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Isn't it time for a Pregnancy Law?

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Narmer

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While it is a known fact that men hold a lot of power in this country, it is also a fact that women could theoretically acquire those powers as well. However, this isn't true the other way around. If a woman gets pregnant, she holds enormous power over the man, which could be a life-changing event for him. As we all know, power can lead to corruption, which women have a monopoly on in this particular situation. If not, then the two could sit down and have a logical discussion on which way they want to go: having a child or having an abortion. But the conversation is uni-directional, where the man is told what's going to happen. In return, he either has to raise a child he does not want or break the law.

Shouldn't we change the law so that a man has to give written approval for the go-ahead on a pregnancy, and only then is he liable for future expenditures? Those should put enough pressure on the female as to whether or not she should carry out the pregnancy, resulting in something that's fair and balanced.

EDIT: THIS ISN'T ABOUT CONDOMS OR PROTECTION. IT'S ABOUT EQUAL RIGHTS


 
No. Your choice is when you decide to either wrap it up or you don't. After that, it's her body and she can do what she wants.
 
Originally posted by: Balt
No. Your choice is when you decide to either wrap it up or you don't. After that, it's her body and she can do what she wants.
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Yeah, but condoms break. Even then it's still her choice. Going to extremes, after sex a man can throw his condom away. The woman can get it out of the trash and somehow impregnate herself. Even in a wild circumstance like that, the father is still responsible, I believe.

EDIT: Of course she can do as she likes, but she would be responsible for her actions. Both parties shouldn't be. Both parties did not agree to have a child.
 
How about if we just shoot the sperm donor 5 times through the chest since he didn't exercise good judgement or personal responsibility.
 
Originally posted by: Narmer
Originally posted by: Balt
No. Your choice is when you decide to either wrap it up or you don't. After that, it's her body and she can do what she wants.
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Yeah, but condoms break. Even then it's still her choice. Going to extremes, after sex a man can throw his condom away. The woman can get it out of the trash and somehow impregnate herself. Even in a wild circumstance like that, the father is still responsible, I believe.
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while unlikely yes they are.

also recent lawsuits have had guys who donate sperm getting nailed for child support etc
 
Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
How about if we just shoot the sperm donor 5 times through the chest since he didn't exercise good judgement or personal responsibility.
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Condoms don't break? Who's fault is that? See my previous post.
 
Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: Narmer
Originally posted by: Balt
No. Your choice is when you decide to either wrap it up or you don't. After that, it's her body and she can do what she wants.
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Yeah, but condoms break. Even then it's still her choice. Going to extremes, after sex a man can throw his condom away. The woman can get it out of the trash and somehow impregnate herself. Even in a wild circumstance like that, the father is still responsible, I believe.
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while unlikely yes they are.

also recent lawsuits have had guys who donate sperm getting nailed for child support etc
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Is that even legal? Do you have a link?

 
Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
How about if we just shoot the sperm donor 5 times through the chest since he didn't exercise good judgement or personal responsibility.
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how bout - don't stick it in someone you don't trust? damn...I can't believe i came up with that all by myself, so complicated to think about.
 
Originally posted by: Balt
No. Your choice is when you decide to either wrap it up or you don't. After that, it's her body and she can do what she wants.
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She can have the kid if she wants, but you can do with you want with your money.

If she thinks that she can just get knocked up and get a free paycheck, then good luck finding Ron Mexico.
 
If you don't want to risk having kids, don't have sex. Otherwise, accept the risk. Proper use of protection is playing well in your favor. It isn't 100%, but it's still pretty damn reliable.
 
Originally posted by: Narmer
Originally posted by: Balt
No. Your choice is when you decide to either wrap it up or you don't. After that, it's her body and she can do what she wants.
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Yeah, but condoms break. Even then it's still her choice. Going to extremes, after sex a man can throw his condom away. The woman can get it out of the trash and somehow impregnate herself. Even in a wild circumstance like that, the father is still responsible, I believe.

EDIT: Of course she can do as she likes, but she would be responsible for her actions. Both parties shouldn't be. Both parties did not agree to have a child.
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Realistically I think a very small percentage of men would accept that responsibility if given a choice. A higher percentage of women could probably not bring themselves to get an abortion because it might conflict with their morals.

Just gotta be as careful as you can about where and how you stick it.
 
Originally posted by: Mellman
Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
How about if we just shoot the sperm donor 5 times through the chest since he didn't exercise good judgement or personal responsibility.
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how bout - don't stick it in someone you don't trust? damn...I can't believe i came up with that all by myself, so complicated to think about.
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Nah, killing him is easier. And it sends a clear message to all the other would be sperm donors who want to duck out on personal responsibility. Guess he won't do that again!
 
Man and woman DO have a choice: whether to have unprotected sex! Yes, she can take the pill and then later lie about going off the pill...but you have the choice to put on the condom or not.
 
Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
Man and woman DO have a choice: whether to have unprotected sex! Yes, she can take the pill and then later lie about going off the pill...but you have the choice to put on the condom or not.
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This isn't about CONDOMS or protection. This is about personal responsability for both parties. Why should the woman have all the power in a situation like this? Why Can't a man have some say in the outcome.
 
Originally posted by: Balt
No. Your choice is when you decide to either wrap it up or you don't. After that, it's her body and she can do what she wants.
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essentially

what makes you think a woman wants to use pregnancy as leverage? the law shouldn't be set up to punish all women for what a very small percentage of them might do.

when having sex you know there is a chance of pregnancy, regardless of how small it is. if that chance materialized, you are stuck with the consequences as you took the gamble.

i think the problem with abortion is that states or pro-life individuals use the state's interest in protecting the potentiality of life as a reason to strike down abortion laws but there are other methods that can be used if the end goal is to convince women to avoid abortions (i.e. the state providing more assistance for pregnant mothers and for single mothers; if the citizens of the state are not willing to have their taxes raised to support such an agenda, then they shouldn't have a problem with women getting abortions).
 
The male has a great deal of say in the matter. He can say "no thanks", and keep his pants zipped. It's up to you to understand that when you have sex with a woman (even one you don't like), you risk making a baby. If that happens you will support that child for 18 years, end of story and no way out.
You are now armed with enough information to be certain that you will NEVER have to pay child support for a child you don't want, it can't happen without your consent.
If you just have to get out there and screw around, understand that your gambling, and sometimes when you gamble, you lose.
 
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