Is Trump bowing out? RNC reportedly considering options...

[Jhhnn]

It's also the clueless thinking of people on the progressive side that their "solutions" offer anything to these same people. It's always just another round of "they're voting against their own self-interest" when the people saying it have no clue of what their true self-interest is.

I think it's really more of an issue of refusal to accept the solutions that Dems offer, a sticking point of pride & the acceptance of a lot of otherizing.

The Medicaid extension is a prime example. States where people's health is at its worst are those not participating because of a well conditioned aversion to Big Gubmint. Not that people will gain the benefits any other way, of course, but if it means big Gubmint then they're against it as if there's some real alternative. There isn't. Don't want creeping socialism? What Repubs offer isn't better- it's worse.

 

[yllus]

The GOP has to be absolutely brain-dead to even think about forcing Trump out of the election. His supporters gravitated towards him because of his message and personality, which is something that Pence does not have. If Trump bows out of the election, there is no way in hell his supporters will ever consider voting for Pence in his absence. Pence has literally no charisma or personality that would get all of Trump's base to vote for him, and Pence would have the impossible task of trying to court women and minority voters at such a late point in this election. He may be able to garner support for all those Evangelists, Mormons, and such, but their numbers will never be as huge as having lots of women and minority voters under your belt (which Hillary has).

The GOP made their own fucking bed by backing Trump this election, now it's time for them to lie in it. They are way past the point of no return now.

By law they can't actually change the ballot less Trump literally dies or becomes incapacitated. The Republican option in 2016 is Trump-Pence and that is that.

 

[DrDoug]

Someone on Twitter posted that CNN is reporting that Pence may be withdrawing. Treat as a rumor at this point as there was no link.

Damn, Trump is spectacularly flaming out but too early IMO. Why couldn't this have been the week before the election?

Darn!

 

[UberNeuman]

Someone on Twitter posted that CNN is reporting that Pence may be withdrawing. Treat as a rumor at this point as there was no link.

Damn, Trump is spectacularly flaming out but too early IMO. Why couldn't this have been the week before the election?

Darn!

Chris Crispy just dropped his box of donuts hearing this... It's okay. He'll still eat 'em.

 

[jman19]

Someone on Twitter posted that CNN is reporting that Pence may be withdrawing. Treat as a rumor at this point as there was no link.

Damn, Trump is spectacularly flaming out but too early IMO. Why couldn't this have been the week before the election?

Darn!

Wishful thinking... right?

 

[Commodus]

Pence probably realizes this is his only shot at the White House (at least, his only shot any time soon), so he's not going to bow out unless he has no choice.

However, John McCain did withdraw his endorsement of Trump. Not completely surprising (after all, Trump insulted McCain and other POWs), but it's telling when even party die-hards don't want to tow Trump's line.

 

[trenchfoot]

In their supreme effort to defend the indefensible, The GOP has had to deal with their love/hate relationship with Trump in ways that only exacerbates and intensifies this weird self-immolating relationship it has with him.

And true to form, Trump is being himself no matter how much damage he's causing to himself and the party he represents.

From my point of view, the GOP has gotten back in spades what they maliciously put into play years ago.....and then some.

Karma really isn't something to be trifled with. But hey, an ounce of arrogance, a pinch of superiority complex, a bushel full of $$$ and decades of having things forced their way would make a game of Russian roulette with fate seem all worthwhile......right up until that instant when the bottom drops out of the scam the GOP's leaders have been running against their own constituents.

Fucking around with their constituent's heads for way too long without garnering any tangible results for them to see and believe in is, IMO, pretty much what the internal revolt of the rank and file base against the party leadership is all about.

Obstructing Obama and the Dems, of which was the eight year sum total of the Repub legislator's efforts just wasn't cutting it any more.

 

[JSt0rm]

all aboard the pussy train... choo choo

 

[Fanatical Meat]

I heard on CNN a guy speculating that right now is similar to what Trump wrote about in "The Art of The Deal" in regards to dealing with banks is easier when you owe them tons of money. Right now the RNC has lots of capital riding on Trump he could use this as leverage like pay off my personal campaign debts and sign up for all your conferences at Trump Properties for the next few years and I'll drop out.

This is only speculation he was very clear about that comment, I want to be clear about it too.

 

[TeeJay1952]

Repubs fired Michael Steele after he got Bush reelected and chose Reince Priebus to take his place.
Got what they wanted. Now what they deserve!

