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What are you guys talking about, Vereen had one bad game.

He didn't have a bad game per se, it wasn't a performance issue, he just got covered too much. He is someone that opposing defenses can and will cover now that Gronk is out.

MAYBE that changes with his game next week and he has a great game, but it's a risk. Not to mention, you can never tell who the main RB in any given Pats game will be.

Lacy and Stacy are clear starters, and both are on a roll right now. Stacy does face TB, which is mildly concerning, but Lacy faces the Steelers. Not worried about that.
 

MetalMat

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Week 16 DEF - TEN @ JAX, DET vs. NYG, or CLE @ NYJ ?

I would give the nod to Detroit but I have a bad feeling about that game. The Giants could come out of the gate and somehow steamroll Detroit to give any fantasy owners that started Detroit one final screw job for the season compliments of Tom Coughlin & Eli Manning.
 

dbk

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I'm starting Detroit in my championship game.. hehe

Flex Spot: SJax vs SF, Boykin vs PIT, Montee Ball vs Hou, or Pitta vs NE? Got Pitta in now.. also have Cobb - sneaky flex play??

Obviously if Rodgers comes back.. I would consider Boykin. As for Ball, I can picture Broncos going up huge and just pounding the rock with him.

I forgot I had Todman.. if MJD is out then Todman all the way
 
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T2urtle

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Need some lineup suggestions. PPR league.

QB/ LUCK
WR/ Garcon, Megatron, Dez
RB. Charles, Stacy.
TE. D. Walker
Flex. Rainey.
DEF. KC
K. Gostkowski

Bench. Pitta, Garrett Graham, Joique Bell, Greg Jennings. Buffalo

My TE and Flex are my spots of concern. I ran pitta and Rainey last week. They were bust. But Rainey was up against tough run D. This week he is against the Rams. I kinda like to play Jennings in for Rainey. Many people are telling me Pitta over Walker.

Also there are plenty of Defenses to pick up, I like KC but i think Luck and indy is going to do some damage. Titans and Lions along with a LOT of good matchups are up for grabs.

Need advice! You guys haven't lead me wrong yet!
 

glenn1

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I like your lineup as is. I wouldn't be concerned about switching Rainey-Pitta, or Walker-Pitta, but think it's not really an upgrade in either case.

As for the defenses, can't help you. Any time I've tried to stream a DEF this year (like DET this week) it hasn't worked out. The DST matchups always seem better on paper than reality - ask all those who picked up PHI to play against MIN last week.

So how about mine - pick a Flex for my standard scoring league - SJax, Todman, or Shane Vereen?
 

Kev

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I like your lineup as is. I wouldn't be concerned about switching Rainey-Pitta, or Walker-Pitta, but think it's not really an upgrade in either case.

As for the defenses, can't help you. Any time I've tried to stream a DEF this year (like DET this week) it hasn't worked out. The DST matchups always seem better on paper than reality - ask all those who picked up PHI to play against MIN last week.

So how about mine - pick a Flex for my standard scoring league - SJax, Todman, or Shane Vereen?

In my standard league I'm starting Todman over Vereen assuming MJD is out.
 
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As for the defenses, can't help you. Any time I've tried to stream a DEF this year (like DET this week) it hasn't worked out. The DST matchups always seem better on paper than reality - ask all those who picked up PHI to play against MIN last week.

God, the Eagles burned me so bad. Minnesota's third string RB helped ruin my day.
 

glenn1

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Important lineup update for anyone still in the playoffs -Saints just released Kicker Garrett Hartley.
 

SP33Demon

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Jun 22, 2001
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Need some lineup suggestions. PPR league.

QB/ LUCK
WR/ Garcon, Megatron, Dez
RB. Charles, Stacy.
TE. D. Walker
Flex. Rainey.
DEF. KC
K. Gostkowski

Bench. Pitta, Garrett Graham, Joique Bell, Greg Jennings. Buffalo

My TE and Flex are my spots of concern. I ran pitta and Rainey last week. They were bust. But Rainey was up against tough run D. This week he is against the Rams. I kinda like to play Jennings in for Rainey. Many people are telling me Pitta over Walker.

