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Islamaphobic attacks taking place inside America!

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Blue_Max said:
Hey, I've said dozens of times on here, pick up the quran and flip past the happy fluffies in the beginning ~10% and actually read it for yourself.
Don't believe my opinion OR ANYONE ELSE'S, pro or con, until you do.
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There are two narratives in the quran. Just like in the Holy Bible.

I mean, Old Testament God was all about bashing children against rocks.

New Testament God was about turning the other cheek.

But, hey, Muslims BAD!

Also: Benghazi.
 
Vic said:
Actually, what people don't like about douchebags like yourselves is that you imagine you have some kind of God-given right to tell other people what they believe, even when what you believe about their beliefs is total bullshit.
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Now you're just desperately hurling false accusations to prevent the discussion you don't want and completely ignoring all world events showing that your "cherry picking" is being used more by muslims to incite violence than it is by detractors.

So who's the douchebag?
 
Blue_Max said:
Now you're just desperately hurling false accusations to prevent the discussion you don't want and completely ignoring all world events showing that your "cherry picking" is being used more by muslims to incite violence than it is by detractors.

So who's the douchebag?
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You. Because you don't actually care about Islam. If all the Muslims in the entire world were to suddenly disappear, you'd just find another religious group to persecute, like Mormons. Because what you care about is trying to control what other people believe.
 
Vic said:
You. Because you don't actually care about Islam. If all the Muslims in the entire world were to suddenly disappear, you'd just find another religious group to persecute, like Mormons. Because what you care about is trying to control what other people believe.
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Wrong on all counts. You're projecting.
 
realibrad said:
No because if you just did that, then you will get attacks that were not motivated by their religious belief. You would be mislead as to the cause. If you wanted to do that, then you would need to try to adjust for motivation. If the attack was motivated by religious beliefs then you could call it Muslim or Christian.

That was not the issue being talked about though. What I responded to was the idea that pools are more dangerous than Muslim terrorists. It's true you are far more likely to die in a pool, but that does not mean its more dangerous.
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I mentioned the religious motivation part. We don't want to mislead anyone
What's our numbers look like?
Terror attacks motivated by God, Muslim vs Christian, in the US, adjusted for pop difference

I think we already agree that your far more likely to be killed by a Christian terrorist because of the pop difference
 
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Blue_Max said:
That's what happens when people react on only the most cursory glance at a subject. They see Mormon along with 'Jesus Christ / Latter Day Saints' and end the thought process there. "See? Right there in the name! Done!"

With even a little more research into both for comparison, one can see the vast differences between them - and eventually how the only consistency between Mormonism and any other Christian division is the name alone.

This is also why we have liberal types defending islam despite the ideology (so much more than just a religion) being utterly incompatible with their own ideologies. They are usually ignorant of those incompatibilities because they refuse to dig any deeper than the very surface of the subject.

I often wonder if they're aware of why they choose to do this... my best guess is the whole "never question us!" attitude comes back to themselves as "never question - don't rock the boat!"... which would explain why they turn on each other so often.
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Have you ever done any research into your turd word Islamophobic?
Your basically a stage 5 Islamophobe
 
Orignal Earl said:
I mentioned the religious motivation part. We don't want to mislead anyone
What's our numbers look like?
Terror attacks motivated by God, Muslim vs Christian, in the US, adjusted for pop difference

I think we already agree that your far more likely to be killed by a Christian terrorist because of the pop difference
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Define Christian terrorism for me, and Ill dig up the numbers. So far as I remember, there are actually less acts done by Christians that were motivated by religion. Many of the things done are hate crimes by members of groups like the KKK. The KKK is not inherently a religious group, so including those would be incorrect to me.

All of this is apparently pointless though, because you said that you cannot compare religious groups because they are too broad. You really dont want to address the conflict you presented do you?
 
Vic said:
You. Because you don't actually care about Islam. If all the Muslims in the entire world were to suddenly disappear, you'd just find another religious group to persecute, like Mormons. Because what you care about is trying to control what other people believe.
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You are completely out of line in your comment.

This is in part why this forum is dying a slow death.

Enjoy your elite status on a dying forum.
 
cubby1223 said:
You are completely out of line in your comment.

This is in part why this forum is dying a slow death.

Enjoy your elite status on a dying forum.
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They made me an elite member here back in 2004 IIRC. If you don't like it, bring it up with the mods.
 
realibrad said:
Define Christian terrorism for me, and Ill dig up the numbers. So far as I remember, there are actually less acts done by Christians that were motivated by religion. Many of the things done are hate crimes by members of groups like the KKK. The KKK is not inherently a religious group, so including those would be incorrect to me.

All of this is apparently pointless though, because you said that you cannot compare religious groups because they are too broad. You really dont want to address the conflict you presented do you?
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Christian terrorists like the Army of God, I agree the KKK wouldn't count
Which conflict am I not addressing?
 