 

[Jhhnn]

In their supreme effort to defend the indefensible, The GOP has had to deal with their love/hate relationship with Trump in ways that only exacerbates and intensifies this weird self-immolating relationship it has with him.

And true to form, Trump is being himself no matter how much damage he's causing to himself and the party he represents.

From my point of view, the GOP has gotten back in spades what they maliciously put into play years ago.....and then some.

Karma really isn't something to be trifled with. But hey, an ounce of arrogance, a pinch of superiority complex, a bushel full of $$$ and decades of having things forced their way would make a game of Russian roulette with fate seem all worthwhile......right up until that instant when the bottom drops out of the scam the GOP's leaders have been running against their own constituents.

Fucking around with their constituent's heads for way too long without garnering any tangible results for them to see and believe in is, IMO, pretty much what the internal revolt of the rank and file base against the party leadership is all about.

Obstructing Obama and the Dems, of which was the eight year sum total of the Repub legislator's efforts just wasn't cutting it any more.

They've been poisoning people's minds for decades but they got too greedy, too complacent & too arrogant to see that they'd gone too far. To say that they've been insincere is a major understatement.They deserve Trump.

 

[ivwshane]

Repubs fired Michael Steele after he got Bush reelected and chose Reince Priebus to take his place.
Got what they wanted. Now what they deserve!

Yeah I didn't understand that move at all. Wasn't Steele also behind the massive wins in the 2010 election?

 

[Sunburn74]

Real life today is stranger than fiction... absoutely insane whats in the news these days.

From my point of view, the GOP has gotten back in spades what they maliciously put into play years ago.....and then some.

Honestly I don't think this fallout is enough of a price to pay. The value of the lost economic, social, and moral progress that has been stalled by their obstructionism is immeasurable.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

A generation of GOP stars may be diminished: ‘Everything Trump touches dies’

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...ing-trump-touches-dies’/ar-BBxd2z5?li=BBnbcA1

 

[glenn1]

I think it's really more of an issue of refusal to accept the solutions that Dems offer, a sticking point of pride & the acceptance of a lot of otherizing.

The Medicaid extension is a prime example. States where people's health is at its worst are those not participating because of a well conditioned aversion to Big Gubmint. Not that people will gain the benefits any other way, of course, but if it means big Gubmint then they're against it as if there's some real alternative. There isn't. Don't want creeping socialism? What Repubs offer isn't better- it's worse.

Perfect example. The typical middle class voter doesn't give the slightest sh!t about Medicaid expansion anymore than they care if welfare eligibility is eased. In fact it's a negative for a lot of them since they will be on the hook to help pay for it. That you think touting a whole bunch of policies for the poor that you favor will somehow appeal to the core Trump voter shows exactly how little you understand them.

 

[Jhhnn]

Perfect example. The typical middle class voter doesn't give the slightest sh!t about Medicaid expansion anymore than they care if welfare eligibility is eased. In fact it's a negative for a lot of them since they will be on the hook to help pay for it. That you think touting a whole bunch of policies for the poor that you favor will somehow appeal to the core Trump voter shows exactly how little you understand them.

Oh, please. It's not just about the poors. Middle class people realize they're often not far from financial disaster invoked by the whims of the Job Creators. They know that subsidized exchange plans are there if they need 'em as is the medicaid extension where state govt has adopted it. They know they won't be priced out of the market when they're near-seniors. The knew for years that pre-existing exclusions were bullshit & many suffered from that. They knew that the coverage from a lot of plans was skimpy at best.

What a lot of Trump voters want is a contradiction in terms- voluntarily benevolent Capitalism even though many like TH live in regions devastated by the callousness of it all. What they want isn't real & never was.

 

[MongGrel]

Perfect example. The typical middle class voter doesn't give the slightest sh!t about Medicaid expansion anymore than they care if welfare eligibility is eased. In fact it's a negative for a lot of them since they will be on the hook to help pay for it. That you think touting a whole bunch of policies for the poor that you favor will somehow appeal to the core Trump voter shows exactly how little you understand them.

You seem to have very little grasp of what a middle class voter is to begin with. A lot of Trump voters so not have elderly parents/grandparents that have paid into SS all their lives to worry about from your end of it.

I always assume you are a one of those "I'm only responsible for myself, so I bitch a lot" guys.

That or you're another Trust Fund baby.

You rant well though.

Someday you may be forced to grow up.

