Is Win7 ultimate 64 bit defrager a good program?

[hclarkjr]

but isn't it a stripped down version missing some features?

 

[Nothinman]

but isn't it a stripped down version missing some features?

I'm sure Diskeeper's bullet point list of features is longer, but so what? Obviously none of them are that big of a deal since you don't even know what they are.

 

[hclarkjr]

intelliwrite and I-FAAST i bet are not in the windows version and yes i know what they do :biggrin:

 

[Nothinman]

intelliwrite and I-FAAST i bet are not in the windows version and yes i know what they do :biggrin:

I just did a quick google to see what they were and I still call snakeoil, especially with I-FAAST. I already know that fragmentation doesn't have the performance degrading affects that people like Diskeeper want you to think and now with SuperFetch that affect will be even smaller. They even say that the average benefit in access times is in the 10-20% range, which if they really mean seek times then that's only 2ms if it even does anything at all.

Mostly the same thing for Intelliwrite. Smart allocation algorithms have been in use decades in unix which is why most people don't believe you have to defrag unix filesystems. And I'm sure the NTFS driver isn't the smartest one out there, but it's not that bad.

And their graph that states "And how much faster your computer operates (Higher scores are better):" just screams bullshit. They don't even attempt to explain what the vertical numbers mean.

 

[hclarkjr]

I just did a quick google to see what they were and I still call snakeoil, especially with I-FAAST. I already know that fragmentation doesn't have the performance degrading affects that people like Diskeeper want you to think and now with SuperFetch that affect will be even smaller. They even say that the average benefit in access times is in the 10-20% range, which if they really mean seek times then that's only 2ms if it even does anything at all.

Mostly the same thing for Intelliwrite. Smart allocation algorithms have been in use decades in unix which is why most people don't believe you have to defrag unix filesystems. And I'm sure the NTFS driver isn't the smartest one out there, but it's not that bad.

And their graph that states "And how much faster your computer operates (Higher scores are better):" just screams bullshit. They don't even attempt to explain what the vertical numbers mean.

i refer you to this http://forums.anandtech.com/showpost.php?p=29325847&postcount=15 this topic always get like this!!

 

[Nothinman]

i refer you to this http://forums.anandtech.com/showpost.php?p=29325847&postcount=15 this topic always get like this!!

This topic only always gets like this because no one is willing to prove that defragging actually helps anything. Everyone who's pro-buying a defrag tool just says "It feels faster to me!" like that actually means something.

 

[lxskllr]

This topic only always gets like this because no one is willing to prove that defragging actually helps anything. Everyone who's pro-buying a defrag tool just says "It feels faster to me!" like that actually means something.

Yup. I've NEVER seen a benchmark that shows defragmenting makes a big difference, and AFAIK, they've never tested products against each other.

 

[NaOH]

I think doing a routine defragment of the drive prolongs the life of the drive more than anything. I always run one every few months. Haven't had a drive die on me ever. Might be a coincidence but since it's free to do, I'm not really losing anything.

 

[Nothinman]

I think doing a routine defragment of the drive prolongs the life of the drive more than anything. I always run one every few months. Haven't had a drive die on me ever. Might be a coincidence but since it's free to do, I'm not really losing anything.

If anything I would say the opposite because you're giving the drive a semi-heavy workout periodically that may or may not happen during normal usage without the defrag.

 

[Scotteq]

To add: There is a Blog from Microsoft's engineers indicating that "Best practices for using defragmentation in Windows 7 are simple – you do not need to do anything! Defragmentation is scheduled to automatically run periodically and in the background with minimal impact to foreground activity. This ensures that data on your hard disk drives is efficiently placed so the system can provide optimal responsiveness ..."

http://blogs.msdn.com/e7/archive/20...d-engineering-the-windows-7-improvements.aspx