Is this writer just bitter or does she have a point?

[Skunkwourk]

The hell with her. Theres nothing wrong with men choosing to stay single and happy and doing the things they enjoy. I fail to see how that makes men children.

EDIT: I honestly think us men, still secretly look for that good girl, the one thats willing to compromise to make things work, but its become a lot harder to find her now. I see more and more girls who proclaim their independence and express their "right" to get what they want (which is perfectly fine). What I don't understand is why they get so angry when men want the same.

 

[Ricochet]

What the author needs to do is to get young women to stop opening their legs for these so called "child-men" until married. Quite simply, the incentive for marriage is not what it use to be.

 

[bignateyk]

I have no intention of getting married until I am 40, and i'm still debating if I ever want kids. Maybe i'll just adopt. I enjoy my life and my free time far too much to deal with a marriage and kids anytime soon.

Idiocracy will be playing out in full force over the next few generations...

 

[bignateyk]

Will's unemployment is part of a more general passionlessness. To pick up women, for instance, he pretends to have a son and joins a single-parent organization; the plight of the single mothers means nothing to him. For Will, women are simply fleshy devices that dispense sex, and sex is just another form of entertainment, a "fantastic carnal alternative to drink, drugs and a great night out, but nothing much more than that."

Or maybe the stupid slut should have learned her lesson the first time around and stop opening her legs to every guy who comes along.

 

[Wreckem]

Originally posted by: Farang
I didn't read all of it but from what I gather this can be thrown right back at her with women. They are the same as she is describing men in this article.

No most are far worse.

 

[Jeff7]

A point to make: Feminism is just fine - it's about equality, that's it.
Feminist extremists are the problem, those who believe everything anywhere is some sort of covert attempt to marginalize women.
The extremists are the ones who make the news and get the ratings, and thus give "feminism" a bad name.



Anyhow, I'm going with the "bitter" bit. She talks like it's a problem with men waiting longer to get married. So what? It's not like we're dropping dead by age 40 due to mild infections or dangerous farm machinery. What's the rush?

 

[Wuffsunie]

Originally posted by: bignateyk

Will's unemployment is part of a more general passionlessness. To pick up women, for instance, he pretends to have a son and joins a single-parent organization; the plight of the single mothers means nothing to him. For Will, women are simply fleshy devices that dispense sex, and sex is just another form of entertainment, a "fantastic carnal alternative to drink, drugs and a great night out, but nothing much more than that."

Or maybe the stupid slut should have learned her lesson the first time around and stop opening her legs to every guy who comes along.

Next to planned parenthood, a single parent group is an ideal place to meet women you know will put out.

 

[soccerballtux]

Originally posted by: Farang
I didn't read all of it but from what I gather this can be thrown right back at her with women. They are the same as she is describing men in this article.

I agree. The reason men are doing this is because we've learned most women can't be trusted. They shape up by ~28-30; but then they get marriage on their mind and become another form of manipulative.

 

[1prophet]

A bitter film for a bitter lady

Ah L'Amour

 

[everman]

Hey it's not like the only changes that have occurred are with men, women have changed at least as much and probably more once you factor in workforce changes.

 

[DangerAardvark]

Why does she get to define what a man is? I have two more testes than her (presumably) and I say that a Y chromosome gets you into Man City (not a real city).

 

[ktehmok]

Originally posted by: Chaotic42
Yeah, there aren't a lot of horribly irresponsible 20-something women out there who may have managed to crank out a few kids of widely varied hues and sizes. Maybe if American women made it worth-while to actually marry them, more people might get married.

It's a two-way street, darlin'.

Amen.

You wanna "keep your options open"? Then don't expect a ring. Expect men to treat you the way they perceive you.

 

[EGGO]

Originally posted by: 91TTZ
Cliff notes for those too lazy to read the whole article:

"I'm a strong, empowered feminist and I'm mad as hell that men actively avoid me."

I was going to ask for cliffs. Thank you friend. :thumbsup:

 

[Throckmorton]

Originally posted by: sonambulo
$20 says the author is ugly or has no tits.


edit: and a quick search proves me right. YES.

edit 2: she is a senior fellow at the Manhattan Institute? OH WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT SHIT

The Manhattan Institute is a "free market think tank".

