with little or no skills and no real special knowledge, you don't have much to bargain with. Middle schoolers could do their jobs. It's not a viable career path. They're jobs for high school students, temporary unemployed people, etc. They're not meant to be life-long, family-supporting jobs in my opinion. To the company they're of almost no value since they can be easily replaced.

Getting a real job is an alternative!


Riiiiight, you are better than them.

again I say good day to you sir!

Jobs-wise, almost anyone with one is better than them.

People-wise, no. I can respect the person, but not the job.
 

sygyzy

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Oct 21, 2000
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The supermarket strikers suck. First they make too much money. I used to think they were side jobs and I thought it was weird there were full grown adults working there full time. How could they afford to take care of their kids I thought? Little did I know that veteran checkers made bank!

My work used to pay for 99% of health and now they pay for something like 93%. Well that translates much more than $20 a month (which is the figure I heard they have to start paying a month extra for health). I am not complaining. 93% is better than 0%

Yayo - You make absolutely no sense. Why don't you stop posting in this thread, then you don't have to hear anyone complaining.
 

alkemyst

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Originally posted by: waggy

but this story is nuts. $12-15 a hour? sheesh thats great pay.

yeah they had to have security remove someone applying for temp holiday work in the mall who started screaming about anything less than $15/hr to work a register was robbery
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I must be in the wrong line of work.