Isn't the RIAA considered illegal?

[imported_goku]

I say this in that they're like a monopoly but not quite, they have complete control over the industry but they're not one company, or are they? The RIAA seems like it's a "channel" for music companies to practice unlawful things like price fixing, and making agreements behind company doors, other things that if they came to light, might have the government crawling down their throats...

 

[shortylickens]

Whos crawling down whos throats?

 

[KLin]

http://www.riaa.com/about/default.asp

 

[2cpuminimum]

yes they have been found guilty of racketeering and price fixing. However it is what they do that is illegal, not the existence of the organization itself.

 

[BrokenVisage]

They hold a monopoly over movies/music and should be gangbusted over the head by Roosevelt.

 

[imported_goku]

Originally posted by: KLin
http://www.riaa.com/about/default.asp

I know that but the thing is, with the RIAA, the companies essentially become as "one" which they can then use their resources for unlawful or stupid things.

 

[shortylickens]

Originally posted by: goku

Originally posted by: KLin
http://www.riaa.com/about/default.asp

I know that but the thing is, with the RIAA, the companies essentially become as "one" which they can then use their resources for unlawful or stupid things.

The companies become as "one" when they do legal or smart things. You have to understand what a corporation is. They were built to circumvent the monoply laws of old. Corporations are owned by shareholders, not one bussinessman. And you can have multiple corps under a bigger corp. Thats why its not a monopoly.

As for your point about illegal activities, anyone can commit a crime. Not just companies.
If you dont want to go to jail, just get a really good lawyer or have friends in high places. It works for most of our politicians.

 

[KLin]

Originally posted by: goku

Originally posted by: KLin
http://www.riaa.com/about/default.asp

I know that but the thing is, with the RIAA, the companies essentially become as "one" which they can then use their resources for unlawful or stupid things.

That doesn't mean they're a monopoly though.

In economics, a monopoly (from the Greek monos, one + polein, to sell) is defined as a persistent market situation where there is only one provider of a kind of product or service. Monopolies are characterized by a lack of economic competition for the good or service that they provide, a lack of viable substitute goods, as well as high barriers to entry for potential competitors on the market.

From here

The RIAA is an association of many record label companies that share the same vision of their industry.

 

[ElFenix]

ummm... no, industry associations are not illegal.

 

[brxndxn]

Hopefully, more people will become rampant pirates with the tenacious goal of making sure the music industry sees ZERO of their money. When that happens, and the music industry as of now fails, a new industry will spring up... showing the power of capitalism. The new industry will be better in every way.

I cannot wait for the RIAA to fail. They are crooks.

 

[KLin]

Originally posted by: brxndxn
Hopefully, more people will become rampant pirates with the tenacious goal of making sure the music industry sees ZERO of their money. When that happens, and the music industry as of now fails, a new industry will spring up... showing the power of capitalism. The new industry will be better in every way.

I cannot wait for the RIAA to fail. They are crooks.

You're an idiot.

 

[imported_goku]

Originally posted by: brxndxn
Hopefully, more people will become rampant pirates with the tenacious goal of making sure the music industry sees ZERO of their money. When that happens, and the music industry as of now fails, a new industry will spring up... showing the power of capitalism. The new industry will be better in every way.

I cannot wait for the RIAA to fail. They are crooks.

Talk about wishful thinking, what makes you think that the practices of killing the old industry won't happen to the "new industry"?

 

[Malfeas]

Nothing is illegal if your organization/company is wealthy enough to bribe.........I mean lobby members of congress for their support. Don't you trust your elected officials???

 

[CKent]

"Contributing" (ie. bribing) to politicians' election campaigns is why they get away with what they do. We're allowed a backup copy of our music & movies by law, yet DVDs and new CDs have copy protection I just "harrrr it up, matey"... fight fire with fire.

 

[Biggerhammer]

Somehow, I don't see boasting about my illegal activities on a message board as the most intelligent move

The RIAA will fall. They can't stop technology, no matter how many senators they own. They will obstruct for a period of time- months, years, decades, who knows- then fall.

 

[Nitemare]

It's only an illegal monopoly if you don't have enough money to pay off government officials...

 

[CKent]

Originally posted by: Biggerhammer
Somehow, I don't see boasting about my illegal activities on a message board as the most intelligent move

I was, of course, referring to my pirate vs. ninja LARP hobby.

 

[ElFenix]

Originally posted by: RBachman
"Contributing" (ie. bribing) to politicians' election campaigns is why they get away with what they do. We're allowed a backup copy of our music & movies by law, yet DVDs and new CDs have copy protection I just "harrrr it up, matey"... fight fire with fire.

someone should give me the citation of that law

 

[0roo0roo]

well the last time the music industry was prosecuted didn't they just settle without admitting fault?

 

[brxndxn]

Originally posted by: KLin

Originally posted by: brxndxn
Hopefully, more people will become rampant pirates with the tenacious goal of making sure the music industry sees ZERO of their money. When that happens, and the music industry as of now fails, a new industry will spring up... showing the power of capitalism. The new industry will be better in every way.

I cannot wait for the RIAA to fail. They are crooks.

You're an idiot.

You suck at arguing. How about a better counter argument or should I start making fun of your ugly face?

 

[aeroguy]

Originally posted by: ElFenix
ummm... no, industry associations are not illegal.

Exactly. Many industries have them. Another example is the ATA (air transport association) that airlines belong to.

 

[Wahsapa]

it would be illegal if they didnt own a % of our government

 

[Wahsapa]

Originally posted by: ElFenix

Originally posted by: RBachman
"Contributing" (ie. bribing) to politicians' election campaigns is why they get away with what they do. We're allowed a backup copy of our music & movies by law, yet DVDs and new CDs have copy protection I just "harrrr it up, matey"... fight fire with fire.

someone should give me the citation of that law

you've really never heard of that? for the longest time iv been hearing this(you get a back up copy), and while never actually reading the law iv seen this repeated everywhere, and if it wasn't true, i think someone(riaa) would have made a fuss over it by now.

 

[Bateluer]

Originally posted by: brxndxn

Originally posted by: KLin

Originally posted by: brxndxn
Hopefully, more people will become rampant pirates with the tenacious goal of making sure the music industry sees ZERO of their money. When that happens, and the music industry as of now fails, a new industry will spring up... showing the power of capitalism. The new industry will be better in every way.

I cannot wait for the RIAA to fail. They are crooks.

You're an idiot.

You suck at arguing. How about a better counter argument or should I start making fun of your ugly face?

I agree with brxndxn, on both accounts.

The tighter the RIAA squeezes its fingers, the more people will slip through. The tighter the regulations they try to push through, the more people will try to circumvent those regs.

There are a few record labels that are not members of the RIAA, but they usually get blacklisted by the RIAA, who does not want people to know they exist.

 

[CravenTacos]

I say we organize a mass group of libertarian technophiles and just take over france. just about the only thing we're missing here in the states is nero playing his fiddle signifying the end of our empire....but hey im a pessimist