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zinfamous

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Pence is Dan Quail 2.0.

I'd find it very amusing if Trump bowed out, but I do not see that happening.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/paul-ryan-sickened-trump-sexist-rants-article-1.2822123

I don't know man. Dan Quail was, afaik, the first confirmed moron to run for such a high profile public office (bested later only by Palin--I think we should leave Stockdale off the hook because that poor guy was by all accounts incredibly smart and a great Admiral, but just awful in such a public space).

I don't think Pence is the same in any way. He's scary, sure--but in an effective evil sort of way; not an aloof Forrest Gump-stumbling-on-the-button sort of way that was Quail.
 

MongGrel

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dang, did they bring it in on canoe?

I'm on the Gulf Coast, has actually been pretty quiet over here.

I doubt Pence is on the same level as Quail incompetence, but he is along the same lines and doubt a lot of things have manifested Nationally.

He was kinda heading out the door in Indiana to begin with.
 
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Wish the Trump campaign would just release this taped statement already. All this speculation and rumour is starting to give me hope he might finally give up. I know it's unlikely but a boy can dream.

I just see no reason for an apology to take this long. To let it get to this point without anything.
 

Ichinisan

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For the Republican Party, it would have been worse if Trump actually got elected. Much worse.
 

Bitek

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The video he just released doesn't seem like he's anywhere close to throwing in the towel.

This will get ugly
 

ivwshane

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The video he just released doesn't seem like he's anywhere close to throwing in the towel.

This will get ugly

This will get ugly? I thought things were already ugly! Holy shit!
 
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compuwiz1

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Trump's ego won't allow him to drop out. I still think he and Hillary are in this together. The show will go on until the ending credits pass the screen. I wonder what his pay-off will be in the end? Gotta admit, he's done a fine acting job. He ought to be in the movies!
 

Bitek

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This will get ugly? I thought things were already ugly! Holy shit!

Yeah, well we're grading on a curve this year.

We haven't gone nuclear yet. You know this isn't even the worst thing yet. This is merely a teaser.
 

theeedude

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Feb 5, 2006
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Republicans need Trump's deplorable supporters to turn out or they will be completely blown out.
 

Muse

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Jul 11, 2001
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he can't bankrupt his way outta this, can he?
Sure he can. He can complain that the media (under the thumb of the progressives/liberals) did a job on him, that he really was the candidate of the people but was torpedoed. It's his means of saving grace and in his mind, sufficient.
 

Jhhnn

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Heh. The Repub party is like a woman locked into a rollercoaster ride with a randy Donald Trump. They'll get groped until the ride is over... I'm sure some will recall it as the most exciting ride of their lives.
 

theeedude

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https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...0b5b7a-8d68-11e6-bff0-d53f592f176e_story.html
Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump said in an interview Saturday that he would not drop out of the race under any circumstances, following calls from several prominent GOP members to do so.

“I’d never withdraw. I’ve never withdrawn in my life,” Trump told The Washington Post in a phone call from his home in Trump Tower in New York. “No, I’m not quitting this race. I have tremendous support.”

“People are calling and saying, ‘Don’t even think about doing anything else but running,” Trump said when asked about GOP defections. “You have to see what’s going on. The real story is that people have no idea the support. I don’t know how that’s going to boil down but people have no idea the support.

Trump is not withdrawing, though maybe he should have with this one:
hunt30n-9-web.jpg
 

glenn1

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Sep 6, 2000
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I hate to admit it but, please, please, please, stay in the race Mr. Orange Dick.

I don't think it helps as much as you think. I doubt there's any Republican I could see myself voting for this year. And although I won't vote for Hillary there are several other Democrats I'd vote for. All counterfactual I know but doubt I'm alone.
 

Jaskalas

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Yeah, Sunday is going to be a big deal...
If last time is any indication, all we'll get is a bumbling oaf that can't even throw a punch off some very low hanging fruit.

A townhall? One person after another asking Trump how he can defend being Hitler, asks him to just leave, etc. It'll be both fascinating and highly uncomfortable to watch.
 

yllus

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I've seen his type before. People like Mr. Trump would rather die than lose face. He will be there to gather votes come November.

In any case, up here in Toronto we've seen this exact situation play out. Rob Ford became very sick, and despite ceasing campaigning still got ~40% of the vote. It's still going to be close.
 

khon

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There is zero chance he bows out quietly, but quite a high chance that he loses, and then claims the election was rigged against him.

If he gets enough of his supporters thinking the election was stolen from them, things could get really ugly really fast.
 

IndyColtsFan

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So it's highly unlikely that Republicans can do anything about Trump, and almost equally unlikely that Trump would bow out on his own. But what's to stop Pence from jumping ship--especially if he wants to salvage any possibility of running on the national stage in the future? If Pence were to drop out (on the heels of a winning debate performance) would he really by labeled a traitor by the GOP, or would he be praised by conservatives and evangelicals? The even bigger question--who would replace him?

Pence wins regardless IMO:

1. Had he not taken the VP slot, he had a very tough battle to be re-elected governor and had a very solid chance of losing. He would've had a rematch against John Gregg, who he narrowly defeated in 2012. So, taking the VP spot was an easy way out of that spot and would put him in the national spotlight.
2. If Trump somehow wins the election (which isn't going to happen), Pence gets the VP spot and would likely be the next Republican nominee.
3. If Trump loses the election, Pence is going to look like the sane statesman of the two and still come out as a frontrunner in 2020.
4. If Pence got fed up and dropped out, he would look principled and be the frontrunner in 2020.

It was no accident that Pence didn't defend Trump in the debate - Pence knows Trump is indefensible and is positioning himself for 2020. As a resident of the state where Pence is the governor, I can tell you he pretty much sucks and rode Mitch Daniels' coat tails.
 

Meghan54

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There is zero chance he bows out quietly, but quite a high chance that he loses, and then claims the election was rigged against him.

If he gets enough of his supporters thinking the election was stolen from them, things could get really ugly really fast.

But...but...butbutbutbut...the online polls show him winning!!!! 'Splain that!

/s
 
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theeedude

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Trump is going to go all in on attacking Bill Clinton. A hand that Republicans lost on already in 1998. An issue that Hillary had at least 20 years of practice on, and Trump just decided to desperately start trying. After Trump has effectively admitted molesting women. He may as well scream Banzai!!! while doing it.