Also there are plenty of Defenses to pick up, I like KC but i think Luck and indy is going to do some damage. Titans and Lions along with a LOT of good matchups are up for grabs.

Need advice! You guys haven't lead me wrong yet!

You are fine with Rainey, especially PPR. Greg Jennings is high variance, and while I like his chances against a horribly depleted second string secondary that is Cincy, Rainey is a safer bet. Also, keep in mind the rest of your lineup is highly explosive so you don't need a boom or bust in the FLEX position, you want steady production (with the added bonus of explosive upside). Jennings isn't as good a guarantee for steady production.

Walker vs Pitta is a tossup, but I like Walker slightly better b/c Ravens/Pats is a rivalry game at Baltimore which is usually low scoring. Both are steady but Walker is a better bet for the end zone.

DST, most are high variance this week like KC. I would consider a lower variance like Tennessee against MJD/C.Shorts-less Jags and let your big guns Megatron/Dez/Charles/Luck do the heavy lifting. However, since you have Luck, KC is actually a decent hedge on your bet - you should win out either way especially if the variance does swing high to KC or Luck. The downside is that you have to really believe in your heavy hitters having a big day vs your opponents' heavy hitters since you are giving up a slot in high variance (one wins, the other does shit). Essentially, by hedging you are lowering risk at the DST and QB positions but increasing risk at your other positions (WR/RB) if they don't produce. If you don't feel good about this, then go with TN and cheer on Luck@KC. If SF is available, snatch them up over TN. Good luck!
 
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crownjules

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Well I'm in the championship game.

QB: Cam (toe injury?) vs NO or Romo @ WSH? NO's been terrible on the road and I'm sure CAR wants to make up for the loss in NO, but Cam's toe injury is an unknown factor. Romo usually plays well (in terms of fantasy points) and WSH isn't exactly a great defensive team.
RB: Lynch and either D. Brown (if playing) or J. Bell
WR: DJax, Gordon, Alshon
TE: Clay or Pitta? Right now leaning towards Clay, but then again Pitta always eats the Patriots up. Depends on if they put Talib on him or T Smith, which we won't know until the game starts...
D/ST: Cardinals
K: Tucker
 
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SP33Demon

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God, the Eagles burned me so bad. Minnesota's third string RB helped ruin my day.

Both of your options were subpar unfortunately (Cincy - 2pts ugh), and Philly had more upside. However, they needed to build a lead in order for that DST to play out favorably (which had a good chance of happening). However, only running their most explosive weapon McCoy 8 times in the game was a huge head scratcher, checkdowns to him or not (they tried to get "tricky" and too cute to counter MN's strategy). Also going for it on 4th and 1 on their own 24 in the first half was a big wtf - just giving MN points for free. A boneheaded college coaching mentality in an otherwise very clever offensive system is what did them in. I'm sure Kelly will learn from that humbling experience but it didn't do you any favors for fantasy.
 

vi edit

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*sigh*

Missed going to championship game in the ATOT league by .7 points.

And that's only because I swapped out Russel Wilson with Rapestburger right before the Seattle game. I figured Seattle would go up big early with the ground game and Wilson would do nothing more than hand off to the backup backs. Ben was the hot hand and felt like he had better upside. That was a 10 point difference.

Damn.
 

