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woodman1999

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Sep 19, 2003
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Have Brees as well. Contemplating playing Mark Ingram as well, but that'd mean removing Vereen, Forte, or Torrey Smith from my lineup.
 

pete6032

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Dec 3, 2010
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Anyone starting Roddy White? I've got Roddy White or Harry Douglas, don't know which one to start.
 

dbk

Lifer
Apr 23, 2004
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Hard to trust Roddy coming off the injury while Douglas has been doing well.
 

Adrenaline

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Jun 12, 2005
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I may trade a RB and looking for advice. In my keeper league, I just did these two trades (I am giving up on the left and getting on the right):

Rainey, Ridley, Round 4 and Round 10 for Charles, Round 6 and Round 20

Brady and Round 6 for Foles and Round 3

I have Stafford starting and Brady has been expendable to me as I traded Romo for him earlier this season. This will put my starting RBs (2 RB and 3 Flex, I am the only person that has enough starting RBs to play 5 thanks to waiver wire working) at:

Lacy
Stacy
Moreno
Andre Brown
Charles

Jennings
Doug Martin (IR spot)

I now understand this scoring system better than I have in the past. I debated heavily on keeping Stafford, BUT with the NFL becoming a passing league, a RB that gets a ton of work is worth a ton. I am looking at keeping:

Charles
Lacy

Martin or Stacy

I may choose Zac Stacy over Martin as he gets a ton of work also, and hopefully pick up Martin next year coming off an injury.

I have tried all kinds of crap trading for McCoy and Peterson (I will not worry about Peterson from now on). I got the Charles owner to trade. If he had taken the trade offer last week from me he would have won his game, so he took it this week.

For next year I am looking at:

1st Round Pick
2nd Round Pick
3rd Round Pick x3
5th Round Pick
7th Round Pick
and so on.

This league gives a point per reception and a point per rush (very odd I know, so RBs that get a ton of work are valuable). I am thinking about trading away Moreno. With Ball vulturing points from the goal line and his history of getting injured, someone may pay a very high price in hopes he stays healthy for next year. The other option for me would be Martin, as trading him will not hurt me this year. I could possibly get a high pick for Martin or hopefully draft him next year.
 
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glenn1

Lifer
Sep 6, 2000
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Hard to trust Roddy coming off the injury while Douglas has been doing well.

I just dropped Roddy in one league, and not only did he not get an FA bid, he hasn't even been picked up as a free agent. Honestly with the Falcolns out of playoff contention, I don't see any of their stars going out of their way to make big plays. They'll provide workmanlike and steady play that minimizes their risks of getting hurt while not being completely obvious they're not giving 100% effort.
 

SP33Demon

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Jun 22, 2001
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I may trade a RB and looking for advice. In my keeper league, I just did these two trades (I am giving up on the left and getting on the right):

Rainey, Ridley, Round 4 and Round 10 for Charles, Round 6 and Round 20

Brady and Round 6 for Foles and Round 3

I have Stafford starting and Brady has been expendable to me as I traded Romo for him earlier this season. This will put my starting RBs (2 RB and 3 Flex, I am the only person that has enough starting RBs to play 5 thanks to waiver wire working) at:

Lacy
Stacy
Moreno
Andre Brown
Charles

Jennings
Doug Martin (IR spot)

I now understand this scoring system better than I have in the past. I debated heavily on keeping Stafford, BUT with the NFL becoming a passing league, a RB that gets a ton of work is worth a ton. I am looking at keeping:

Charles
Lacy

Martin or Stacy

I may choose Zac Stacy over Martin as he gets a ton of work also, and hopefully pick up Martin next year coming off an injury.

I have tried all kinds of crap trading for McCoy and Peterson (I will not worry about Peterson from now on). I got the Charles owner to trade. If he had taken the trade offer last week from me he would have won his game, so he took it this week.

For next year I am looking at:

1st Round Pick
2nd Round Pick
3rd Round Pick x3
5th Round Pick
7th Round Pick
and so on.

This league gives a point per reception and a point per rush (very odd I know, so RBs that get a ton of work are valuable). I am thinking about trading away Moreno. With Ball vulturing points from the goal line and his history of getting injured, someone may pay a very high price in hopes he stays healthy for next year. The other option for me would be Martin, as trading him will not hurt me this year. I could possibly get a high pick for Martin or hopefully draft him next year.

