ISIS announces birth of new caliphate

[Thebobo]

This isis event just happens to be occurring when we have a pro-Islamic president in office.

obama sent weapons to egypt.

obama eased trade sanctions on iran.

obama has snubbed and isolated Israel.

My opinion, the best move for isis is to invade Pakistan and overthrow the existing government. Seize the nukes Pakistan has, then use those nukes on nations who resist.

How clever of you to link togther totaly unrelated events to ISIS.

But your right its all Obamas fault.

 

[Texashiker]

But your right its all Obamas fault.

It is not obamas fault. The fault lays at the feet of those who voted for obama. They elected a community organizer rather than a leader.

Only time will tell if this isis group will follow through with its threats. If isis truly wants to found a new islamic state, as soon as they spread out of iraq the world will have to take action.

Unlike in 1990 we no longer have a president who is willing to kick ass and take names later.

Instead of a president who is willing to kick some ass, we have a president who tries to appease various Islamic nations.

If the united States does not take action against isis, who will?

 

[K1052]

My opinion, the best move for isis is to invade Pakistan and overthrow the existing government. Seize the nukes Pakistan has, then use those nukes on nations who resist.

You obviously don't know shit about this part of the world. If you think that Iran or even Pakistan would roll over for them like the useless Iraqi government you'd be pretty far wrong.

 

[Texashiker]

You obviously don't know shit about this part of the world. If you think that Iran or even Pakistan would roll over for them like the useless Iraqi government you'd be pretty far wrong.

Did I say roll over? No I did not.

If isis goes north, west or south nato and the united states will have to take action.

Who is Pakistan allied with?

 

[Orignal Earl]

My opinion, the best move for isis is to invade Pakistan and overthrow the existing government. Seize the nukes Pakistan has, then use those nukes on nations who resist.

TiP Taliban in Pakistan has already laid claim to them, when they get them, they will nuke ISIS

 

[K1052]

Did I say roll over? No I did not.

If isis goes north, west or south nato and the united states will have to take action.

Who is Pakistan allied with?

They're pretty well hemmed in by people who don't exactly agree with them. Jordan, Saudi Arabia, Turkey, or Iran would obliterate them instantly if they stepped foot into their territories. Pakistan is allied with Pakistan...they would be quite merciless to outsiders showing up in their country to cause this kind of trouble.

 

[Texashiker]

TiP Taliban in Pakistan has already laid claim to them, when they get them, they will nuke ISIS

They're pretty well hemmed in by people who don't exactly agree with them. Jordan, Saudi Arabia, Turkey, or Iran would obliterate them instantly if they stepped foot into their territories. Pakistan is allied with Pakistan...they would be quite merciless to outsiders showing up in their country to cause this kind of trouble.

I hope yall are right.

 

[Orignal Earl]

Did I say roll over? No I did not.

If isis goes north, west or south nato and the united states will have to take action.
Who is Pakistan allied with?

You figure ISIS will conquer Iran, then destroy the US in Afghanistan, then move freely into Pakistan for nukes.

Perspective is everything

 

[Orignal Earl]

I hope yall are right.

I'm not right.

 

[momeNt]

I'm not calling for war right now because I'm not sure we would win.

It might be safe to just elect another Muslim as president, it might be better to be allied with Islam than to take on what is essentially the rest of the world by looking at that map.

 

[NTMBK]

Aw mah GAWD!!

Thur is-a WUT in the Whiate Haws?!?

You accuse him of being prejudiced by breaking into a prejudiced stereotype of what you think a Texan is like... nice one.

 

[AnitaPeterson]

I'm not calling for war right now because I'm not sure we would win.

It might be safe to just elect another Muslim as president, it might be better to be allied with Islam than to take on what is essentially the rest of the world by looking at that map.

I am not sure what you're trying to say here... Are you a troll, or really, REALLY ... naive?

Do you seriously think the world - particularly those countries targeted by ISIL - would just stand by and roll over under a militant Islamic yoke? No matter what the Americans will do, Europe still has its own fangs. Do not underestimate the Balkan states - they remember the Ottoman Empire, and have no taste for a repeat experience. Once religion comes center stage, these people will draw blood. Remember Yugoslavia.

 

[OBLAMA2009]

i have no problem with this. when the us can go around the world invading sovereign countries with impunity, murdering people with drones, and creating a police surveilance state in america, it has way too much power. you need a [nuclear armed] counter balance to the us around the world and it makes sense to have that in every part of the world asia (china), europe (russia), middle east (isis). this nonsense of labelling anyone who doesnt submit to america a "terrorist" is ridiculous, its been wa over used

 

[OBLAMA2009]

I'm not calling for war right now because I'm not sure we would win.

