Is this Time for New CPU or ..........

[Mir96TA]

I need to switch to SSHDD or SSD or and 4 Gig more mem ?
here is the Hardware

 

[itafak]

but why?
I built a system with almost identical power today, and everything flys on it!
All the games are playable on it on highest settings.

Re-install your windows for a boost in speed?

 

[nurturedhate]

It really depends on what you use it for. For most daily tasks that cpu is completely fine. For games and such it is probably starting to show its age.

 

[Mir96TA]

I notice Diablo III get little bit laggy
My res are 2560X1440 with evey thing Max

 

[rgallant]

time to upgrade but to what?
3770k most will do 4.7 with a good cooler
4770k [see poll] might not do 4.3-4.5 on water tough call imo.[look at members at 4.0]

http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2367978&highlight=poll+haswell

 

[Arkaign]

If you have a MC, get :

4670K + Asrock Z87 + 8GB DDR3. The Sata, PCIe, and USB improvements alone are staggering since S775.

It will be a mind-melting increase in performance. Bonus is that the C2Q + DDR2 + Mobo still get really good $$ on the used market.

 

[rgallant]

I notice Diablo III get little bit laggy
My res are 2560X1440 with evey thing Max

why is only wifi showing up do you not connect to dsl /cable on wire ?
-also 8 gb is norm. today for any gaming imo

 

[SPBHM]

QX9650? you can probably sell it on ebay for the same price as a new 4670K, so yes... I would do that, before the prices drop more.

 

[Mir96TA]

time to upgrade but to what?
3770k most will do 4.7 with a good cooler
4770k [see poll] might not do 4.3-4.5 on water tough call imo.[look at members at 4.0]

http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2367978&highlight=poll+haswell

I dunno guy below wants me to goto Goodie store MicroCenter (Wallet says no no) heee

If you have a MC, get :

4670K + Asrock Z87 + 8GB DDR3. The Sata, PCIe, and USB improvements alone are staggering since S775.

It will be a mind-melting increase in performance. Bonus is that the C2Q + DDR2 + Mobo still get really good $$ on the used market.

What sorta dent in the wallet I am looking at ?
How much I can get out $$$ if I were to sell MB + CPU and Mem ?

why is only wifi showing up do you not connect to dsl /cable on wire ?
-also 8 gb is norm. today for any gaming imo

2 /25 on Internet connection.
Most of my computers connected via 2.4 / 5 Gig N connections.
only 1 with Wired connection.
according to Winows perfomance I am not using more then 80% memory at all. In which 50% is cached!
May be I should upgrade to 8 Gig ?

 

[frozentundra123456]

How do other games play? Diablo 3 tends to have lag problems, not sure what the cause.

Can you overclock that cpu and see if performance improves?

 

[Ken g6]

What kind of RAM do you have? Most mobos for Core 2 only supported DDR2, but a few supported DDR3. If you have DDR3, great, see if you can add more. If you have DDR2, but your board supports DDR3, even better, as you can buy 8GB DDR3 and then sell the DDR2 for some price that should cover most or all of that. If your board doesn't support DDR3, I wouldn't bother upgrading RAM.

Is that screen accurate that your Core 2 is only at 3GHz? Do you have a good cooler on that? If not, go ahead and get one and try overclocking some more.

Yes, an SSD would be nice, but would only help in games with loading textures and such for new scenes. What kind of budget does your wallet have?

How much I can get out $$$ if I were to sell MB + CPU and Mem ?

Technically, price checks aren't allowed on the forums. Sorry. Go look around Ebay.

 

[Mir96TA]

How do other games play? Diablo 3 tends to have lag problems, not sure what the cause.

Can you overclock that cpu and see if performance improves?

Need for Speed Most wanted run fine
I didn't notice any issue in other games either

What kind of RAM do you have? Most mobos for Core 2 only supported DDR2, but a few supported DDR3. If you have DDR3, great, see if you can add more. If you have DDR2, but your board supports DDR3, even better, as you can buy 8GB DDR3 and then sell the DDR2 for some price that should cover most or all of that. If your board doesn't support DDR3, I wouldn't bother upgrading RAM.