 

[SlitheryDee]

This article is written on the presumption that women automatically begin adulthood at the "proper" time, while men must be "made" men by interaction with, and defined by, women. How dare these SYM's shirk their cultural responsibilities by doing such inane things like being promiscuous (with their seemingly willing female counterparts), going to "the club" (where aforementioned females so innocently happen to be), and playing video games (an activity which few females seem to understand, and therefore cannot tolerate), when they should so obviously be searching for a wife to dote upon and fold clothes for.

Please. The jobless man in "About a Boy" is hardly the poster child for today's twenty-something man, and and our ardent refusal to settle down and provide you with a stable, uninteresting life filled with foot massages and babies isn't a sign of male degeneration. Female dependence upon men is at the root of this article, or else the author would have been so aloof and oblivious of this perceived "issue" as to have not noticed it at all.

 

[xeemzor]

She wonders why marriages have been declining with a 50%+ divorce rate? In what era is she living in?

 

[theeedude]

Originally posted by: Throckmorton

Originally posted by: sonambulo
$20 says the author is ugly or has no tits.


edit: and a quick search proves me right. YES.

edit 2: she is a senior fellow at the Manhattan Institute? OH WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT SHIT

The Manhattan Institute is a "free market think tank".

Well, as a free market think tank, they should understand that American women can't compete in the free market. Not even against Halo 3.
Hey ladies, if you are going to party and fvck random losers until you become old hags and decide to settle down, don't expect guys who you thought were boring because they held a real job or got a useful education to drop everything and line up to support you. They are either taken by other women who had a clue long time before you did, not interested in settling down with you, or both.

 

[sonambulo]

Originally posted by: Throckmorton
The Manhattan Institute is a "free market think tank".

Uh...thanks for the corollary?

edit: Parheps me internet speak no translate good with tubes. Basically, it wasn't a question so much as it was me unleashing the fury (caps) when I learned who she was working for. Everything kind of clicked and the new information took precedent over my tittay joke.

 

[Zenmervolt]

Not only is no one asking that today's twenty- or thirtysomething become a responsible husband and father ? that is, grow up ? but a freewheeling marketplace gives him everything he needs to settle down in pig's heaven indefinitely.

So a man's place is as a husband and father and he's not fully realized otherwise?

How long do you think it would take for the author of that article to castrate me if I said the same thing about women? Really, the whole article is nothing more than an attempt to paste the old stereotypes of "a woman's place" onto men.

ZV

 

[Captante]

Originally posted by: joshsquall
Blah blah blah, I'm a stupid feminist bitch, blah blah blah.

Pretty much how I read it too.

 

[Orsorum]

Originally posted by: Zenmervolt

Not only is no one asking that today's twenty- or thirtysomething become a responsible husband and father ? that is, grow up ? but a freewheeling marketplace gives him everything he needs to settle down in pig's heaven indefinitely.

So a man's place is as a husband and father and he's not fully realized otherwise?

How long do you think it would take for the author of that article to castrate me if I said the same thing about women? Really, the whole article is nothing more than an attempt to paste the old stereotypes of "a woman's place" onto men.

ZV

Agree.

 

[theprodigalrebel]

Originally posted by: Zenmervolt
How long do you think it would take for the author of that article to castrate me if I said the same thing about women?

...and we have a winner! :thumbsup:

 

[jagec]

Wow. I've never seen such a festering pile of poorly-hidden elitism and condescension. Written into this article is the innate assumption that all men are ignorant savages who need mature female guidance to hope to achieve adulthood.

Even Apple has nothing on this girl.

 

[zerocool1]

Originally posted by: vi_edit
2/3 of the pharmacists my wife works with are single women, aged 25-35, and make a boatload of money.

They have just as much fun as the boys do. Probably more so.

Women joining the workforce and making their own career has eliminated the necessity of a man to provide for them. They don't want to stay at home and crank out kids like they did for the past how many centuries.

So the men don't have to grow up and take care of somebody else. The women don't have to grow up and take care of somebody else. Both sides are unburdended by a lot of baggage and responsibility.

It's most certainly not a one sided issue.

agreed

 

[Special K]

She seems to suggest that a man only has 2 places in life - either he is an immature guy whose only source of entertainment is pr0n, video games, and beer, or he is responsible and has a wife, house and kids. What about something in between? Can't a guy be mature and past the drunk/random hookup phase, but not ready for a wife and kids, and/or not own a house? Who is she to define what a guy's life goals must be?