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Pavel the self-admitted P&N troll.
You have to do better than this to earn your vodka, Pavel.
You have to do better than this to earn your vodka, Pavel.
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Trump is simply the greatest con artist America has ever produced. Of course he's a sociopath. They all are.
Believing he's anything other than brilliant is a huge mistake. What happens in Libs' heads isn't at all like what happens in the heads of people who are susceptible. Trump really, really, really fucks with their minds. It wouldn't be possible if they weren't already halfway to La-la land from decades of extremely successful GOP agitprop & lies.
Believing he's anything other than brilliant is a huge mistake. What happens in Libs' heads isn't at all like what happens in the heads of people who are susceptible. Trump really, really, really fucks with their minds. It wouldn't be possible if they weren't already halfway to La-la land from decades of extremely successful GOP agitprop & lies.
glenn1
Lifer
- Sep 6, 2000
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Anything can be “high functioning” if you define the requirement and acceptance criteria low enough.
woolfe9998
Lifer
- Apr 8, 2013
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Yes, and in the case of sociopathy, it doesn't seem to be that meaningful a distinction since some 25% of corporate CEO's are said to be sociopaths. Accordingly, plenty of sociopaths are "high functioning."
trenchfoot
Lifer
- Aug 5, 2000
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He's nothing but a schoolyard bully who only respects other men who are more of a bully that he is. Everyone else, especially women, are beneath him.
That he has wealth has only made him that much worse of a human being. That he has managed to con his way into the Oval Office has made him a monster.
That he has wealth has only made him that much worse of a human being. That he has managed to con his way into the Oval Office has made him a monster.
woolfe9998
Lifer
- Apr 8, 2013
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If Trump was so brilliant he could hoodwink people who aren't politically conservative. Yet if Trump had entered politics as a liberal, with liberal policy positions, he would never have gotten anywhere. The point being, that certain personality types appeal to conservatives and different personality types appeal to liberals. Trump's personality is a natural fit for conservatives, especially conservatives at this moment in our history, the way they have been primed by conservative media for decades before him.
For example, Trump has always been the sort of person to childishly attack anyone who opposes him. It isn't brilliance. It's emotional immaturity. But it plays to conservatives right now because they love to see liberals and democrats childishly attacked.
Another example, he's always been a bigot. It isn't brilliance. It's bigotry. Which side of the political spectrum does this this trait appeal to?
Third example, Trump lacks morality. He lies. Conservatives right now are quite credulous to liars who tell them anything they want to hear. Even bad liars, which Trump is.
Unlike a brilliant conman, Trump is not a chameleon. He's always the same. Because he doesn't have any self-insight or self-control. Which is why he can never adapt himself to appeal to those not already predisposed to be enthralled by who he always is. It isn't brilliance. He's just the right person at the right time to gain support of a certain bloc.
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He did just that in 2016 with swing voters. Lots of people were thinking with the head of their dick instead of the head on their shoulders when he got done with 'em. More than a few have apparently come to their senses given the 2018 election & he'll give more people reason to do the same before it's over.
woolfe9998
Lifer
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I see no evidence of brilliance. Steve Bannon, who is highly intelligent, groomed Trump as a candidate and pretty much fed him most of his policy position. Trade protectionism, for example. He would likely not have won those mid western states he barely won without that. But it didn't come from Trump himself.
Think about it. When you listen to Trump and see him lying, do you find him remotely convincing? I've known good liars who can sound exactly like they're telling the truth. Trump isn't one of them. It just doesn't take a good liar to fool certain people right now.
What shouldn't be underestimated is Trump's innate appeal to a certain class of voters. What shouldn't be overestimated is the ability of democrats to win enough votes with their messaging.
So far as Trump's "brilliance," I'm afraid it's impossible under-estimate that.
FelixDeCat
Lifer
- Aug 4, 2000
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You see no evidence of brilliance in Trump? And what makes you more brilliant? The fact that you have more billions than he does?
If you are referring to political brilliance, there is always room for differing opinions, but we are only 2 years into his presidency and despite a hostile media and treatment by Democrats that no previous president has endured will likely be re-elected.
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And yet nobody but Trump could have carried it off. The whole thing is as much about style as it is about substance.
zinfamous
No Lifer
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zinfamous
No Lifer
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how many billions does trump have?
will he ever show us his billions?
prove it, idiot.
zinfamous
No Lifer
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Yes, Obama was fucking great for the USA. His economy is smoking.
But of course Trump tacked on trillions in deficit spending, for no reason. You know that, of course...otherwise you are illiterate. Is that what you are saying?
DarthKyrie
Golden Member
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I love how they point out that more people are working than at any other time in our history it makes me want to reach out and smack them in the head. They can't figure out that the reason for this is that there are more people living in this country than there ever has been we're nearing 350 Million rapidly.
FelixDeCat
Lifer
- Aug 4, 2000
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If you cant take it from Forbes, who can you take it from? Their educated estimate is $3,100,000,000.00+
https://www.forbes.com/donald-trump/#110579012899
Don't be jealous of Trump's billions, only a stable genius could have made this much money.
Muse
Lifer
- Jul 11, 2001
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The man is proof positive that (in the words of Jesus Christ) it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than it is for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God.
Matthew 19:24
I tell you the truth, it is hard for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven. Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God.
Forsooth! Very especially a lyin' son-of-a-bitch rich man.
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He's also proof of the adage that "the best way to make a small fortune is to start with a large one".
This is one reason why he doesn't meet the criteria listed by the OP - he has no charm because he has always had money as a substitute.
I don't know or care whether he's 'intelligent' or not. That's a very hard-to-define quality anyway. He clearly has a certain level of cunning and some degree of political instinct. But there's no way to separate his 'smartness' from the particular circumstances of his life (born rich, white, and a narcissistic guy in a culture that rewards, and increasingly demands, narcissism).
He's certainly not very articulate or empathic or reflective. Mostly he's just a bit of an arse.
dawp
Lifer
- Jul 2, 2005
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http://fortune.com/2018/04/20/trump-lied-wealth-forbes-400-list/
take anything about trumps wealth with a grain of salt
Jaskalas
Lifer
- Jun 23, 2004
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An intelligent man, who cannot even read reports. Who needs information in a child's picture book format. Who is incapable of preparation for... anything. Who flies off the handle in fits of rage. Who often, and very publicly, live tweets said outbursts and lives in his own delusional world. He has the traits of a drunk used car salesman, not a rocket scientist.
cytg111
Lifer
- Mar 17, 2008
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Would someone have to be brilliant to spot a brilliant person? Is that what you are suggesting? I am not saying I am brilliant but I am saying that is bonkers.
He cant read. He cant write. He cant really speak either.
He can con(you) and he can crime.
Sure he has some social iq points going on, and a sick drive for recognition(probably cause he didnt get it as a child).. But thats it.
umbrella39
Lifer
- Jun 11, 2004
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This isn't by accident. He is TRYING his best to outdo more successful troll accounts... He is still, however, a success every time he is quoted directly.
His ilk quickly creates a new account when the mothership account gets no replies.
Attention whores seek attention. We win by denying it...
BurnItDwn
Lifer
- Oct 10, 1999
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So ... looks like .. the poll would be ...
97% agree trump is "Low functioning sociopath" on account of his illiteracy and dotardary.
3% think trump is genious truthsayer.
0% think trimp is "high functioning"
97% agree trump is "Low functioning sociopath" on account of his illiteracy and dotardary.
3% think trump is genious truthsayer.
0% think trimp is "high functioning"
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