Is that screen accurate that your Core 2 is only at 3GHz? Do you have a good cooler on that? If not, go ahead and get one and try overclocking some more.

Yes, an SSD would be nice, but would only help in games with loading textures and such for new scenes. What kind of budget does your wallet have?

Technically, price checks aren't allowed on the forums. Sorry. Go look around Ebay.

It can only take DDR2

 

[nwo]

I would definitely start by upgrading to 8GB of RAM. 4GB doesn't cut it for most games unless you cut back on idle RAM usage by making your desktop look like windows 95 and closing 99% of background apps.

Other than that....

Two major causes of lag in Diablo 3 (from my experience) are:
#1: Wi-Fi
#2: CPU clock speed

In your case it could be both. Try a wired connection and see if that solves your problem. Unless you have a really legit wi-fi card on your PC, it will cause you to lag in crowded/action packed areas.

The other one is the CPU. Even though it's a really high resolution and CPU shouldn't play much of a role, it still does. Especially when you run into big groups of mobs. Try overclocking it to 4GHz and the lag should go away or at least subside. If it doesn't, then it's probably wi-fi. I doubt it's your GPU if you have a 7900 series card.

SSHD/SSD will not solve anything or get rid of your lag. It will only reduce your load screen times.

 

[frozentundra123456]

I have an i5, 3.0ghz, and was getting bad lag with very low cpu utilization and less than max gpu utilization. I attributed it to my wireless internet, but cant be sure.

 

[Mir96TA]

I would definitely start by upgrading to 8GB of RAM. 4GB doesn't cut it for most games unless you cut back on idle RAM usage by making your desktop look like windows 95 and closing 99% of background apps.

Other than that....

Two major causes of lag in Diablo 3 (from my experience) are:
#1: Wi-Fi
#2: CPU clock speed

In your case it could be both. Try a wired connection and see if that solves your problem. Unless you have a really legit wi-fi card on your PC, it will cause you to lag in crowded/action packed areas.

The other one is the CPU. Even though it's a really high resolution and CPU shouldn't play much of a role, it still does. Especially when you run into big groups of mobs. Try overclocking it to 4GHz and the lag should go away or at least subside. If it doesn't, then it's probably wi-fi. I doubt it's your GPU if you have a 7900 series card.

SSHD/SSD will not solve anything or get rid of your lag. It will only reduce your load screen times.

Can't do wired connection; its too much stuff to move around.
I usually get 2 up and 25 Down MB/s I get on speed check via WiFi.
Have not checked the local through output yet.
Not sure what you mean by legit WiFi ?
and yes GPU is 7970
I am trying to not O.C cause computer run 24/7 on HOT SEAT.
Even though heat sink is infamous cooler master hyper 212 evo
Which keeping CPU around 50c Tosty HOT

 

[nwo]

Can't do wired connection; its too much stuff to move around.
I usually get 2 up and 25 Down MB/s I get on speed check via WiFi.
Have not checked the local through output yet.
Not sure what you mean by legit WiFi ?
and yes GPU is 7970
I am trying to not O.C cause computer run 24/7 on HOT SEAT.
Even though heat sink is infamous cooler master hyper 212 evo
Which keeping CPU around 50c Tosty HOT

Your wifi speeds don't really matter. The game itself uses very little bandwidth so as long as you have broadband, you will not lag. However, the wifi adapter and router is what makes all the difference. Usually the wifi adapter is the one to blame though. Part of the problem is higher latency with a wifi connection, this latency tends to spike a lot higher once the wifi adapter gets saturated with sending/receiving too many packets that it can no longer keep up and it causes the latency to go up even higher which would cause in-game lag in Diablo 3.

What I have done is I have tried several cheap $10-15 wifi adapters, my integrated Asus wifi (z77 deluxe) as well as a Cisco wifi USB stick. All get massive lag in Diablo 3 when I run into huge mobs on mutliplayer. I narrowed it down to the wifi adapters because I actually happen to have a wifi extender which I use in my house. The wifi extender has ports on the back of it so that I can have a wired connection to nearby PCs while wirelessly getting the source connection from my wireless router. I used my wifi extender's wired connection and viola! All the lag was gone!

