Is Trump bowing out? RNC reportedly considering options...

[trenchfoot]

You know, it seems to me that in the stratospheric hallowed halls of the Republican National Committee, there should be at least a dozen or so egotistical self-centered arrogant shit-heads that need to do the most honorable thing possible and commit hara-kiri (seppuku) to take responsibility for the most massively epic fuck-up of all time where their decision making processes led to having Trump become their candidate for Prez.

That there is absolutely no call for guts to be spilled or heads to roll at the highest levels of leadership points to a weird kind of self-delusional pandemic within the party where heads are still being held high, jaws are still being jutted out in defiance and the idea that pride in the party collective is intact.

The Trumptanic has sailed, it's already broadsided an unyielding iceberg that the survivors named "The Hildabeast" and their once thought-of unsinkable creation(?) is listing badly while the rats had abandoned ship dockside even before the ship left port. There's no amount of damage control that can save it.

Best to have their orchestra of nitwit party patriarchs keep playing their theme song "Just Dropped in to See What Condition my Condition Was In" as they sink into those freezing waters of disgrace and obscurity. (Yeh, who are we kidding. Golden Liferafts anyone?)

Build a new ship that includes collision avoidance next time around. Modernize the controls, infrastructure and superstructure. Hire a new Captain and crew. And as an afterthought, send some depth charges down on those arrogant assholes in the wheelhouse who confidently shouted out "FULL SPEED AHEAD!!"

 

[Jhhnn]

There is zero chance he bows out quietly, but quite a high chance that he loses, and then claims the election was rigged against him.

If he gets enough of his supporters thinking the election was stolen from them, things could get really ugly really fast.

That's why Trump needs to be annihilated at the polls which would rule out all the skullduggery of Florida in 2000. There are no recounts when your guy loses by 20 points. Claims of fraud merely draw ridicule.

 

[Commodus]

I don't think the GOP would go so far as to replace Trump unless he said something so completely unforgivable that he'd have no choice but to bow out.

The simple reason: the effort involved in getting a new candidate in place. Not only would this person have to get up to speed very quickly, the party would have to retool its campaign strategy virtually overnight. And that's assuming that the new candidate is seen as a strong replacement. It's entirely possible that a new candidate would be treated as a sign of weakness, as evidence that the the GOP either couldn't field a strong initial candidate or doesn't respect the will of primary voters.

No matter what, the GOP must be dreading the next debate. Clinton won the first one by letting Trump stew in his own juices -- imagine what she'll do now that Trump can't just put out a "wrong!" lie and hope people buy it. The Republicans had better do some soul searching ahead of 2020, because they can't keep maintaining the kind of party culture that led to Trump's nomination in the first place.

 

[UNCjigga]

You know, it seems to me that in the stratospheric hallowed halls of the Republican National Committee, there should be at least a dozen or so egotistical self-centered arrogant shit-heads that need to do the most honorable thing possible and commit hara-kiri (seppuku) to take responsibility for the most massively epic fuck-up of all time where their decision making processes led to having Trump become their candidate for Prez.

That there is absolutely no call for guts to be spilled or heads to roll at the highest levels of leadership points to a weird kind of self-delusional pandemic within the party where heads are still being held high, jaws are still being jutted out in defiance and the idea that pride in the party collective is intact.

The Trumptanic has sailed, it's already broadsided an unyielding iceberg that the survivors named "The Hildabeast" and their once thought-of unsinkable creation(?) is listing badly while the rats had abandoned ship dockside even before the ship left port. There's no amount of damage control that can save it.

Best to have their orchestra of nitwit party patriarchs keep playing their theme song "Just Dropped in to See What Condition my Condition Was In" as they sink into those freezing waters of disgrace and obscurity. (Yeh, who are we kidding. Golden Liferafts anyone?)

Build a new ship that includes collision avoidance next time around. Modernize the controls, infrastructure and superstructure. Hire a new Captain and crew. And as an afterthought, send some depth charges down on those arrogant assholes in the wheelhouse who confidently shouted out "FULL SPEED AHEAD!!"

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[Starbuck1975]

I don't think the GOP would go so far as to replace Trump unless he said something so completely unforgivable that he'd have no choice but to bow out.

The simple reason: the effort involved in getting a new candidate in place. Not only would this person have to get up to speed very quickly, the party would have to retool its campaign strategy virtually overnight. And that's assuming that the new candidate is seen as a strong replacement. It's entirely possible that a new candidate would be treated as a sign of weakness, as evidence that the the GOP either couldn't field a strong initial candidate or doesn't respect the will of primary voters.

