Isaiah Washington suggests African-Americans boycott work Monday

[SNC]

http://www.usatoday.com/story/life/...rican-americans-boycott-work-monday/91078734/


Actor Isaiah Washington wants every single African American to boycott work on Monday.

"No work. No school. No shopping for 24 hours," the former Grey's Anatomy star wrote on Facebook. "Imagine if every single African American in the United States that was really fed up with being angry, sad and disgusted, would pick ONE DAY to simply 'stay at home' from every single job, work site, sports arena and government office in the United States of America. I'm very sure that within 72 hours from Wall Street to the NFL...Black Lives Would Matter. September 26, 2016 is THE DAY."

Interesting but what would it prove or do to further their cause?

I think that a message of hope and hard work would be a better message to send. Instead of trying to hurt others what about helping those in need, joining a community group that helps kids stay off the street, assist with homework, or GED study, help with work and life skills. This thought process that we need to cause harm to others to fix our own issues is as backward a process as can be had. The people don't support you will not be changed except for the worse, and those that do support you but that are put in a bind because you stayed home for no reason just might change their minds. Its not like laws need to be changed, its hearts and minds. A scorched earth policy will not achieve the kind of change that is needed, this is not the 50s. you might get laws or public POLICY changed by burning down the town but those people whos livelihoods are ruined might just change and not in the way you hoped.

If one of my guys stayed home to boycott anything, be they black, white, green or orange they will find themselves with a lot of free time on their hands. If you want to make a political or social statement or stand, do it on your own time.

 

[sandorski]

http://www.usatoday.com/story/life/...rican-americans-boycott-work-monday/91078734/


Actor Isaiah Washington wants every single African American to boycott work on Monday.

"No work. No school. No shopping for 24 hours," the former Grey's Anatomy star wrote on Facebook. "Imagine if every single African American in the United States that was really fed up with being angry, sad and disgusted, would pick ONE DAY to simply 'stay at home' from every single job, work site, sports arena and government office in the United States of America. I'm very sure that within 72 hours from Wall Street to the NFL...Black Lives Would Matter. September 26, 2016 is THE DAY."

Interesting but what would it prove or do to further their cause?

I think that a message of hope and hard work would be a better message to send. Instead of trying to hurt others what about helping those in need, joining a community group that helps kids stay off the street, assist with homework, or GED study, help with work and life skills. This thought process that we need to cause harm to others to fix our own issues is as backward a process as can be had. The people don't support you will not be changed except for the worse, and those that do support you but that are put in a bind because you stayed home for no reason just might change their minds. Its not like laws need to be changed, its hearts and minds. A scorched earth policy will not achieve the kind of change that is needed, this is not the 50s. you might get laws or public POLICY changed by burning down the town but those people whos livelihoods are ruined might just change and not in the way you hoped.

If one of my guys stayed home to boycott anything, be they black, white, green or orange they will find themselves with a lot of free time on their hands. If you want to make a political or social statement or stand, do it on your own time.

Your reaction is exactly why it makes sense to do it. It sends a message.

 

[SNC]

Your reaction is exactly why it makes sense to do it. It sends a message.

So you believe that if enough bad things happen to those not involved, or involved in a positive way, will change the hearts and minds of those who at their core are against a group of people just because of their skin color? That would be like saying if I'm the worst employee the boss will be forced to give me a raise. The people they are hurting have nothing to do with the reason others dislike them. There is nothing the owner of a Starbucks is going to do to change the way a group of kkk members think.

 

[Brainonska511]

It sounds like you just don't get it.

 

[SNC]

It sounds like you just don't get it.

Well now is your opportunity to help the cause, what am I missing? I honestly want to know, I am not trolling or being obtuse. I would love to have an actual explanation as to how the destruction of a community and harming those who are in favor of change for the good, advances the cause. The only thing that is analogous would be terrorist. Trying to make people change their minds about a group by doing harm to a total separate group that have nothing to do with making that change.

 

[agent00f]

Its not like laws need to be changed, its hearts and minds. A scorched earth policy will not achieve the kind of change that is needed, this is not the 50s. you might get laws or public POLICY changed by burning down the town but those people whos livelihoods are ruined might just change and not in the way you hoped.