50*C is actually quite cool for a load temp, there is plenty of OC room there, and 4GHz is a pretty mild OC for your chip from the results I have seen around the web. 4GHz would definitely be within reach with a cooler that you already have.

But all that aside, I would still say start by upgrading to 8GB of RAM before anything else.

 

[Mir96TA]

For WiFi here is what I get when I get connected


My PC to gatway
Pinging 209.141.205.129 with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 209.141.205.129: bytes=32 time=8ms TTL=254
Reply from 209.141.205.129: bytes=32 time=7ms TTL=254
Reply from 209.141.205.129: bytes=32 time=7ms TTL=254
Reply from 209.141.205.129: bytes=32 time=7ms TTL=254

Ping statistics for 209.141.205.129:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 7ms, Maximum = 8ms, Average = 7ms

 

[Arkaign]

Don't add ram, DDR2 is retarded expensive. Just sell it all (it will sell for a lot), and get any Intel i5 or i7 in socket 1150 with a Z87 mobo, 8GB DDR3, and you're golden.

 

[sm625]

I dont know what HOT SEAT is, but if heat is an issue then that is one good reason to upgrade to a 22nm i5. It will produce less heat than that monster.

 

[Mir96TA]

I dont know what HOT SEAT is, but if heat is an issue then that is one good reason to upgrade to a 22nm i5. It will produce less heat than that monster.

HotSeat= Seat never get a chance come to room temperature; because some user is always sitting on it; and keeping it HOT
Mean Computer usage is 24/7

 

[nwo]

OK here is a simple test.

When you get lag during Diablo 3, if your ping turns yellow or red, it's your wifi.
If you just get choppy gameplay/fps at all times, you need more RAM.
If you get choppy gameplay/fps during big groups of mobs, you need to overclock your CPU.

 

[bigsnyder]

Overclock that CPU especially if you are on a P45 board, should easily hit 4Ghz like someone said. Even if it is P35 or x38/x48 board, still will probably hit 3.7Ghz. Those core2quads are still potent, but that have to be overclocked in order to hang with newer hardware. There are plenty of OC guides around, but if you don't add much voltage the heat will stay in check.

 

[Mir96TA]

OK here is a simple test.

When you get lag during Diablo 3, if your ping turns yellow or red, it's your wifi.
If you just get choppy gameplay/fps at all times, you need more RAM.
If you get choppy gameplay/fps during big groups of mobs, you need to overclock your CPU.

I don't wanna Sell on Ebay too much of a FEE etc.
I dunno what is other sites I can sell except forums Craig List and Kijiji.
Also I am in Toronto so no MC around here best place I think I can have is NCIX or Canada Computers.

Overclock that CPU especially if you are on a P45 board, should easily hit 4Ghz like someone said. Even if it is P35 or x38/x48 board, still will probably hit 3.7Ghz. Those core2quads are still potent, but that have to be overclocked in order to hang with newer hardware. There are plenty of OC guides around, but if you don't add much voltage the heat will stay in check.

I don't like to run O.C on 24/7 running machine. I know I can run this 3.
7 Gig as of right now. However I think I will eat the rest of the Life out.

 

[Mir96TA]

OK here is a simple test.

When you get lag during Diablo 3, if your ping turns yellow or red, it's your wifi.
If you just get choppy gameplay/fps at all times, you need more RAM.
If you get choppy gameplay/fps during big groups of mobs, you need to overclock your CPU.

How I would know my Pings are yellow ?
I use command line to ping Internet Gateway address

 

[Ajay]

I don't like to run O.C on 24/7 running machine. I know I can run this 3.
7 Gig as of right now. However I think I will eat the rest of the Life out.

If you have a large enough case, just put a really big air cooler on it and it should run 4 GHz in the 70s or lower (IIRC) - unless you live somewhere where it really hot and you don't have AC. Seems like the easiest fix for better gaming.

Opt.2: Save your pennies and build a new system when Intel Skylake comes out (~18 months).