Is this true?

AGodspeed

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Seems like the guy knows what he's talking about. I saw an article he wrote on ZDNet about the Linux OS and he seems like a knowledgeable guy to me.

Is this quote so hard to believe:

The 3D graphics card manufacturers have left all the 2D graphics processing to the CPU.
 

MasterHoss

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It's hard for me to believe that statement because I'm not sure how you would have I guess onboard video for just 2d and an optional AGP card for 3d. It sort of falls back to the days of having a daughter card for 2d and the primary video card for 3d--just seems too old to believe.
 

odog

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actually he's wrong...

since the TNT nvidia has done all windows GUI based operations in hardware, i assume that the others do the same as well..... or do at least most of them in hardware..
 

AGodspeed

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ohh and that guy kinda reminds me of a fat ass ted kaczynski :p

Oh OK, now I believe your previous post. ;)
 

Wingznut

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"Seems like the guy knows what he's talking about. "

Sorry, but I'll have to disagree. A few examples:


"Apparently, what you don't feel you really need is Intel?s Pentium 4, in any of its iterations, including the latest 2GHz version. Sales have been slow in a market where the bleeding edge is typically gobbled up as fast as it can be produced."

I'm not sure which market he's been following the past nine months... But lately, the "bleeding edge" has not been all that fantastic of a gravy train. And contrary to his belief, it is not the P4's fault.

"... but if you package it (P4-1.7ghz) with Windows XP or Windows 2000, it will perform within a hair's distance of a 2GHz Pentium 4 system running Windows ME..."

What's the point of mixing the OS's around?

"...and that was the operating system of choice for the first three 2GHz systems I've seen. (Of course it is. Intel wants to mainstream the Pentium 4 and Windows 2000 is for business. Or, to be more specific, Windows 2000 is not for games.)"

Ah, that explains it. Wait... No it doesn't. That makes no sense at all. Where is this guy getting this crap?

" RDRAM systems, if they still exist after Intel's current contract with Rambus expires..."

Heh, five days after this article was written, a new 5-year agreement was signed by Intel and Rambus.

This guy really has his fingers on the pulse of the industry, doesn't he? ;)
 

rommel

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well if you just want to start another amd vs intel crap fest then go for it but he makes his point well enough....the p4 is certainly capable....for now i am sticking with AMD but there is no shame in owning or purchasing a p4 and its more often then not stable intel platform...its just chevy vs ford....i like chevy
 

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<< Screw Chevy vs Ford.... I'd take Mopar any day. >>

So if AMD is Chevy and Intel is Ford, what's Mopar? IBM PPC?

My guess, because I'm too lazy to read the article, is that the guy who said that all 2d is done by the CPU is mistaken. Since the olden days of S3's dominance of the graphics chip market, 2d's always been done by the graphics card, and 3d had been relegated to the CPU or an add-on card until modern times. I'd be surprised if the 2d functions were moved off the graphics card, just doesn't sound right.
 

AGodspeed

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What's the point of mixing the OS's around?

Bill O'Brien's points out that the first 3 2GHz P4 systems he saw chose WinME as the OS of choice (I don't know where he saw these 3 systems) and so he makes the point that for $369 less, you can purchase a 1.7 GHz P4 running XP or 2k and get very nearly the same performance as a 2 GHz P4 running WinME.

His point isn't very strong now because you can easily purchase a Win2k/XP based 2GHz P4 system from most any OEM today. The first 3 2GHz P4 systems he saw all had WinME on it, so what, it's a moot point now.

I'm not sure which market he's been following the past nine months... But lately, the "bleeding edge" has not been all that fantastic of a gravy train.

That's his whole point! He's saying that typically, bleeding edge products are gobbled up. But that this is not so with high end products in the market today (P4 included). Read this part again: Sales have been slow in a market where the bleeding edge is typically gobbled up as fast as it can be produced.

And contrary to his belief, it is not the P4's fault.

Where did you get the idea he was blaming the P4?

Heh, five days after this article was written, a new 5-year agreement was signed by Intel and Rambus.

Give him a break, he can't tell the future. ;)