You're right the klan types are never going to change. But the way the klans types reacted to these types of movements did change hearts and minds.

 

[Brainonska511]

Well now is your opportunity to help the cause, what am I missing? I honestly want to know, I am not trolling or being obtuse. I would love to have an actual explanation as to how the destruction of a community and harming those who are in favor of change for the good, advances the cause. The only thing that is analogous would be terrorist. Trying to make people change their minds about a group by doing harm to a total separate group that have nothing to do with making that change.

The issue at hand is how government, via the interactions between the justice system and police encounters, are systematically biased against minorities. The issues you bring up with respect to their communities (like pushing for GEDs, etc...) has nothing to do with their protests. And the protests are about forcing people to pay attention to this important issue. The Starbucks owner may not be to blame for the system, but perhaps the protests get him to pay attention and call his representatives and make a stink about it all himself. Perhaps it causes people to pay attention and see the costs of paying out millions of dollars per year in settlements because of police wrongdoing. And perhaps, it gets the citizenry to push for changes in both criminal justice and how police interact with the local communities.

 

[sandorski]

So you believe that if enough bad things happen to those not involved, or involved in a positive way, will change the hearts and minds of those who at their core are against a group of people just because of their skin color? That would be like saying if I'm the worst employee the boss will be forced to give me a raise. The people they are hurting have nothing to do with the reason others dislike them. There is nothing the owner of a Starbucks is going to do to change the way a group of kkk members think.

It will get them to notice and listen. It will also expose all the assholes that refuse to even listen.

 

[Roflmouth]

The issue at hand is how government, via the interactions between the justice system and police encounters, are systematically biased against minorities. The issues you bring up with respect to their communities (like pushing for GEDs, etc...) has nothing to do with their protests. And the protests are about forcing people to pay attention to this important issue. The Starbucks owner may not be to blame for the system, but perhaps the protests get him to pay attention and call his representatives and make a stink about it all himself. Perhaps it causes people to pay attention and see the costs of paying out millions of dollars per year in settlements because of police wrongdoing. And perhaps, it gets the citizenry to push for changes in both criminal justice and how police interact with the local communities.

And "perhaps" unicorns will fly out of Ann Coulter's vagina and shower schoolchildren with ancient treasures.

The only things Black Lies Matter are "accomplishing" are pissing people off by championing shithead criminals and blocking freeway traffic.

 

[agent00f]

And "perhaps" unicorns will fly out of Ann Coulter's vagina and shower schoolchildren with ancient treasures.

The only things Black Lies Matter are "accomplishing" are pissing people off by championing shithead criminals and blocking freeway traffic.

They're accomplishing what they're after when the klan sorts come crawling out of the woodwork.

 

[brianmanahan]

not going to work is a good way to get yourself fired

 

[Sulaco]

So.....
How did it go?

 

[Zaap]

No school, work or shopping for 24 hours...


...black lives will matter within 72 hours?

This becoming a 5 day weekend or something?


Anyway, it's a half-assed idea, and not even original.

I know the braindead term 'raise awareness' is all the rage, but it'd be nice if people eventually figured out that random acts unrelated to whatever it is someone is protesting, against people that have nothing to do with the thing being protested... is not raising awareness of anything. It's random nonsense.

If in this persons's wildest imagination all black people were actually the hive-mind some imagine and everyone did this... most people would just look around and go "hey, where's John today? Where's Sara? They were supposed to do such and such." The fact that both John and Sara are black probably wouldn't occur to most people right off as having anything to do with them being gone.

The next day, when revealed 'surprise! We were raising awareness of police violence! ' if one wants to say a collective eye roll and 'the fuck??' muttered under a lot of peoples breath is 'raising awareness' then go right ahead.

 

[1prophet]

It will get them to notice and listen. It will also expose all the assholes that refuse to even listen.

If you want them to notice and listen march through the rich lily white neighborhoods while yelling "no justice no peace", especially the white elitist liberal neighborhoods who claim to be tolerant and care about minorities while they are actually "Klan" in heart and badmouth them in private and use them every chance they get, while proclaiming how superior they are to those conservative deplorable bigots in public.


http://thegrio.com/2015/02/15/white-liberal-racists/

Has the sharing of prejudice evolved into a hip bonding ritual in 21st-century America? This writer shares his surprising experiences as a white male navigating through young white “liberal” circles — after all the black people have left the room.


