Is Venice still king for value

[almach1]

I'm looking for a mobo and processor to go with my agp x800xl.

-I'm thinking about a asrock dual agp-pci-e mobo and a a new processor. I'm thinking a 3000 venice if it's still got at least 1-2 years of usability.

-or should I just sit and wait for something better in the future?

-if i do upgrade right now from a 754 my limit is 250.

frys had an add for the following proccessor and a ecs mobo that is agp and pci-e for 209. it's an ecs and the agp is one of those crummy agp express slots. I was thinking of selling the ecs board and getting the asrock dual agp pci-e board instead.

AMD Athlon 64 Details
Processor AMD Athlon 64
Model 3500+
Ordering P/N (Tray) ADA3500DAA4BW
Ordering P/N (PIB) ADA3500BWBOX
Stepping E6
Frequency 2200Mhz
HT Speed 2000
Voltage 1.35-1.40 V
Max Temp 65°C
Thermal Power 67W
L1 Cache 128KB
L2 Cache 512KB
CMOS Technology 90nm SOI
Socket Socket Socket 939

 

[Viditor]

If it were me, I'd wait and save until you can afford dual core and a 7800...

 

[jiffylube1024]

Yes, Venice is still a great buy, but if you are planning on overclocking, you'd probably be just as well off with a (much cheaper) 3000+.

 

[Hyperlite]

Venice? Try Opteron 144.

 

[xenolith]

Originally posted by: Hyperlite
Venice? Try Opteron 144.

or a 165 dual-core s939 opteron.

::::untested so more of a risk/reward factor::::

 

[almach1]

whatever processor i'd get, i'd definatly try to OC it.

 

[almach1]

i also got a zalman 7000alcu a friend of mine ain't using. too bad i aint got nothin that can take advantage of it.

 

[the Chase]

Originally posted by: Hyperlite
Venice? Try Opteron 144.

:thumbsup:

 

[charloscarlies]

Originally posted by: jiffylube1024
Yes, Venice is still a great buy, but if you are planning on overclocking, you'd probably be just as well off with a (much cheaper) 3000+.

Definitely. Although, the 3200+'s aren't much more at Ewiz and you get the flexibility of the 10x multi. They *should* overlock just as well as the 3500+ and are much cheaper.

 

[Hacp]

Venice or opeteron 144 but thats not going to be availible right now .

 

[almach1]

i think i'm just going to wait and see if fry's ever has a combo deal witha 939 without a crummy motherboard. If that don't happen soon i'm just going to sit and wait until something better. Maybe when applications catch up with dual processing i'll get a fast x2.

 

[jiffylube1024]

Originally posted by: almach1
i think i'm just going to wait and see if fry's ever has a combo deal witha 939 without a crummy motherboard. If that don't happen soon i'm just going to sit and wait until something better. Maybe when applications catch up with dual processing i'll get a fast x2.

If you want to overclock, then don't get a crummy motherboard!

 

[thecoolnessrune]

I thought the 3700+ San Diego combined with that new Jetway mobo was the best price/performance ration currently.

 

[almach1]

Originally posted by: thecoolnessrune
I thought the 3700+ San Diego combined with that new Jetway mobo was the best price/performance ration currently.

I'll definatley look into that. hopefully they won't be more than 300.

 

[almach1]

why not? i got the money, might as well go for it? i'll be shopping around for a 3700+ sand diego and probably and an asrock board.(i have a x800xl agp i'm not getting rid of)

 

[thecoolnessrune]

Get the 3700+ from newegg. And the ASRock MOBO from e-wiz. Those are your best prices.

 

[Shimmishim]

Originally posted by: Hacp
Venice or opeteron 144 but thats not going to be availible right now .

i think the opty 144/146 is hte best value right now.

they have 1 meg L2 and run 1.8 and 2.0 ghz respectively.

there is a guy on XS.org that is taking orders for 144 and 146 opterons.

$160 for the 144 and $220 for the 146.

not shabby at all!

 

[videogames101]

well i can tell you to go ahead with a asrock 939 duel-SATA2, yay agp and PCIe, i love mine....

and yes it has full speed agp and PCIe

 

[Shenkoa]

Originally posted by: jiffylube1024
Yes, Venice is still a great buy, but if you are planning on overclocking, you'd probably be just as well off with a (much cheaper) 3000+.

I disagree, I have worked with both the 3000+ and 3200+ Venice on my board, the 3000+ is hard to get a good OC out of. Its best to stick to the 3200+ for the extra multiplier, both are E3.

Out of personal experience.

 

[anandtechrocks]

Originally posted by: almach1
why not? i got the money, might as well go for it? i'll be shopping around for a 3700+ sand diego and probably and an asrock board.(i have a x800xl agp i'm not getting rid of)

Comming from an owner of a 3700+ SD I would definately say go with a 3800+ X2. I jumped on my SD too early and now wish I had waited for the X2's. Dual core is the future! Choosing a single core processor at this point is dumb (unless you don't have the cash...).

 

[xenolith]

Originally posted by: anandtechrocks

Originally posted by: almach1
why not? i got the money, might as well go for it? i'll be shopping around for a 3700+ sand diego and probably and an asrock board.(i have a x800xl agp i'm not getting rid of)

Comming from an owner of a 3700+ SD I would definately say go with a 3800+ X2. I jumped on my SD too early and now wish I had waited for the X2's. Dual core is the future! Choosing a single core processor at this point is dumb (unless you don't have the cash...).

Absolutely. I'm go all out and getting an s939 165 Opteron.. Basically, a "Cherry-picked" 1.8GHz Toledo. I can't think of any reason why it shouldn't o/c well in my DFI NF4 Ultra-D.

 

[seiyafan]

All 939 socket opteron carried by that place are not in stock though.

 

[lifeguard1999]

I am running:

AMD Athlon 64 3000+ Processor (Venice) @ 2.7 GHz, stock air; 1.55V
DFI LANPARTY nF4 SLI-DR

So I can say that Venice is a good value. Personally, the 3200 is probably better than my 3000 since it has a 10x multiplier which makes o/c easier.

 

[almach1]

i agree that dual core is the future. But what exactly is right now. The future i'm expecting will have much better x2 processors and much better software that will take advantage of it. But that's not exactly right now.

 

[Mellman]

agreed. Dual core is quite expensive right now. While having dual cpu's is fun - the lack of applications to support it sortof sucks. Personally i'm waiting until I see games/software that start to take advantage of the dual core technologies. That is when I will upgrade to X2. I just built the rig in my sig - mostly because I've wanted to try out the LV xeons for a long time, finally decided to go with it. Otherwise I would've stuck with my 2500+ running at ~2.3.