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[MisterJackson]

Don't do it! Boldin got shut down against the best defense in the NFL - these things happen to featured receivers sometimes. Calvin Johnson was essentially shut down by the Vikings.

What's your full roster? I think I remember you saying earlier that you were in an 8-team league, and I don't think Hopkins is worth rostering in such a shallow league.

I am indeed in an 8 team league. ESPN, standard rules, non PPR. Here's my roster:

http://pics.bbzzdd.com/users/misterjackson/Roster.JPG

I think I'll hold onto Boldin for now. I didn't think he was a wash just because of the Seattle game, I just thought maybe Hopkins has more potential. But Andre Johnson would need to be out for awhile for Hopkins potential to be realized. Boldin's the safer bet.

Really I need to turn my attention to RB's. It's just a mess right now. I no longer trust MJD, and Gore hasn't done squat (yeah, I know, Seattle D, and it's only week 2, but still...he ran up 160 something yards on them last year in one game. I expected more from him last Sunday).

The way I'm looking at it right now is I keep Reggie Bush, Demarco Murray and Gore, but drop MJD for someone else. Here's who I have available to claim in the waiver tonight:

http://pics.bbzzdd.com/users/misterjackson/available_RB_1.JPG

http://pics.bbzzdd.com/users/misterjackson/available_RB_2.JPG

 

[zinfamous]

QB is ultra deep this year, the top 12 are all interchangeable for the most part.

Giving up Manning to get a top 10 producing RB or stud WR/TE would improve your team for sure, and I'm sure folks would take you up on it (I would NEVER give up a top 10 RB however).

If you score in the top 4 and still lose, that's not your team...that's bad luck.

yeah, that's the truth. Also, when it comes to QB, value at fantasy vs value in real life is very, very skewed at that position.

Guys like Romo are suddenly studs of consistency. I don't think anyone, after these 2 games, would want RGIII leading their team (unless you are Jacksonville or NYJ), but his garbage time production still makes him a solid performer in fantasy.

With that, its very difficult to find someone that actually needs a real upgrade at that position. I basically look for someone that has Flacco or Rofflsburger and see if they have anyone I want. :\

 

[MetalMat]

I am indeed in an 8 team league. ESPN, standard rules, non PPR. Here's my roster:

http://pics.bbzzdd.com/users/misterjackson/Roster.JPG

I think I'll hold onto Boldin for now. I didn't think he was a wash just because of the Seattle game, I just thought maybe Hopkins has more potential. But Andre Johnson would need to be out for awhile for Hopkins potential to be realized. Boldin's the safer bet.

Really I need to turn my attention to RB's. It's just a mess right now. I no longer trust MJD, and Gore hasn't done squat (yeah, I know, Seattle D, and it's only week 2, but still...he ran up 160 something yards on them last year in one game. I expected more from him last Sunday).

The way I'm looking at it right now is I keep Reggie Bush, Demarco Murray and Gore, but drop MJD for someone else. Here's who I have available to claim in the waiver tonight:

http://pics.bbzzdd.com/users/misterjackson/available_RB_1.JPG

http://pics.bbzzdd.com/users/misterjackson/available_RB_2.JPG

If you need to drop anybody drop a DST or Pryor.

In an 8 team league it is very easy to pick up a decent backup QB for a bye week.

You need to get some RB depth much more than another WR

 

[Kev]

Started off the season with CJ Spiller, Steven Jackson, David Wilson, and Reggie Bush at RB. Seeing as I could only start 3 RB I traded Bush for Jimmy Graham.

Wilson sucks, Jackson got a booboo, and now I'm left with Jacquizz Rodgers and Montee Ball as my #2 and #3 rb's. This fucking sucks.

 

[MetalMat]

Started off the season with CJ Spiller, Steven Jackson, David Wilson, and Reggie Bush at RB. Seeing as I could only start 3 RB I traded Bush for Jimmy Graham.

Wilson sucks, Jackson got a booboo, and now I'm left with Jacquizz Rodgers and Montee Ball as my #2 and #3 rb's. This fucking sucks.

You think thats bad, this is the team my brother drafted lol

QB: Tom Brady, Big Ben
RB: CJ Spiller, Stevan Ridley, Montee Ball, Shane Vereen, Mark Ingram
WR: Roddy White, Danny Amendola, Antonio Brown, Mike Williams, Justin Blackmon
TE: Fred Davis, Zach Sudfeld

 

[AstroManLuca]

Why would anybody put a receiver in their flex spot is beyond me.

I don't know, maybe if you drafted Anquan Boldin, DeSean Jackson, or James Jones as your WR3? Jackson is the second highest scoring non-QB so far this year. Boldin (despite his week 2 disappearance) still has more fantasy points than Doug Martin, Arian Foster, and Darren McFadden. Pierre Garcon was thought of as a WR3 this preseason and I would definitely start him over the likes of Ahmad Bradshaw or Lamar Miller.

There seems to be some weird slavish devotion to always starting an RB in the flex. That's not a BAD idea but it depends on who is on your team. You draft lots of RBs because some don't pan out. It's silly to shoehorn a bad RB into your flex when there is elite receiving talent that can go there.