No matter what, the GOP must be dreading the next debate. Clinton won the first one by letting Trump stew in his own juices -- imagine what she'll do now that Trump can't just put out a "wrong!" lie and hope people buy it. The Republicans had better do some soul searching ahead of 2020, because they can't keep maintaining the kind of party culture that led to Trump's nomination in the first place.

Retooling should be fairly easy, as the new candidate would presumably run under a "not Clinton" strategy while denying Clinton her "not Trump" strategy. The Republicans could put the goofy conservative Baldwin in as their candidate and have a better chance than with Trump right now.

 

[Commodus]

Retooling should be fairly easy, as the new candidate would presumably run under a "not Clinton" strategy while denying Clinton her "not Trump" strategy. The Republicans could put the goofy conservative Baldwin in as their candidate and have a better chance than with Trump right now.

I see your point and think it could happen. My concern is that it would alienate voters who thought that they were getting one thing and are suddenly getting another. Even if the new candidate had a fully-formed policy in place, you'd have a lot of people wondering why there are suddenly no plans to "build the wall" or ban all Muslim immigrants. You'd have a better candidate, for sure, but logic doesn't really factor into Trump supporters' views as it is... it's all about the emotional appeal of a charismatic 'outsider,' and they won't get that if an establishment candidate jumps in.

 

[WelshBloke]

So if Trump gets shot, and the GOP leaders express disbelief and sorrow over this.

After their... momentary pause for grief.

What happens then?

 

[MongGrel]

So if Trump gets shot, and the GOP leaders express disbelief and sorrow over this.

After their... momentary pause for grief.

What happens then?

I'd be happy if Biggles held him hostage in a comfy chair till he expired.

 

[WelshBloke]

I'd be happy if Biggles held him hostage in a comfy chair till he expired.

I'm thinking that, at the moment, its the GOP that want him "offed".

If, by some hideous freak of fate, he becomes president then there'll be a hilarious few years of assassination attempts.

 

[Commodus]

I don't want Trump hurt. It'd just fuel some of his supporters and derail an already fragile democratic process. Besides, if by some odd chance he is elected, the most likely outcome is disappointing performance that guarantees a Democrat win in 2020. Heck, I'm half-expecting some major scandal or diplomatic row that cuts his term short through a forced resignation. Trump is his own worst enemy.

 

[Ichinisan]

I don't think it helps as much as you think. I doubt there's any Republican I could see myself voting for this year. And although I won't vote for Hillary there are several other Democrats I'd vote for. All counterfactual I know but doubt I'm alone.

Yeah. I'd even vote for Biden. I think he's honest.

 

[yllus]

GOP is making a move; no longer spending money on Trump's campaign but instead focusing downstream:

https://twitter.com/ddale8/status/784902940360318976

 

[theeedude]

GOP is making a move; no longer spending money on Trump's campaign but instead focusing downstream:

https://twitter.com/ddale8/status/784902940360318976

Bunch of RINOs, good luck turning out the deplorables.

 

[Jaskalas]

Trump is going to go all in on attacking Bill Clinton. A hand that Republicans lost on already in 1998. An issue that Hillary had at least 20 years of practice on, and Trump just decided to desperately start trying. After Trump has effectively admitted molesting women. He may as well scream Banzai!!! while doing it.

You're attacking Trump as being a rude, crude, womanizer. Bill Clinton is all those and more.
Clintons are the perfect foil for such an attack given they're no better than Trump.

 

[MongGrel]

You're attacking Trump as being a rude, crude, womanizer. Bill Clinton is all those and more.
Clintons are the perfect foil for such an attack given they're no better than Trump.

Nah, Bill is a cool Blues sax guy.



I doubt he ever had to rape anyone.

Trump is just a walking asshole.

 

[nickqt]

You're attacking Trump as being a rude, crude, womanizer. Bill Clinton is all those and more.
Clintons are the perfect foil for such an attack given they're no better than Trump.

Yes, all the audio clips of Bill talking about his daughter being a nice piece of ass with other grown men is the exact same as Strongman Trump talking about his daughter being a nice piece of ass with other grown men. You're exactly right.

Although, I wasn't aware that Bill Clinton was Strongman Trumps opponent in November.

