Is Virginia really the deep south??

[Mike2002]

So I'm hearing all these people on the news talk about how since Michael Vick is from Virginia, dog fighting is something that happens all the time here since its the deep south. Maybe I'm just blinded since I've lived in Virginia my whole life. Maybe way back in the day we were but not now or i think.

 

[Jumpem]

In the more southern rural areas. Up north near DC (which is horrible), not really.

 

[SlitheryDee]

I think you're confusing the term "deep south" with "full of rednecks". Deep south is a geographical location that would not change even if Virginia became the most advanced cradle of enlightenment known to mankind. If Virginia was ever part of the deep south then it still is.

 

[BrownTown]

IMO Virginia is not even close to being the deep south, not even north Carolina or most of Tennessee are deep south in my book. Deep south = Alabama, Georgia, Mississippi, Louisiana and parts of Tennessee, South Carolina, and Florida.

 

[TruePaige]

Originally posted by: BrownTown
IMO Virginia is not even close to being the deep south, not even north Carolina or most of Tennessee are deep south in my book. Deep south = Alabama, Georgia, Mississippi, Louisiana and parts of Tennessee, South Carolina, and Florida.

As a Virginian we were in the South, but we were far from the deep south!

 

[Shaftatplanetquake]

South Carolinian here, No.

 

[MasterOfKtulu109]

it is considered the south, which has always seemed strange to me because DC is never considered the south and it is right next door.

 

[Excelsior]

As a North Carolinian, I am gonna have to say NO. As BrownTown said, when I think of deep south, I think of Mississippi, Alabama, Louisiana Georgia, South Carolina, some of Tennessee, and parts of Florida (but Florida is almost on its own really).

 

[Mallow]

depends on the level of education

 

[sohcrates]

I , as well as many of my northern virginia neighbors, often wish northern va could secede from va and perhaps become an independent territory!

that way, people would stop bunching us all together!

seriously. take 95 south past about woodbridge, va and tell me if you notice any "changes"

 

[Throckmorton]

Originally posted by: SlitheryDee
I think you're confusing the term "deep south" with "full of rednecks". Deep south is a geographical location that would not change even if Virginia became the most advanced cradle of enlightenment known to mankind. If Virginia was ever part of the deep south then it still is.

"Deep South" is a cultural geography region... it has nothing to do with state lines.

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: Excelsior
As a North Carolinian, I am gonna have to say NO. As BrownTown said, when I think of deep south, I think of Mississippi, Alabama, Louisiana Georgia, South Carolina, some of Tennessee, and parts of Florida (but Florida is almost on its own really).

Wikipedia agrees with you:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep_South

 

[JulesMaximus]

No, Virginia is more like the northeast south.

 

[nageov3t]

any state below the mason-dixon line or that fought on the side of the confederacy during the civil war = south (though I'd throw Kentucky in and take Texas out).

but when I think of deep south, I mostly think of Alabama, Mississippi, and Georgia.

edit: or more or less the dark red states:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I...S_map-South_Modern.png

 

[LordNoob]

Virginia Beach/Norfolk and northern Virginia are not the deep South. Richmond, however, is in fact the deep South.

 

[Scarpozzi]

Originally posted by: Throckmorton

Originally posted by: SlitheryDee
I think you're confusing the term "deep south" with "full of rednecks". Deep south is a geographical location that would not change even if Virginia became the most advanced cradle of enlightenment known to mankind. If Virginia was ever part of the deep south then it still is.

"Deep South" is a cultural geography region... it has nothing to do with state lines.

I agree with you. Not only does it have nothing to do with state lines, the flood of Northerners has made it more difficult to tell how redneck a particular area is.

Best way to tell if you're in the Deep South is go into a gas station and see if there is:
1. Taxidermy on the walls
2. Only Budweiser, Busch, and PBR in the cooler
3. Fresh, serve yourself, Cajun Boiled Peanuts next to the cash register
4. Homemade Beef Jerky in ziplock bags
5. Precious Moments Figurines
6. Confederate flags over the back-glass of every pickup truck in the parking lot

 

[RaistlinZ]

I think of Georgia, Louisianna, Alabama, and Mississippi and South Carolina as "deep south". North Carolina, Tennessee, Kentucky, Arkansas, North Carolina I think of as "weak south".

 

[shortylickens]

I partially agree with RaistlinZ. To me the DEEP SOUTH is GA, LA, AL, MS.
I dont really think of SC as part of that.

Would do I use for a definition? Well, its kind of harsh but I base it mostly on racism.
Any state that had thousands and thousands of black folks go missing between 1865 and 1965. Actually, South Carolina might qualify, I'm not sure.

 

[Eos]

There is a truck stop in Raphine, right off of I-81 who have proudly advertised:

"Meatloaf sammich wif termaters"

tee hee

I'm from the NW and I've never heard people talk like that, forget about actually typing it out!

 

[Whoozyerdaddy]

Speaking as someone who lived most of his life in Alaska... You're all in the deep south.

I was born in VA BTW... and a good chunk of my family lives in VA/NC. They're all rednecks and I consider them all to be "southerners" by deed/language (cause they sure as hell don't speak english) and action, not location.

Yes, VA is part of the deep south.

 

[runzwithsizorz]

Originally posted by: Scarpozzi

the flood of Northerners has made it more difficult to tell how redneck a particular area is.[/quote]
This is true, however most of the northerners, are well,-- up north,(Fairfax,etc). Down below Richmond where I live, it's, shall I say different. As an example, I was driving down a country road and I saw a billboard that read, Looking to buy, or sell your home? Then call, KKKate Realestate.
My wife,and I retired here from Ca. and at that moment, I looked at her and said, "honey, I don't think we're in San Diego anymore".

 

[Mike2002]

I had to add one thing as well. Virginia was the first state that elected a black governor. And he's the mayor of Richmond now as well. Our current governor is a democrat too, but that's probably because George Allen really messed up his chances with his "macaca" gaff. Anyway...

 

[LordNoob]

Seriously, as I said before, Richmond is the deep south while other parts of VA are not. Richmond was the freaking confederate capitol during the Civil War. From the porch of my Richmond residence is visible a massive monument to Stonewall Jackson, among others on Monument Ave. This is serious stuff in Richmond. Deep South for sure.

 

[davestar]

VA has some regions that would certainly qualify as "deep south" (no need to argue semantics - we all know the implications of the term). if any Virginians want to get up in arms about that, i'd just as quickly say that MD and PA also have "deep south" areas.

 

[ElFenix]

just remember that MD was a slave state and the reason it didn't secede is because lincoln had all the democrats jailed.