It might be safe to just elect another Muslim as president, it might be better to be allied with Islam than to take on what is essentially the rest of the world by looking at that map.

the reason isis is so powerful is that they have the support of the masses, which the us puppet government in iraq does not. america doesnt support real democracy in iraq, because real democracy wouldnt mean a pro us govt, peeps in the middle east have a right to run their countries with their own interests in mind, not americas or american corporations

 

[Victorian Gray]

I do see a state of israel in that map.

Looks like isis is going to take whatever land it wants.

Because there is nobody in the world powerful enough to stop them.

Prepare yourself as the end is nigh!

 

[Nebor]

ISIS encroachment on Saudi Arabia would trigger a US response. The world can't see how inept the Saudi military is or the balance between SA & Iran gets thrown off.

 

[Orignal Earl]

You can find as many news stories about Saudi support of ISIS as not

 

[Zebo]

I don't see the problem. Radical Muslims killing Radical Muslims for a long time is in our interest. I like how we arm all sides. Obama is asking for 500m more in arms to give syria fundis while we claim we are against them next door. Russia getting to mix with more arms. Region should be an inferno for a very long time.

 

[Texashiker]

Because there is nobody in the world powerful enough to stop them.

Prepare yourself as the end is nigh!

Troll, troll, troll your boat gently down the stream,,,,,.

isis is like any other gang of thugs. They will be dealt with as such.

The question I have, does obama have the balls to handle the situation, or is Putin going to step in and save the day.

 

[Whiskey16]

the reason isis is so powerful is that they have the support of the masses...

The main recent results in Iraq are due to a large scale Sunni uprising against the central government. As the so-called Al-Quaeda-in-Iraq, ISIS is a bit player, and relative side-actor that's well versed in self-promoting propaganda that goes well beyond its own practical ability, capabilities, and accomplishments.

Much of the media and unfortunately some naïve foreign affairs notables have been trolled into propping us this ISIS as the steamrolling juggernaut that it is not. It is a bit-player following and marginally using the swaying tides of more significant, numerous, and influential actors/groups in the population that have long been marginalised by the Shia dominated central government... Much of this goes back to the idiocy of the US and Britain with their criminally and incompetent warfare into Iraq, followed by the occupational disbanding/ostracising of the massive and influential Sunni segments from the population out of the military and government.

Iraq, as stitched by Britain, was always going to have some level of ethnic tensions and strife. In rate and veracity, the bloody Yanks exacerbated this to the extreme.

 

[Victorian Gray]

Troll, troll, troll your boat gently down the stream,,,,,.

isis is like any other gang of thugs. They will be dealt with as such.

The question I have, does obama have the balls to handle the situation, or is Putin going to step in and save the day.

Babies!

 

[Zebo]

ISIS encroachment on Saudi Arabia would trigger a US response. The world can't see how inept the Saudi military is or the balance between SA & Iran gets thrown off.

Yup. We make so much money from corrupt Saudis (we built Saudi Arabia and still are... go to Halliburton job postings for example) and have oil on demand. Saudi is our real red line.

 

[Whiskey16]

I don't see the problem. Muslims killing Muslims for a long time is in our interest. I like how we arm all sides. Obama is asking for 500m more in arms to give syria fundis while we claim we are against them next door. Russia getting to mix with more arms. Region should be an inferno for a very long time.

For you, only relative good can come out of populations raised and trained with violence and strife, eh?

Stupid.

Bigotry and hatred leading to cheerleading for genocide of your hated group of the day... Jews in the past.... Muslims are the current popular par-de-course.

 

[Orignal Earl]

I don't see the problem. Muslims killing Muslims for a long time is in our interest. I like how we arm all sides. Obama is asking for 500m more in arms to give syria fundis while we claim we are against them next door. Russia getting to mix with more arms. Region should be an inferno for a very long time.

Your support of annihilating people based on religion will be welcomed in the fourth Reich
At least until something else you support doesn't fit into the new ideology

 

[Zebo]

For you, only relative good can come out of populations raised and trained with violence and strife, eh?

Stupid.

Bigotry and hatred leading to cheerleading for genocide of your hated group of the day... Jews in the past.... Muslims are the current popular par-de-course.

I dont know about bigotry but I know they sell oil cheap when they need arms and are divided.

It's called real poltik. Exploit natureal fissues, Reagan did it with iran iraq war. Obama is doing it.

If they get too united and stable we get like 70s gas crisis where they can just cut it off and have influence.

It's up to them to stop being radical and fighting each other then they can stick it to the west.