Captain Picard said:
Is dhimmitude comfortable for you, Earl?

It must be. You sure carry a lot of water for muslims, but pretty much no-one else.
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I live in a world surrounded by and run by Conservative Christians.
It's not too bad, things are changing slowly.
There are some stores open on Sunday, but I still can't go see a stripper
 
Orignal Earl said:
Christian terrorists like the Army of God, I agree the KKK wouldn't count
Which conflict am I not addressing?
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The one I pointed out multiple times now.

Post #35

A proper comparison would be Muslim terrorists vs Christian terrorists, not a small subsection of Christianity like the Mormons
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I then point out how there is a huge representation issue there, so choosing a group that is more inline with the size of US Muslims would be better. You then counter with the following in post #51.

I don't think you should be grouping all Muslims or Christians together in the first place.
There is a lot of different thinking/interpretation between all the different sects of Islam or Christianity
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So, first it was you, you should lump in all Christians and compare them. Then it was You cant lump in all people of a religious group, they are too different.

I explained this in post #57. I will answer the other part with data in the next post.
 
Vic said:
Are you implying that a single American citizen named Edward Archer is representative of the religious beliefs of all 1.6 billion Muslims worldwide?
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I was mocking the OP. By his logic, this is a genocide against cops or whities.
 
You know, its actually quite hard to find Christian terrorist acts. There are the few abortion attacks but they are very few and far between. What I do find is a bunch of people saying there are terrorists that are Christian, but I don't think that applies to what I am looking for.

Can anyone help?
 
Ackmed said:
I was mocking the OP. By his logic, this is a genocide against cops or whities.
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Logic requires proof.

How many cops were assaulted by Muslims in the last 10 years?

How many Sikhs were assaulted by people thinking they were muslims in the last 10 years? (it's linked up in the thread)

Mocking fail!
 
realibrad said:
The KKK is not inherently a religious group, so including those would be incorrect to me.
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i suggest you read a KKK application and then tell us that a primary requirement for membership is not being a Christian/Catholic and believing in Jesus.
 
realibrad said:
Define Christian terrorism for me, and Ill dig up the numbers. So far as I remember, there are actually less acts done by Christians that were motivated by religion. Many of the things done are hate crimes by members of groups like the KKK. The KKK is not inherently a religious group, so including those would be incorrect to me.
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Just as an 'fyi', they certainly seem to think that they are a Christian group:

"The White Camelia Knights of the Ku Klux Klan is a Christian Identity Klan. I realize that most people have no understanding into what Christian Identity means.

Identity Christian simply implies that we identify our race as being the true descendants of the Israelite people. I understand that most people have been educated to believe that the jewish people are God’s chosen people. Christians have even gone as far as to call themselves judeo-christians, they become extremely hostile at the Klan whenever this subject is mentioned. But, we are followers of Christ and even if our beliefs are unpopular, they are still correct. I am constantly told that Christ was a jew. That Moses and Abraham were jews, but, this belief is incorrect."

http://www.wckkkk.org/identity.html


 "The president of a Virginia Ku Klux Klan group claims that the KKK is a faith-based Christian organization that does not condone violence.

"We don't hate people because of their race. We are a Christian organization," Frank Ancona, the imperial wizard of the Traditional American Knights of the KKK, told NBC 12, distancing himself from the Klan's violent history, asserting that he is seeking to "set the record straight."

http://www.christianpost.com/news/k...n-claims-the-klan-is-not-a-hate-group-116614/

"Bringing a Message of Hope and Deliverance to White Christian America! A Message of Love NOT Hate!"

"America, Our Nation is Under Judgement from God!"

"Keep loving your heritage and keep witnessing to others that there is a better way than a war torn, violent, wicked, socialist, new world order. That way is the Christian way - law and order - love of family - love of nation. These are the principles of western Christian civilization. There is a war to destroy these things. Pray that our people see the error of their ways and regain a sense of loyalty. Repent America! Be faithful my fellow believers. "

https://www.kkk.com
 
mysticjbyrd said:
You can't, because you never had a leg to stand on to begin with.
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You're not bringing any argument to the table, that's why it can't be rebutted. You're just asserting while ignoring the points I brought up.
The religion branched off from another sect of christianity! Their church even has christ in the name for crying out loud.
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What's in a name? Who cares what the name is? If I describe you as a fat Chinese man with red hair I can't be talking about you. If I impersonate you and take your name does that mean I am really you? What does the name have to do with identity? Zip

Their god is one of an infinite number of gods, Christians believe in one God. How could those things be the same?
You clearly seem like a xtian taking offense. Why do you think your sect is more prestigious?
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No I am not taking offense, you're factually WRONG. Mormons aren't "Christian" in any meaningful sense, period.
Do you think your book of fairy tales is better, because it's older?
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Wait a minute, are you admitting that they aren't Christian?
 
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