is turbo not working???

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Lifer
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I am using that tool from Intel to see if turbo is working but my cpu never goes over 3.30. I tried games and Intel burn test but 3.30 is as high as it will go. I have turbo on in the bios so what am I missing here???
 
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Kenmitch

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Using intel burn test and choosing 1 thread it's still 3.33ghz? If so then must be a bios setting is out of whack or maybe windows. Did you look in control panel advanced power settings? Maybe check max cpu speed to make sure it's 100%
 

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Using intel burn test and choosing 1 thread it's still 3.33ghz? If so then must be a bios setting is out of whack or maybe windows. Did you look in control panel advanced power settings? Maybe check max cpu speed to make sure it's 100%
even with one core it still only goes to 3.30. I have advanced power settings on high performance and cpu max is set to 100%.
 

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even with one core it still only goes to 3.30. I have advanced power settings on high performance and cpu max is set to 100%.

Gotta be a bios setting most likely then. Quick google search I found this post

" Now I think it wasn't anything to do with the windows updates. Using "Optimized Defaults" in the BIOS, turbo works fine. However, it stops working again when I enable XMP for my RAM. It seems that the board automatically disables Turbo when it thinks you're overclocking.

Here's how to fix it:

Go to Advanced CPU Core features in the BIOS.
1. Change Turbo Boost from "Auto" to "Enabled"
2. Change C1E from "Auto" to "Enabled"
3. Change C3/C6 from "Auto" to "Enabled"
4. Change CPU Thermal Monitor from "Auto" to "Enabled"
5. Change EIST from "Auto" to "Enabled"
6. Change Bidirectional PROCHOT from "Auto" to "Enabled"

With the above changes, my Core i5 happily turbos to my settings of 46x/45x/40x/35x for 1/2/3/4 cores.

Note that I don't know whether all 6 of the above items must be set Enabled. I want them all on anyway, but if there's one you don't one just test what happens when you diasable it! "

Might be worth a look in bios to see what yours are set on.
 
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I already had the settings on enabled except for C3/C6 and Bidirectional PROCHOT which I do not even see in my bios.
 

Kenmitch

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In bios is the adjust cpu ration in OS set to enabled? If not try that and see. I didn't run mine at stock speed long but kinda remember having to enable a similar setting in my Asus bios to make turbo work.
 

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In bios is the adjust cpu ration in OS set to enabled? If not try that and see. I didn't run mine at stock speed long but kinda remember having to enable a similar setting in my Asus bios to make turbo work.
I will try that but it says that is for allowing overclocking with MSI Control Center.
 

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Lifer
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ok enabling "adjust cpu ratio in OS" in the BIOS seems to allow some turbo now but something is still not right. with all fours core it will now go to 3.4 like its supposed but it does not do 3.5 for 2 cores, 3.6 for 2 cores or 3.7 for 1 core. with anything less than 4 cores it drops back to 3.3 and stays there.
 

Kenmitch

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It's your chips way of saying I'm a K stop playing around with stock speeds and set me free :)

At least you made some progress.
 

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Lifer
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It's your chips way of saying I'm a K stop playing around with stock speeds and set me free :)

At least you made some progress.
lol the stock cooler has other plans though. I will decide on a cooler later of course.

I still want to figure this out as its odd only the 4 core turbo is working. by the way that Intel tool is not very good. cpu-z would show me at 3.4 while the Intel tool might take a while to reflect that speed. heck I was playing Fallout NV windowed and the Intel tool was at 3.3 almost the whole time yet cpu-z was reporting 3.4.

anyway if you or anybody has more any ideas on getting turbo to work correctly on 3, 2, or 1 core let me know.
 

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well now it gets even stranger. I reset the the BIOS to optimized defaults and now it will go to 3.6 but still not 3.7. to be exact it will do 3.6 for 1 core, 3.5 for 2 cores, and 3.4 for 3 or 4 cores. wtf? good grief why cant this turbo just work right?
 
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well now it gets even stranger. I reset the the BIOS to optimized defaults and now it will go to 3.6 but still not 3.7. to be exact it will do 3.6 for 1 core, 3.5 for 2 cores, and 3.4 for 3 or 4 cores. wtf? good grief why cant this turbo just work right?
You will probably never see the 1-core turbo occur. There are many other processes running in the background which will prevent all of the other cores from being turned off.
 

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You will probably never see the 1-core turbo occur. There are many other processes running in the background which will prevent all of the other cores from being turned off.