“White power!” the smiling girl declared, her fist held high in a grotesque imitation of a Black Power salute. A tall, thin, stylish humanities major in a midriff-baring red T, she was a vegan, an environmentalist, an intellectual, and she was my friend.

The comical scene played out to its record-scratching, freeze-frame, “WTF?” climax around a picnic table populated by frat boys in the middle of the sunny UCLA campus. It seemed like the thousandth time a friend had suddenly unloaded a blatantly racist bombshell, although this was the wildest one yet.

As a Canadian working and studying in Los Angeles for ten years, I began to wonder why progressive young hipsters of various races were so eager to privately share their disturbing ideas about black people. The fact that these probing admissions came from a large number of my “coolest” friends, rather than the usual suspects, made it seem like a disturbing new cultural phenomenon.

Seemingly nice young people, once they knew and trusted each other, were trying to take their friendship “to the next level” with these revelations of their racist beliefs. It was like they felt they could finally talk openly and drop the façade they maintained in public. They did this joyfully, as if it were a postmodern bonding ritual to confirm that they were members of the same cool social “tribe,” one that didn’t include blacks.

It wasn’t like all my friends, or even the majority of them, were doing this. But it was a lot of the ones that I had liked and admired before they let me in on their little secret. “White power” girl had been a friendly, interesting person I’d known for months when she invited me to lunch with her friends one day.

The friends turned out to be a bunch of burly, blond “Triumph of the Will”-esque frat boys, but when I talked to them, they seemed surprisingly “alternative.” They were into literature, history and art. They said they didn’t drink, inviting me to an underground frat party where they planned to take “psychedelics” and project old films along with the music, as if they were at a Hollywood club.

All this chilling and friendliness screeched to a halt when my friend saw a black student group handing out flyers nearby. She started fuming about it, saying it shouldn’t be allowed, that we ought to do something about that. Then she up and dropped her “White power!” on us. I actually laughed and repeated it sarcastically, thinking it was a bad joke.

The frat boys froze and stared at her. She frantically tried to reassure them with “It’s okay, he’s into it!” At that point, I understood that I was the only one at the table not “into it.” One of the guys hissed “Shut the f— up!” at my friend. For a second, I felt I was in a conspiracy thriller. What was this, had I stumbled onto a coven of white supremacists at UCLA? I never really found out, since my “friend” barely spoke to me again after that.

Other encounters in L.A. weren’t as dramatic but ran along the same lines. When I first came to the city from Canada, I didn’t know what to expect, other than stereotypes learned from the mass media. Most of these weren’t accurate, but there was a sort of relaxed, casual racism and segregation around the city. I saw blacks and whites living and working in the same neighborhoods, but I didn’t have any close black friends for years, and neither did any of my friends.

This wasn’t surprising, considering some of their personal opinions. One of these friends in L.A. was a supercool, dreadlocked (but white) dude who told me his father was a Death Row Records corporate lawyer. His girlfriend was a blond cheerleader who said her bank executive father gave her an SUV, an apartment and $10k a month on her 16th birthday. They seemed to know the people and have the money to prove their stories.

The couple was unusually nice to my brother and me, eagerly inviting us out for expensive sushi in the Hollywood Hills. Once we had a few drinks, they got down to the bonding, regaling us, initially in hushed tones, with what they “knew” about black people. I don’t know why they chose us; maybe because we were nice Canadians they thought we must be good old-fashioned white folks.

The guy told us how much his father made off of the rappers and how easy it was to finesse their contracts to give them less profit. He said most of them were criminals and not smart enough to run their business by themselves. Considering who his father’s boss apparently was, he may have found it easy to justify certain stereotypes in his own mind. His girlfriend’s ideas were even more laughable, including the classic “Black people are dirty!”

Now, these two may sound like a couple of cliched racists, but in everyday life, at school, around their black friends, they always seemed like non-judgmental, progressive liberals.