 

[agent00f]

Perfect example. The typical middle class voter doesn't give the slightest sh!t about Medicaid expansion anymore than they care if welfare eligibility is eased. In fact it's a negative for a lot of them since they will be on the hook to help pay for it. That you think touting a whole bunch of policies for the poor that you favor will somehow appeal to the core Trump voter shows exactly how little you understand them.

That's true, they're all about the military spending & such because they know where that better paid white welfare money is going.

 

[Sea Ray]

Trump needs to throw a Hail Mary and this is what I'd suggest: He should come out with an announcement (like Ross Perot did) that if he wins he'll be a one term President. He will not run for re-election in 4 yrs. Seeing as how both of these candidates are so despised, I think if one announces that we won't have them for 8 yrs could be a plus politically. The American voter knows that we're screwed this yr no matter what. We want a redo in 4 yrs with neither of these candidates

 

[Perknose]

Trump needs to throw a Hail Mary and this is what I'd suggest: He should come out with an announcement (like Ross Perot did) that if he wins he'll be a one term President. He will not run for re-election in 4 yrs. Seeing as how both of these candidates are so despised, I think if one announces that we won't have them for 8 yrs could be a plus politically. The American voter knows that we're screwed this yr no matter what. We want a redo in 4 yrs with neither of these candidates

Wow, I fervently wish Hillary would do this . . . announce she'll be a one term President and then challenge the Pubs to work with her to meet in the non-dead-end middle and call them out vigorously and repeatedly when they don't.

And, TO BE PERFECTLY CLEAR, I am not wishing this because I think Hillary should only be a one term President on her merits. She is, and remains, the most prepared and qualified candidate for the job among all the folks who ran this year on all sides, including all the third parties.**


** With the possible exception of Vermin Supreme, of course.

 

[Jhhnn]

Trump needs to throw a Hail Mary and this is what I'd suggest: He should come out with an announcement (like Ross Perot did) that if he wins he'll be a one term President. He will not run for re-election in 4 yrs. Seeing as how both of these candidates are so despised, I think if one announces that we won't have them for 8 yrs could be a plus politically. The American voter knows that we're screwed this yr no matter what. We want a redo in 4 yrs with neither of these candidates

Why would anybody but the rubes believe him?

 

[Perknose]

Perfect example. The typical middle class voter doesn't give the slightest sh!t about Medicaid expansion anymore than they care if welfare eligibility is eased. In fact it's a negative for a lot of them since they will be on the hook to help pay for it. That you think touting a whole bunch of policies for the poor that you favor will somehow appeal to the core Trump voter shows exactly how little you understand them.

You continue to trot out the strawman that any of us are trying to appeal to "the core Trump voter."

None of us are. Going forward, got that?

This is entirely different from the group of us who will continue to point out that "the core Trump voter" reliably votes against their own self interest, mesmerized by the shiny distractions of baby killer abortionists, terrorist loving libruhls, how tragically WEAK how massively funded military is, or the mystification of why uneducated white men can't have really, really good paying jobs despite no effort at self-improvement anymore, or further mystification as to why those uppity blacks could possibly be unhappy with their social and economic plight in this obviously post-racial society.

And don't get LeRoy started on those gun grabbers who want to take his Gawd Given Right to a rocket launcher away, the lefty bastids.

In conclusion: Socialism! Bengazi! Make America White Again!

 

[UNCjigga]

Yeah I didn't understand that move at all. Wasn't Steele also behind the massive wins in the 2010 election?

Yes, he could absolutely take credit for wins in 2010..."Fire Pelosi" campaign tour was his idea and he stumped hard for district races.

But he was too black for Rush Limbaugh, the "defacto leader of the Republican Party" (aka the Deplorable wing) who said publicly that Steele was a bad leader and called him "an Obama apologist." So Republicans picked douchebag Priebus over Steele and Maria Cina in 2011 and it's been all downhill from there. You can directly blame Limbaugh and the alt-right for the GOP crisis in leadership and downfall of the party. Not that the Deplorables care.


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[hal2kilo]

They've been poisoning people's minds for decades but they got too greedy, too complacent & too arrogant to see that they'd gone too far. To say that they've been insincere is a major understatement.They deserve Trump.

The Republican party is just like those naïve contractors that have heard that doing business with Trump can be difficult but you just can't pass up the deal. Most of those contractors wish they never heard of Trump when they get stiffed.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

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