Is Universal Health Care dead?

[techs]

I am 100 percent sure the Supreme Court will decide at least some of the new UHC law is unconstitutional. Even if it were clearly Ok, we have seen the Republicans on the court act outrageously in ruling for the Republican agenda.

Once even part of the law is unconstitutional there is now way Congress will fix it after the Republicans take the House.

And if the Supreme Court doesn't find it unconstitutional I am 100 percent sure the Republicans will shut down government like they did under Clinton, but this time they will keep it shut no matter what until they get there way. No funding means no UHC.

bye bye, UHC. We barely knew you.

 

[ElFenix]

lol@thinking the new law is UHC or anywhere near it

 

[JS80]

lol it's the left trying to force everyone to get UHC and you call it a "Republican agenda" to not have something.

 

[IndyColtsFan]

I am 100 percent sure the Supreme Court will decide at least some of the new UHC law is unconstitutional. Even if it were clearly Ok, we have seen the Republicans on the court act outrageously in ruling for the Republican agenda.

Now THAT is funny.

But cheer up Techs -- your pals, the Democrats, will twist it as being constitutional due to the commerce clause and maybe they'll dupe the court.

 

[Dr. Zaus]

A state can force me to buy something; The federal government can tax me and then buy something. But the feds can't force me to buy something, it isn't within their jurisdiction or power.

They should have just taxed people an amount that would 'match' the price of the plan they chose; that would be legal... but it has to be a tax, it can't be forced-purchase.

 

[JS80]

A state can force me to buy something; The federal government can tax me and then buy something. But the feds can't force me to buy something, it isn't within their jurisdiction or power.

They should have just taxed people an amount that would 'match' the price of the plan they chose; that would be legal... but it has to be a tax, it can't be forced-purchase.

lol separate but equal

 

[PeshakJang]

I am 100 percent sure the Republicans will shut down government like they did under Clinton

Maybe now, like back then, it will cause us to turn deficits into a surplus.

 

[bamacre]

Maybe now, like back then, it will cause us to turn deficits into a surplus.

LOL, that's not going to happen any time soon, if ever. No matter who is elected.

 

[OCGuy]

What UHC law? Where the hell is the UHC law?


Are you even serious?

 

[Lemon law]

UHC is an idea, and as an idea it can't be killed. Ideas merely compete with other ideas, and yesterdays radical, often becomes tommows accepted idea, and later into accepted conservative dogma as new realities and ideas come into being.

 

[nonlnear]

What UHC law? Where the hell is the UHC law?

Are you even serious?

Serious? techs?

I'm quite sure techs is serious, but that doesn't mean anyone ought to take him seriously!

 

[Patranus]

Of course it isn't dead. It is coming in the near future.

Adding 30 million new people to the insurance rolls is clearly not going to bring down costs.

Obamacare was designed to intentionally drive up costs so that they could use the increase in costs as an excuse to try and pass UHC.

 

[senseamp]

This is not UHC. But if it's repealed, and the healthcare system is still a clusterfvck, the next reforms may very well be.

 

[her209]

What exactly is being defunded?

 

[senseamp]

GOP is going to have to put up or shut up on healthcare. If they defund it, they'll have to take responsibility for breaking it and any hardships that causes. If they don't their idiot base will riot.

 

[Patranus]

GOP is going to have to put up or shut up on healthcare. If they defund it, they'll have to take responsibility for breaking it and any hardships that causes. If they don't their idiot base will riot.

It was passed intentionally broken.
The goal was to drive up costs so there wouldn't be any choice buy UHC.

 

[CPA]

techs, sounds like your are already conceding the elections in a couple weeks.

 

[IGBT]

it will be sliced diced and unfunded. Can't break what's already broken and untenable.

 

[dawp]

Y'all are assuming that Repubs are going to gain control of both houses. That is unlikely. As I've said before, both parties are bought and paid for.

 

[Freshgeardude]

Y'all are assuming that Repubs are going to gain control of both houses. That is unlikely. As I've said before, both parties are bought and paid for.

lots of early polls show that the repubs will be taking back the house.


not sure where u are getting your data from

 

[dawp]

lots of early polls show that the repubs will be taking back the house.


not sure where u are getting your data from

you have to have control of both house and senate to get anything done. That is what I was trying to say.

 

[sportage]

Im more concerned with the courts and/or that republicans will find issues with the roaming public clinics? Isnt THAT UHC (of a kind)? People waiting in lines for hours/days to see a doctor free, and avoid the local hospital ER (and the wrath of healthcare industry's billing department). Surely that will become a sore spot in the republican pro healthcare agenda. No??? If they can fight against UHC, isnt the logic to then fight against free roaming healthcare? Count on it !!!

 

[Infohawk]

GOP is going to have to put up or shut up on healthcare. If they defund it, they'll have to take responsibility for breaking it and any hardships that causes. If they don't their idiot base will riot.

Not really, remember Republicans don't necessarily pretend to be able to fix problems with government regulation. If anything the Republican position would probably be to deregulate, but Obama wouldn't let that happen.

techs, sounds like your are already conceding the elections in a couple weeks.

It certainly looks like a lot of partisan Democrats are freaking out around the country and on this board.

 

[Zorkorist]

It was dead during Hillary's reign in the White House, and it is dead now.

-John

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

bye bye, UHC. We barely knew you.

We never knew you. There never was UHC. Dude, are you going out of your way to show you haven't a clue?