SP33Demon

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Jun 22, 2001
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Well I'm in the championship game.
QB: Cam (toe injury?) vs NO or Romo @ WSH? NO's been terrible on the road and I'm sure CAR wants to make up for the loss in NO, but Cam's toe injury is an unknown factor. Romo usually plays well (in terms of fantasy points) and WSH isn't exactly a great defensive team.
RB: Lynch and either D. Brown (if playing) or J. Bell
WR: DJax, Gordon, Alshon
TE: Clay or Pitta? Right now leaning towards Clay, but then again Pitta always eats the Patriots up. Depends on if they put Talib on him or T Smith, which we won't know until the game starts...
D/ST: Cardinals
K: Tucker

Your WR are diesel. However, Lynch has a tough matchup against your defense, AZ... that is unfortunate. Donald Brown vs KC or J.Bell doesn't offer you much upside either.

At TE, Clay basically goose-egged you last week and if this is the championship game, no way in hell I'm risking lost production in the fate of Mike Sherman's hands. Pitta all the way. If your opponent has an incredible team and you need a homerun play, only then would I go with Clay (more likely to find the end zone IF they use him), despite Buffalo's better secondary than NE. Buffalo also has a much better pass rush which could favor Clay/slot man more than Pitta (Flacco will have all day to throw). Both games have relatively low O/U's at 43 FWIW.

Which leads us to QB. Considering your opponent's team, if he is stacked at every position (such as RB, which you are not), then you will need to play the QB with the higher upside. I think that is Romo for many reasons:
1) The over under is higher for Dallas@Washington at 54 vs 47 for NO@Carolina,
2) Romo's offense simply passes more (84 more attempts) and he is statistically better at passing than Newton who equalizes that with his legs (7 pts more in Fantasy standard scoring).
3) Many pundits are picking Kirk Cousins to break out against a depleted Dallas D (no Claiborne, no Lee) which could mean shootout.
4) Dallas has more weapons than Carolina.
5) Dallas/Wash defenses are more likely to hemorrhage than Carolina/NO.

I (and Vegas) could be wrong since it's a rivalry, (remember Philly/Dallas 17-3 game that everyone thought would be a huge scoring day) but you have to go with the higher upside game b/c your running backs (and/or their matchups) are not favorable.

Summary: Play Romo and hope for high upside to make up for your RBs. If you are really scared of your opponent and feel you are an underdog, play riskier Clay and hope for a TD.
 
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slayer202

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*sigh*

Missed going to championship game in the ATOT league by .7 points.

And that's only because I swapped out Russel Wilson with Rapestburger right before the Seattle game. I figured Seattle would go up big early with the ground game and Wilson would do nothing more than hand off to the backup backs. Ben was the hot hand and felt like he had better upside. That was a 10 point difference.

Damn.

I wasn't sure who to root for, your teams were very close as we found out
 

crownjules

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Your WR are diesel. However, Lynch has a tough matchup against your defense, AZ... that is unfortunate. Donald Brown vs KC or J.Bell doesn't offer you much upside either.

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Summary: Play Romo and hope for high upside to make up for your RBs. If you are really scared of your opponent and feel you are an underdog, play riskier Clay and hope for a TD.

Not too worried about Lynch. He still put up 15 points against ARI in their first meeting. In terms of D/ST I could pick up Lions, Cowboys, Steelers or Titans for the bad teams they're playing against.

His team is Foles, A. Brown, CJ, Moreno, Hicks, M. Jones, Witten, 49ers, and Akers. So pretty weak at WR but both have good matchups, his QB and Brown have tough matchups, CJ can be hit or miss, and Moreno should have a good game. It should be a close game between us.
 

MetalMat

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Jun 14, 2004
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Need some lineup help. Standard league:

QB: Foles, Ryan
RB: Shady, Gio, Veeren, Tate
WR: Gordon, Garcon, VJax, K.Allen
TE: Pitta, Gates, Reed (IR-Slot)
K: Walsh, Sturgis
DST: Chiefs, Titans

I am thinking of
QB: Foles
RB: Shady, Gio
WR: Gordon, Garcon
Flex: Allen
TE: Pitta
K: Walsh
DST: Chiefs

Sound good?

Edit: Just saw Tate went to IR, picked up Dennis Johnson but I doubt I am going to use him.
 
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