ISIS gives out pamphlets on rules for female slaves

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http://www.cnn.com/2014/12/12/world/meast/isis-justification-female-slaves/index.html?hpt=wo_bn8

Some highlights.

Can you take non-Muslim women and children captive? Yes, says ISIS.

Can you have sex with them, even prepubescent girls? Yes, according to the Islamist extremist group.

Can you sell them or give them as gifts to others? The answer is yes, once again.

In the document, for instance, it is explained that capturing women is permissible if they are "nonbelievers." It adds, "Female slaves are the women that Muslims took from their enemies."


"If she was a virgin, he (the owner) can have intercourse with her immediately after the ownership is fulfilled," ISIS explains. "If she was not a virgin, her uterus must be purified (wait for her period to be sure she is not pregnant.)"



There are other rules as well, like that two men who co-own a captive can't both have sex with her and that a man can't have intercourse with his wife's slave.


As to girls: "It is permissible to have intercourse with the female slave who hasn't reached puberty if she is fit for intercourse," the document reads. "However, if she is not fit for intercourse, he (the owner ) can only enjoy her without intercourse."

Article doesn't explain what the criteria is for a prepubescent to have intercourse though.

In response to the question of whether a female slave can buy her freedom, the answer is, "Yes she can."


At least they can buy their way out of slavery. Somehow . . . I guess.


"This argument is plainly wrong, hypocritical and astonishingly ahistorical, relying on male fantasies inspired by stories from the days of imperial Islam," said Freamon. "It is also an affront to right-thinking Muslims everywhere and a criminal perversion of Islamic law, particularly its primary source, the glorious Quran."

A much more elegant response than my own 'You disgusting shitheads.'
 

Dari

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Just another flavor-of-the-month terror group. Pedophiles, no less. For an organization that's known for making slick propaganda, this cannot be good for their image.
 

1prophet

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Just another flavor-of-the-month terror group. Pedophiles, no less. For an organization that's known for making slick propaganda, this cannot be good for their image.

You mean like when they were worried about their image while they were conducting public beheadings?
 

Blanky

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Good ole' Islam, spreading peace and justice across the land.

/queue apologists
 
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trenchfoot

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10th Century cherished old time customs in a 21st Century world.

Can't get better than that as far as the modern tech savvy IS male is concerned. And all this with a whole lot more in store when they finally get to go to that afterlife filled with virgins, wine and immortality.

They must be the envy of every guy in the middle east and the DPRK.
 

gevorg

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CIA torture camps would love to take some pointers from these pamphlets.
 

shira

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Just another flavor-of-the-month terror group. Pedophiles, no less. For an organization that's known for making slick propaganda, this cannot be good for their image.
Unfortunately, these "policy declarations" WILL attract tons of recruits, which is probably the whole point of releasing this document.
 

Dari

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Unfortunately, these "policy declarations" WILL attract tons of recruits, which is probably the whole point of releasing this document.

I don't believe that. How can fucking children be attractive? Or even having a slave? How the fuck is that attractive? It's disgusting and I believe it'll lead to a schism within that terror organization. I mean, there are even women joining ISIS. Will they want to be slaves? And what about the young men? How many among them don't have mothers and sisters and whatnot?
 

Jaskalas

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Did Dari really ask how slavery can be attractive to the slave master?

That's just... pick up a history book man. The abolition of slavery is a modern contrast to the entirety of human existence. Today's civilization is cherished precisely because of its modern values of freedom and liberty. The protection of those liberties is a constant vigilance against evil men who wish to turn back the clock.
 

shira

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I don't believe that. How can fucking children be attractive? Or even having a slave? How the fuck is that attractive? It's disgusting and I believe it'll lead to a schism within that terror organization. I mean, there are even women joining ISIS. Will they want to be slaves? And what about the young men? How many among them don't have mothers and sisters and whatnot?
You want to know how the prospect of being able to seize as his sex-slave any beautiful young non-Muslim woman he encounters could possibly be "attractive" to a young man whose life is shit? (And remember, what constitutes a "Muslim woman" is based on the ISIS definition of "Muslim".) And you don't believe there are tons of young men who secretly desire to have sex with underage girls?

What fantasy-world do you live in?
 
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Greenman

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CIA torture camps would love to take some pointers from these pamphlets.

A good manager will take ideas from anyone.

Related note: Where are the CIA torture camps located? Are they used for some purpose or are they simply for entertainment?
 

Darwin333

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Well at least they have rules.

I'm curious, a man can't have sex with his wifes slave but what if he is married and it's his slave, is he free to bang away? What about a 3 some with the wife, is that cool?
 

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I don't believe that. How can fucking children be attractive? Or even having a slave? How the fuck is that attractive? It's disgusting and I believe it'll lead to a schism within that terror organization. I mean, there are even women joining ISIS. Will they want to be slaves? And what about the young men? How many among them don't have mothers and sisters and whatnot?

It's not all women, it's the non-Muslim ones. Whom they don't seem to view as worthy of the most basic of human rights. The women they take as sex slaves, the men they just kill.
 

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I don't believe that. How can fucking children be attractive? Or even having a slave? How the fuck is that attractive? It's disgusting and I believe it'll lead to a schism within that terror organization. I mean, there are even women joining ISIS. Will they want to be slaves? And what about the young men? How many among them don't have mothers and sisters and whatnot?

If I could only repeat justifications out of Afghanistan for raping boys. Besides you don't need to believe us, just check out the many news stories and videos with first hand accounts of what happened to the Yahzidis on that mountain top. You can't fake the pure fear in their eyes.

I have to admit I thoroughly enjoy the "kill cam" videos out there of these guys getting turned into vapor if their lucky, the revelation of these "rules" is just another of many reasons why these animals need to be put down.

And how about them Kurds? Can we finally support them unequivocally? Let's make up for mistakes and ensure they have their own country? I bet they would be happy to host a US Military base.
 

Dari

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Did Dari really ask how slavery can be attractive to the slave master?

That's just... pick up a history book man. The abolition of slavery is a modern contrast to the entirety of human existence. Today's civilization is cherished precisely because of its modern values of freedom and liberty. The protection of those liberties is a constant vigilance against evil men who wish to turn back the clock.

What is difficult to understand? ALL of these fighters come from nation-states that have banned slavery and most ban pedophilia. Therefore, they know it is morally reprehensible. And, again, most of these fighters are young and idealistic. To go from using facebook, twitter, and arguing about how muslims are "oppressed" to having slaves takes some serious mental gymnastic. That is why I believe it'll cause a schism. Slavery simply is not accepted in any society. To accept it because some fake caliph says so must fuck with some of these fighters' minds.
 
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What is difficult to understand? ALL of these fighters come from nation-states that have banned slavery and most ban pedophilia. Therefore, they know it is morally reprehensible. And, again, most of these fighters are young and idealistic. To go from using facebook, twitter, and arguing about how muslims are "oppressed" to having slaves takes some serious mental gymnastic. That is why I believe it'll cause a schism. Slavery simply is not accepted in any society. To accept it because some fake caliph says so must fuck with some of these fighters' minds.

I guess you forgot early American history when it was accepted? And were not the only ones. Many societies over human history had acceptance of slavery.