It's possible that under some circumstances you might. Windows 7 has a feature called 'core parking' which tries to lump all the processes onto as few cores as possible. Preferring to heavily load 1 or 2 cores, than have 3 or 4 cores sharing a small load.

If it detects that CPU load is not enough to require all the cores, it actually shuts down some cores.

So, if you have 10 processes using about 2% of 1 core each. Win 7 will see this, and will shut down all cores except one. This saves power and heat which would otherwise go in keeping idle cores powered up.

Similarly, if you've got processes using about 150% of a core on a quad core machine. 2 cores may end up shut off.

It's not clear whether Win7 core parking fully understands turbo, or not - as it's primarily a power saving feature.
 

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well now it gets even stranger. I reset the the BIOS to optimized defaults and now it will go to 3.6 but still not 3.7. to be exact it will do 3.6 for 1 core, 3.5 for 2 cores, and 3.4 for 3 or 4 cores. wtf? good grief why cant this turbo just work right?
Remember that the max. turbo speeds might are not intended to be sustainable. They may only be maintained for a short time - 1 second. This might be short enough that you don't see it in your monitoring software.
 

Kenmitch

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You will probably never see the 1-core turbo occur. There are many other processes running in the background which will prevent all of the other cores from being turned off.

Would be my guess. Not sure if it's an intel or win 7 thing but if you use something like intel burn test and 2 threads and view the cores in task manager you'll see the load is constantly shifted around from core to core.
 

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Remember that the max. turbo speeds might are not intended to be sustainable. They may only be maintained for a short time - 1 second. This might be short enough that you don't see it in your monitoring software.
but even shutting off all but one core from the BIOS still does not let it turbo to 3.7 which does not seem right. I just want my new system to operate correctly. if something is not right then its a lot easier for me to deal with newegg right now than an RMA with the manufacturer later.
 

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Lifer
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well now enabling "adjust cpu ratio in OS" actually limits it to 3.4 no matter what which makes no sense. earlier that was the only way I could even get it to turbo to 3.4 over 3.3. with that disabled it will go straight to 3.6 when using a single core ever since I loaded optimized defaults. again though it refuses to ever go to 3.7 at all when using a single core. I know that cannot be right. to be clear it shoots up to 3.6 just doing anything like opening a program or even moving a window around so I know something is stopping it from hitting 3.7.
 

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I used on my i7 930

Core Parking is a feature of Windows 7 that is causing rare performance problems. I don't notice it on my home i7 / Win7 system but some people are getting microstutters and odd behavior in certain programs. Without the following " tweak" you may see CPU spiking in your programs and Windows Task Manager - some CPU cores will be "turned off" / "parked" depending on load and they will be dynamically turned on or off and dynamically loaded up or down as the system deems necessary - the scope for glitchs / pops / clicks / droputs etc.... in such an environment is simply enormous. To the best of my knowledge, there is no known "switch" to turn it off - no utility I am aware of to "tweak" it off.

The Fix
- Go to Regedit
- Select Edit > Find... and find this key: " 0cc5b647-c1df-4637-891a-dec35c318583 "
- Within this key, there is a value called: " ValueMax " This value represents the % number of cores the system will park
- Change the value of " ValueMax" to 0 so that, it matches " ValueMin "
- You will have to find the key a few times and repeat the process for each time it is found - the number of instances will depend on the number of power profiles in your system. To do this go back up to Edit > Find Next. (I had 3 instances of this key in my registry.)
- Do a full shutdown and power-off and cold-re-start.

The Result
Better load balancing across all you CPU cores - no spiking - in Windows 7 Task Manager
 

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Lifer
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I looked in the registry and only saw one "0cc5b647-c1df-4637-891a-dec35c318583" key but you said you had three? I might mess with that later but for now I still want find out if there is something in the BIOS causing me not to turbo correctly.
 

john3850

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I did it year ago dont so I remember

You Must Load Intel ME drivers for the cpu to get the multipliers

Win7-64_Win7_Vista64_Vista_XP64_XP(7.1.10.1065)
 
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Lifer
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I have the newest ones( 7.1.13.1088) installed along with the latest official chipset drivers from Intel.
 

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Did you end up fixing your turbo problems? I'm having the EXACT issue and I have an MSI P67A-C43. I'm thinking its my MOBO. :S
 

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You should verify that your turbo is indeed not working by posting superpi 1M results with 1 core active. Get the results each time you tweak something. And also disable turbo and manually clock to 3.6 and get that superpi result too.