Well I had a long post written and then it got eaten by the small keys on this laptop, argh. Anyway, to summarize, for keeper leagues I would try to get L.McCoy even if you have to trade Charles to get him. Per PFF, the Eagles amazing Chip Kelly scheme is forcing defenses into nickel on 83% of their rushing plays which means amazing opportunities for Eagles RB's, including Bryce Brown (top handcuff in the league as a result). Own them both next year. Furthermore, McCoy in real life is the superlative rusher and receiver, grading out at a whopping 17.2 vs Charles 2.4 and 3.9 to 2.0 regarding passing which gives him higher upside.

Regarding Moreno, in keeper leagues sell him after his next big game because the Broncos drafted Montee Ball high for a reason. Ball has actually slightly improved and passed Moreno in pass blocking on the season so he appears to be doing well and just needs to show the team he won't fumble. Additionally, Moreno isn't making anyone miss and defenses with great base defenses like the Chiefs will expose him (-2.x grade last game). Moreno's saving grace is he is top in receiving, although he didn't get any passes last game so that is of concern and keep an eye on it.

For targeting someone other than McCoy, here is the list of top 15 backs with the most snaps (minus Charles/McCoy #1/2) in order: Forte, CJ2K, Peterson, Lynch, Gore, FJax, Moreno, Rice, MJD, Bush, P.Thomas, B.Powell, G.Bernard, and Lacy (Alfred Morris 16th). Out of these guys, the highest rushing grades are Lynch, Lacy. After adding passing, Lynch, Bernard, and P.Thomas. Looking at elusive factor (MT's): Peterson, Lynch, Morris, Murray, Tate, P.Thomas, McCoy, Ivory, Bush, Lacy. (Charles 17th btw).

Lynch seems to be the best next back to target, although he has major OL issues that you can only hope Seattle will fix in the draft. He also has a lot of tread wear. Lacy and Alf are the next best. Bernard and P.Thomas are the best pickups for RBs who split a good amount of time with another back.
 
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chitwood

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Aug 21, 2008
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Rivers is my every weeker, but since he's cooled and facing the Chiefs in KC... I'm starting Mike Glennon this week

THIS IS CARZY
 

Imported

Lifer
Sep 2, 2000
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You too? I'm kind of in do or die mode and I'm not sure Kaep can put up decent numbers.

I think Kaep can do well because the Redskins seem to be imploding.. but I'm not in a do or die so I may just do it to try and maximize points in the event of a tie breaker. Vikings seem to have a worse defense though.. and Tolzien is clicking with Nelson and Boykin pretty well.
 

AMDZen

Lifer
Apr 15, 2004
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Rivers is my every weeker, but since he's cooled and facing the Chiefs in KC... I'm starting Mike Glennon this week

THIS IS CARZY

If your options are Rivers and Glennon, who did you draft? You surely didn't draft Rivers did you? He went undrafted in every league I played in this year
 

SP33Demon

Lifer
Jun 22, 2001
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Rivers is my every weeker, but since he's cooled and facing the Chiefs in KC... I'm starting Mike Glennon this week

THIS IS CARZY

Someone dropped Rivers in my other league, then I saw he has KC and Cincy. Tough to pick him up for the last 2 weeks against that.

I dropped Crapernick and Matt Ryan. Fantasy scrubs this year. Crapernick may actually bust out against Washington but it'd be too little too late.
 
Jun 19, 2004
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The gf dropped Rivers for Glennon. Seemed like a good play to me. We'll see. She also had to drop Reed for Walker. Hope that pans out for her too.
 

vi edit

Elite Member
Super Moderator
Oct 28, 1999
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Yeah I've been in a rough spot for QB's in one of my leagues.

Drafted Kaepernick in like the 6th round. He exploded week one then did practically nothing for 3 weeks straight after that. I grabbed Rivers off the wire and rode him for 4 or 5 weeks. Then he started to fizzle. Last week I grabbed Case Keenum thinking he was a decent play. Then he gets benched. D'oh! Now I'm on to Glennon. Which means he's going to snap his femur or something this week.
 

glenn1

Lifer
Sep 6, 2000
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Yeah I've been in a rough spot for QB's in one of my leagues.