 

[theeedude]

You're attacking Trump as being a rude, crude, womanizer. Bill Clinton is all those and more.
Clintons are the perfect foil for such an attack given they're no better than Trump.

That's you opinion. Trump saying he grabbed women by the pussy is a fact.

 

[theeedude]

You're attacking Trump as being a rude, crude, womanizer. Bill Clinton is all those and more.
Clintons are the perfect foil for such an attack given they're no better than Trump.

Are you saying Trump invited someone he thought was a rapist to his wedding and let him touch Melania? Sick fvck.

 

[Jhhnn]

Retooling should be fairly easy, as the new candidate would presumably run under a "not Clinton" strategy while denying Clinton her "not Trump" strategy. The Republicans could put the goofy conservative Baldwin in as their candidate and have a better chance than with Trump right now.

That might have been true a month or even six weeks ago but there are only 4 weeks left.

It's a perfectly timed slime attack that the swiftboaters would be proud of. The best part is that it's Donald's own slime.

 

[theeedude]

I am really looking forward to Reince's post mortem for this election.

 

[Jhhnn]

I am really looking forward to Reince's post mortem for this election.

Trump may have come out of nowhere but the seething discontent among the Repub base didn't. It's the product of their own divisive wedge issues & anti gubmint propaganda. They lost control of it, destroyed their own credibility. It's evolved into some sort of insatiable negativity & disrespect that's destroyed many societies.

It's also a product of the ruthless application of the power of Capitalist wealth against the good of the people. They've been utterly insincere about it for decades as their policy has shifted income from the middle class to the financial elite.

 

[glenn1]

Trump may have come out of nowhere but the seething discontent among the Repub base didn't. It's the product of their own divisive wedge issues & anti gubmint propaganda. They lost control of it, destroyed their own credibility. It's evolved into some sort of insatiable negativity & disrespect that's destroyed many societies.

It's also a product of the ruthless application of the power of Capitalist wealth against the good of the people. They've been utterly insincere about it for decades as their policy has shifted income from the middle class to the financial elite.

It's also the clueless thinking of people on the progressive side that their "solutions" offer anything to these same people. It's always just another round of "they're voting against their own self-interest" when the people saying it have no clue of what their true self-interest is.

 

[nickqt]

It's also the clueless thinking of people on the progressive side that their "solutions" offer anything to these same people. It's always just another round of "they're voting against their own self-interest" when the people saying it have no clue of what their true self-interest is.

Hating and blaming Others for their own failures in life leads them to vote for people who are only interested in cutting their own taxes while giving them nothing in return.

They're lost and need economic help, along with a healthy understanding of how objective, observable reality works. Unfortunately, they're too busy regurgitating the garbage that Breitbart shits into their skulls onto forums before running away from it when it's pointed out for being disinformation that they've, yet again, fallen for.

And the more someone is told they're incorrect, the more that person doubles down on their incorrect thinking, because it's much more comfortable than having to admit that you've been lied to and believed it, for your entire political life.

People sure are complicated.

 

[zinfamous]

You're attacking Trump as being a rude, crude, womanizer. Bill Clinton is all those and more.
Clintons are the perfect foil for such an attack given they're no better than Trump.

How is Bill Clinton "all that and more"? By all legitimate accounts, Bill gets the tail because the tail wants Bill. It is quite the opposite with Trump, where all accounts show him to be an incompetent and lewd perv that simply causes women in his general vicinity to recoil in disgust. Women aren't the brainless, simple-minded vessels that the Trump-supporting virgins assume them to be--it takes wit and class to properly woo them. Trump has none of that. Trump doesn't even fucking read. He comes across as the 10th grader that he never grew out of, and women see this. (Voters see this too, btw)

Bill is a master. Oh, he also has never bragged about molesting them, much less suggesting that he would totally screw his own daughter. This is something that Trump does.

 

[Triloby]

The GOP has to be absolutely brain-dead to even think about forcing Trump out of the election. His supporters gravitated towards him because of his message and personality, which is something that Pence does not have. If Trump bows out of the election, there is no way in hell his supporters will ever consider voting for Pence in his absence. Pence has literally no charisma or personality that would get all of Trump's base to vote for him, and Pence would have the impossible task of trying to court women and minority voters at such a late point in this election. He may be able to garner support for all those Evangelists, Mormons, and such, but their numbers will never be as huge as having lots of women and minority voters under your belt (which Hillary has).

The GOP made their own fucking bed by backing Trump this election, now it's time for them to lie in it. They are way past the point of no return now.