Then again. GRONK is my flex play.

Soon. Soon.

I've heard of people doing this, drafting both Gronk and Graham with the intention of putting one in the flex. I for one am a bit nervous about what that would do to the rest of my team, but it's a bold (and valid) strategy nonetheless.

 

[spidey07]

We don't have a dedicated TE slot so GRONK in the flex is a monster.

 

[dougp]

I don't know, maybe if you drafted Anquan Boldin, DeSean Jackson, or James Jones as your WR3? Jackson is the second highest scoring non-QB so far this year. Boldin (despite his week 2 disappearance) still has more fantasy points than Doug Martin, Arian Foster, and Darren McFadden. Pierre Garcon was thought of as a WR3 this preseason and I would definitely start him over the likes of Ahmad Bradshaw or Lamar Miller.

There seems to be some weird slavish devotion to always starting an RB in the flex. That's not a BAD idea but it depends on who is on your team. You draft lots of RBs because some don't pan out. It's silly to shoehorn a bad RB into your flex when there is elite receiving talent that can go there.

I've heard of people doing this, drafting both Gronk and Graham with the intention of putting one in the flex. I for one am a bit nervous about what that would do to the rest of my team, but it's a bold (and valid) strategy nonetheless.

I'll be starting Bennett in my flex this week since Amendola is out.

 

[slayer202]

We don't have a dedicated TE slot so GRONK in the flex is a monster.

How does that make any sense? Gronk in a TE slot is better than Gronk in a flex spot.

 

[zinfamous]

I've heard of people doing this, drafting both Gronk and Graham with the intention of putting one in the flex. I for one am a bit nervous about what that would do to the rest of my team, but it's a bold (and valid) strategy nonetheless.

both are solid. i recall the season before last where TE was incredibly deep with very consistent players. I drafted 2 TE very high because we had enough flex spots and tbh--those top tight ends were as good as the top wideouts, and all but the top 5 or 7 RBs at the time.

Now, the depth has shrunk due to age/injury/federal prison, but I would say there is still a very good stable of TEs to allows several teams to keep two on their team, maybe even starting two of them.

Consider a healthy Gronk & Jimmy Graham--who the hell would you start over both of those if you have 2 WO spots, 1 TE, and 2 FLEX?

 

[AstroManLuca]

I am indeed in an 8 team league. ESPN, standard rules, non PPR. Here's my roster:

http://pics.bbzzdd.com/users/misterjackson/Roster.JPG

I think I'll hold onto Boldin for now. I didn't think he was a wash just because of the Seattle game, I just thought maybe Hopkins has more potential. But Andre Johnson would need to be out for awhile for Hopkins potential to be realized. Boldin's the safer bet.

Really I need to turn my attention to RB's. It's just a mess right now. I no longer trust MJD, and Gore hasn't done squat (yeah, I know, Seattle D, and it's only week 2, but still...he ran up 160 something yards on them last year in one game. I expected more from him last Sunday).

The way I'm looking at it right now is I keep Reggie Bush, Demarco Murray and Gore, but drop MJD for someone else. Here's who I have available to claim in the waiver tonight:

http://pics.bbzzdd.com/users/misterjackson/available_RB_1.JPG

http://pics.bbzzdd.com/users/misterjackson/available_RB_2.JPG

You have a lot of underperforming RBs that could easily turn it around. I'd advise you to hold for now. And don't drop Anquan. Do drop BOTH of your defenses and pick up Minnesota for this week - they are playing against the Browns and will likely be facing off against Jason Campbell (Weeden has a sprained thumb). Don't keep more than one defense on your team. They're not worth a bench spot unless you have a top tier defense like Seattle or Chicago.

As for your lineup - bench MJD, move Bush up to RB, and put DeSean Jackson in your flex! DJax has been insane this year and you want to ride that train until Vick gets killed.

 

[zinfamous]

How does that make any sense? Gronk in a TE slot is better than Gronk in a flex spot.

well, he said they don't have a TE spot, so being better in that spot compared to FLEX is irrelevant.

 

[spidey07]

well, he said they don't have a TE spot, so being better in that spot compared to FLEX is irrelevant.

Correct. It's like having a top 10 receiver in your flex which you would generally not be able to do or draft.

 

[AstroManLuca]

We don't have a dedicated TE slot so GRONK in the flex is a monster.

How does that make any sense? Gronk in a TE slot is better than Gronk in a flex spot.

Slayer is correct (sort of). Without a dedicated TE spot, Gronk and Graham are competing against all WRs. They're good but not outstanding. Obviously they still score the same points no matter what roster spot you put them in.

Part of the value of these players is derived from their ability to outscore an average TE. Gronk and Graham's numbers are insane when compared to the likes of Antonio Gates, Greg Olsen, or Kyle Rudolph. Next to Calvin Johnson, Julio Jones, etc.? Not as much.

I'd almost argue that outside of a small handful of players, you don't even need to roster a TE if there's no dedicated TE slot.

EDIT: Of course, this year, there have been a lot of high scoring TEs, so that kind of turns the argument on its head. Last year there were a few great TEs and a bunch that did very little.