Drafted Kaepernick in like the 6th round. He exploded week one then did practically nothing for 3 weeks straight after that. I grabbed Rivers off the wire and rode him for 4 or 5 weeks. Then he started to fizzle. Last week I grabbed Case Keenum thinking he was a decent play. Then he gets benched. D'oh! Now I'm on to Glennon. Which means he's going to snap his femur or something this week.

Get Tannenhill queued up then, he's probably next in line. Alex Smith is probably a reasonable one week play against SD as well.
 

leeland

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Dec 12, 2000
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I can't believe I am asking this...

Do I bench Peterson and start Lacy and Forte? I am a must win situation and can't afford to have a lame duck from him again like last week.
 

SP33Demon

Lifer
Jun 22, 2001
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I can't believe I am asking this...

Do I bench Peterson and start Lacy and Forte? I am a must win situation and can't afford to have a lame duck from him again like last week.

Forte for sure if you're worried about AP. Per roto: <<The Rams are still weakest versus the run. DC Tim Walton's unit ranks 18th in run defense and has coughed up 11 rushing touchdowns through ten games. Only the Jags, Bills, and Saints have surrendered more 20-plus-yard runs than St. Louis. After blistering Baltimore's top-11 run defense for 125 total yards and a score last week, Matt Forte is a cinch top-five fantasy running back play in Week 12.
>>
 

Adrenaline

Diamond Member
Jun 12, 2005
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Well I had a long post written and then it got eaten by the small keys on this laptop, argh. Anyway, to summarize, for keeper leagues I would try to get L.McCoy even if you have to trade Charles to get him. Per PFF, the Eagles amazing Chip Kelly scheme is forcing defenses into nickel on 83% of their rushing plays which means amazing opportunities for Eagles RB's, including Bryce Brown (top handcuff in the league as a result). Own them both next year. Furthermore, McCoy in real life is the superlative rusher and receiver, grading out at a whopping 17.2 vs Charles 2.4 and 3.9 to 2.0 regarding passing which gives him higher upside.

Regarding Moreno, in keeper leagues sell him after his next big game because the Broncos drafted Montee Ball high for a reason. Ball has actually slightly improved and passed Moreno in pass blocking on the season so he appears to be doing well and just needs to show the team he won't fumble. Additionally, Moreno isn't making anyone miss and defenses with great base defenses like the Chiefs will expose him (-2.x grade last game). Moreno's saving grace is he is top in receiving, although he didn't get any passes last game so that is of concern and keep an eye on it.

For targeting someone other than McCoy, here is the list of top 15 backs with the most snaps (minus Charles/McCoy #1/2) in order: Forte, CJ2K, Peterson, Lynch, Gore, FJax, Moreno, Rice, MJD, Bush, P.Thomas, B.Powell, G.Bernard, and Lacy (Alfred Morris 16th). Out of these guys, the highest rushing grades are Lynch, Lacy. After adding passing, Lynch, Bernard, and P.Thomas. Looking at elusive factor (MT's): Peterson, Lynch, Morris, Murray, Tate, P.Thomas, McCoy, Ivory, Bush, Lacy. (Charles 17th btw).

Lynch seems to be the best next back to target, although he has major OL issues that you can only hope Seattle will fix in the draft. He also has a lot of tread wear. Lacy and Alf are the next best. Bernard and P.Thomas are the best pickups for RBs who split a good amount of time with another back.

I have tried a few good trade offers to get McCoy and the guy would not budge. The Charles trade will not process until tomorrow. The trade deadline is tonight.

I may try one more offer.
 
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I can't believe I am asking this...

Do I bench Peterson and start Lacy and Forte? I am a must win situation and can't afford to have a lame duck from him again like last week.

Normally I'd say you'd be stupid not to start AP, but this groin injury he's got seems to be bothersome. There's talk that they'll pull him from the game if the injury shows signs of aggravation.

If I were in your spot, and really needed a win this week, then I wouldn't hesitate to bench him for those two instead. They're some of the very few I'd consider starting over him though. There aren't many others.
 

brainhulk

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Garcon or Antonio Brown? Brown has very tough match up but this league gives points for return yardage. But with Jordan Reed out, i wondet what kind of game Garcon will have
 
Jun 19, 2004
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Garcon or Antonio Brown? Brown has very tough match up but this league gives points for return yardage. But with Jordan Reed out, i wondet what kind of game Garcon will have

Haden will be on Brown, so I'd say Garcon, even though he's facing SF. FWIW, Garcon's ankle is supposedly a non issue now.