But there was another friend who was far more liberal than the others, and who had much more profound philosophical beliefs about race. This was a really caring, creative, and certifiably alternative Asian-American woman. She was well-educated, highly-skilled and just interested in the world.

One night, after lazily describing an eccentric idea for a piece of furniture shaped like a deep-sea creature, she explained her quite developed theories of social Darwinism as applied to African-American history and the civil rights movement.

She had heard that Martin Luther King was actually a self-serving demagogue who fomented racial animosity and stopped blacks from integrating into modern society. She wondered if the post-slavery marginalization and death of so many black people was just “survival of the fittest” at work — a natural “culling” that would efficiently thin the herd of American society by eliminating its weakest members.

She had also visited the South and was amazed at what she saw as such an ideal relationship between blacks and whites. She thought that they really knew how to get along with each other there because they had been living together so closely since the time of slavery.

Some of these opinions are extreme, but they may be more common among “intelligent” people than we think. It’s not that these apparently liberal racists knowingly create some convoluted hybrid philosophy combining progressive concepts with outdated racial theories. The reality may be that racist ideas are still passed along so effectively that many people take them for granted and don’t see any problem holding them in parallel to their political ideals, conservative or liberal.

That’s why this type of social bonding through shared bigotry seems so dangerous. It makes some people feel that racism is an important part of their identity, something that reinforces a sense of belonging to a special group, while differentiating that group from others.

 

[SNC]

They're accomplishing what they're after when the klan sorts come crawling out of the woodwork.

And who are these "klan sorts" you speak of and what did they do when they emerged?

 

[agent00f]

And who are these "klan sorts" you speak of and what did they do when they emerged?

You can spot their activity over at breitbart and other alt-right sites.

 

[SNC]

You can spot their activity over at breitbart and other alt-right sites.

So nothing more then the normal goings-ons. As I don't frequent those types of sights, I'm not aware of an uptick in membership. I'll assume you're there just for educational purposes.

 

[agent00f]

So nothing more then the normal goings-ons. As I don't frequent those types of sights, I'm not aware of an uptick in membership. I'll assume you're there just for educational purposes.

I suppose you can call the (uppity act)-->(racist reaction)-->(average person associates the right with racism) cycle pretty normal goings-on.

 

[SNC]

I suppose you can call the (uppity act)-->(racist reaction)-->(average person associates the right with racism) cycle pretty normal goings-on.

Once more, this time in English please.

 

[agent00f]

Once more, this time in English please.

There a cycle of events which goes from (uppity act) to (racist reaction) to (average person associates the right with racism).

I supposes you can call that pretty normal goings-on, as you did.

 

[OutHouse]

The issue at hand is how government, via the interactions between the justice system and police encounters, are systematically biased against minorities. The issues you bring up with respect to their communities (like pushing for GEDs, etc...) has nothing to do with their protests. And the protests are about forcing people to pay attention to this important issue. The Starbucks owner may not be to blame for the system, but perhaps the protests get him to pay attention and call his representatives and make a stink about it all himself. Perhaps it causes people to pay attention and see the costs of paying out millions of dollars per year in settlements because of police wrongdoing. And perhaps, it gets the citizenry to push for changes in both criminal justice and how police interact with the local communities.

lol it wont do a damn thing and you know it. nothing but pie in the sky bullshit.

how about people do what the cop orderers them to do, stop fighting the cops, stop starting gun fights with the cops, stop arguing with the cops like a little brat being told to take a bath and refusing. hummm yea maybe that would work in bringing the cop related shootings down a few notches. for blacks and whites.

 

[pcgeek11]

Your reaction is exactly why it makes sense to do it. It sends a message.

Getting fired also sends a message. LOL

 

[agent00f]

Getting fired also sends a message. LOL

Yeah let's fire the black guy for trying to make the point that minorities matter.

 

[pcgeek11]

Yeah let's fire the black guy for trying to make the point that minorities matter.

No. You fire a stupid asshole ( regardless of the color of said asshole ) that doesn't show up for work when they are scheduled.

They should champion their cause on their own time or schedule a vacation day.

 

[pcgeek11]

Anyway they obviously decided not to do it as it didn't happen.