 

[thing1thing2]

Any advice for my WR slots:

Julian Edelman vs TB
Calvin Johnson vs WAS
Dez Bryant vs STL
Victor Cruz vs CAR

 

[slayer202]

Trade Edelman

 

[MetalMat]

Any advice for my WR slots:

Julian Edelman vs TB
Calvin Johnson vs WAS
Dez Bryant vs STL
Victor Cruz vs CAR

Seriously?

 

[tHa ShIzNiT]

Any advice for my WR slots:

Julian Edelman vs TB
Calvin Johnson vs WAS
Dez Bryant vs STL
Victor Cruz vs CAR

a thinly veiled brag attempt, I see.

 

[Imported]

JFC.. Yahoo sucks donkey balls. Can't set waivers for the same player more than once..

Trying to do the following but it won't let me do the last action..

Adding Waiver1 for Player1
Adding Waiver2 for Player1
Adding Waiver2 for Player2

 

[spidey07]

Slayer is correct (sort of). Without a dedicated TE spot, Gronk and Graham are competing against all WRs. They're good but not outstanding. Obviously they still score the same points no matter what roster spot you put them in.

Part of the value of these players is derived from their ability to outscore an average TE. Gronk and Graham's numbers are insane when compared to the likes of Antonio Gates, Greg Olsen, or Kyle Rudolph. Next to Calvin Johnson, Julio Jones, etc.? Not as much.

I'd almost argue that outside of a small handful of players, you don't even need to roster a TE if there's no dedicated TE slot.

EDIT: Of course, this year, there have been a lot of high scoring TEs, so that kind of turns the argument on its head. Last year there were a few great TEs and a bunch that did very little.

My league is 8 yds/point and 8 for a TD. Receivers/TE that get into the endzone score huge. That's the advantage for me playing gronk in my flex because he will put up top 10 receiver points in my league. I can count on him for a good 15-20+ points and to get that out of a flex is huge. There's no way I could have another receiver in that spot or even RB that would product that much. Who's brady going to throw to in the red zone? Gronk or Edelmen - the choice is easy.

Who knows though, I have Ben Tate and Joquie Bell sitting on the bench just ready to break out if something happens and then they would move to flex and Gronk to one of the three W/T slots we have.

My strategy with picking up edelmen is I can live with him till Gronk gets back and then trade him to the tom brady owner (who has foster so I'll package edelmen/tate for somebody juicy. Or hang onto him if gronk gets hurt again.

ps - I cannot believe I just put in a waiver bid for Philip freaking Rivers but RG3 really worries me and everybody else in a 12 man league drafted 2 QBs.

Now what to do with Eddie Royal sitting out there? I can't do much of anything, only 5 bench slots.

I drafted for a championship and went RB heavy with 5 startable backs. There are at least 5 teams in my league now that are hurting bad for RB after the injuries. Those guys are picking up folks that don't even see the field and crossing their fingers.

 

[MisterJackson]

If you need to drop anybody drop a DST or Pryor.

In an 8 team league it is very easy to pick up a decent backup QB for a bye week.

You need to get some RB depth much more than another WR

I can only have 4 each of WR's and RB's. I rotate out DS/T's and back up QB's. Plan on dropping Pryor and the Dolphins tonight.

 

[MisterJackson]

You have a lot of underperforming RBs that could easily turn it around. I'd advise you to hold for now. And don't drop Anquan. Do drop BOTH of your defenses and pick up Minnesota for this week - they are playing against the Browns and will likely be facing off against Jason Campbell (Weeden has a sprained thumb). Don't keep more than one defense on your team. They're not worth a bench spot unless you have a top tier defense like Seattle or Chicago.

As for your lineup - bench MJD, move Bush up to RB, and put DeSean Jackson in your flex! DJax has been insane this year and you want to ride that train until Vick gets killed.

I am kicking myself so bad right now for not putting DJax in fle had JUST recieved him in trade and had a good feeling about him. I was thinking MJD and Gore would show up, but, well, they didn't, haha. Oh well.

Minnesota is EXACTLY the D I was looking at this week. The only reason I have two, is because the way our league is set up it's either I have two kickers, two D's or three QB's. I'd rather have those spots used by another WR or RB, but dems da rules.

 

[MisterJackson]

Any advice for my WR slots:

Julian Edelman vs TB
Calvin Johnson vs WAS
Dez Bryant vs STL
Victor Cruz vs CAR

IMHO you should go Megatron and Dez. Both playing weak D's (Steelers not QUITE as weak as Washington, but still bad)

 

[brainhulk]

IMHO you should go Megatron and Dez. Both playing weak D's (Steelers not QUITE as weak as Washington, but still bad)

STL is St Louis. And Ike Taylor shut down AJ green yesterday. St Louis has Cortland Finnegan and Janoris Jenkins, but I doubt Dez will have a problem with them.

I see Eli having a problem with Carolina's D

 

[Crono]

I'd be buying David Wilson right now if I didn't already have him on my teams. Anyone who has been watching the Giants the past couple years knows how they operate with their running backs, and by mid season or earlier there's a good chance Wilson is in the top 5 of all running backs.