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Is this the best for the money?

Coldkilla

Diamond Member
Edit: Last question - Are the parts in this system compatible? (Especially the memory and motherboard, if not suggestions on ether one of them are appreciated).

My cousin's got around $1000 for a new tower & components. (No monitor+keyboard+mouse+case needed).

Processor: E8400
http://www.newegg.com/Product/...x?Item=N82E16819115037

Memory: CORSAIR 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/...x?Item=N82E16820145184

Motherboard: ASUS P5Q Pro LGA 775
http://www.newegg.com/Product/...x?Item=N82E16813131299

PSU: CORSAIR CMPSU-520HX 520W
http://www.newegg.com/Product/...tem=N82E16817139001[/Lhttp://[/L]http://[/L]http://[/L]http://[/L]http://[/L]http://[/L]http://[/L]

Heatsink: ZALMAN 9500A (May end up removing if my cousin wants to save some money)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/...x?Item=N82E16835118223

Video: VisionTek 900244 Radeon HD 4870
http://www.newegg.com/Product/...tem=N82E16814129113[/Lhttp://[/L]http://[/L]http://[/L]http://[/L]

Hard Drive: 640GB WD HDD (More space and its faster)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/...x?Item=N82E16822136218

DVD Burner: Samsung 22X SATA
http://www.newegg.com/Product/...x?Item=N82E16827151171

New Total: $961.43

Is this a good system? Do the components work together? (RAM/Motherboard etc)?
Thanks!

 
I would get a HD4850 over that 9880GTX, or if he's willing to spend the extra cash a HD4870. Also, I would probably invest a little more on a faster hard drive. At only $30 more you could get the 640GB WD HDD which would give him considerably more disk space and be faster. Now on the power supply personally I would take this one over it. Also, for the DVD Burner I wouldn't pay the price premium for ASUS as there is hardly any difference by getting that. Just get the cheapest SATA one or maybe even get two. I think the motherboard is fine but you might want to find something that supports PCI Express 16x 2.0 and has 2 slots in case you ever want to SLI or something in the future, something like this would probably be smarter and at only $10 more it's worth it. So, with these new parts you'd have a faster HDD, video card, and a more future proof motherboard. Also, the video card is only maybe $160 AR and if you get a cheaper DVD burner maybe two you still end up with roughly the same if not a little less.

Also, you didn't mention a case but if you do need one I'd recommend the Antec 900 which is 80 AR.
 
Originally posted by: Coldkilla
My cousin's got around $1000 for a new tower & components. (No monitor+keyboard+mouse needed).

Processor: E8500 3.16GHz LGA 775 (Dual Core)
$174.99

Memory: Corsair Dominator (2x2GB) 240-Pin DDD2 1066
$149.00

PSU: Thermaltake 700W
$149.99

Video Card: XFX 9800 GTX 512MB 256-bit GDDR3
$229.99

Seagate 7200RPM 250GB SATA
$59.99

ASUS 20X DVD±R DVD Burner
$35.99

Grand Total: $949.94

Is this a good system? He has a little more cash to spare, but he'd like to stay around this range. Are these parts good? Will he be needing a 3rd party HSF or any other components?

Thanks!
You don't mind spending your cousin's cash. 😛
Your Cuz will get a better deal going with...

* CPU - E7200 > OC to 3.16GHz
* CPU HS - Zalman 9500A
* Memory - Corsair TWIN2X4096-6400C5
* PS - Corsair 450VX
* GPU] - MSI HD4850
* HD - WD WD6400AAKS 640GB
* DVD Burner - Samsung 22X SATA
 
Originally posted by: Coldkilla
My cousin's got around $1000 for a new tower & components. (No monitor+keyboard+mouse needed).

Processor: E8500 3.16GHz LGA 775 (Dual Core)
$174.99

Excellent Choice ! Add HSF if he is gonna O/C


Not so good Choice ! Look at this: ASUS P5Q Pro LGA 775 Intel P45 ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail

http://www.newegg.com/Product/...x?Item=N82E16813131299



G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1000 (PC2 8000) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory - Retail $92.00 No Rebates or B/S

http://www.newegg.com/Product/...x?Item=N82E16820231145


BFG Makes some Great PSU's since Jon Gerow (Jonny Guru) went there as PSU Project Manager.

BFG Tech LS-550 BFGR550WLSPSU Continuous 550W ATX12V 2.3 / EPS12V 2.8 SLI Power Supply - Retail $ 100.00 No Rebates or B/S

http://www.newegg.com/Product/...x?Item=N82E16817702008


EVGA 512-P3-N873-AR GeForce 9800 GTX+ 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card - Retail

http://www.newegg.com/Product/...x?Item=N82E16814130376

Die Shrunk 55nm(G92) should perform better, and cooler.


Spend Money Saved on Better Hard Drives.... Seagate 7200.11 WD 640 GB Etc.


Grand Total: $949.94

Is this a good system? He has a little more cash to spare, but he'd like to stay around this range. Are these parts good? Will he be needing a 3rd party HSF or any other components?

Thanks!

 
If you're planning to overclock, I would recommend going with Blain's setup, except that I would buy a different CPU cooler. There are much more affordable ones that will easily perform well enough for what you're doing. I would also ditch your motherboard choice. There's no use in combo boards simply because there's no appreciable benefit in a Core2-based system moving from DDR2 to DDR3. In fact, there's actually a drawback since you're limited to 4GB of RAM.

If you're not planning to overclock, I'd go with an E8400 and Blain's DDR2-800 choice. Same comment about changing the motherboard applies, and the one Mr. Fox linked is a good choice. The E8500 has come down in price, but the bang for the buck factor still favors the E8400. The E8500 is only 166 MHz faster.

700W is way more than you need unless you're expecting to go Crossfire, in which case you'd need a different motherboard anyway. Something in the 450-550W range would be plenty. While BFG does make pretty good PSUs these days, the Corsair 550VX is on sale for even less than the BFG unit Mr. Fox linked.
 
Alright this is the new system I've put together based on your suggestions. I've also got a few questions at the bottom of the list.
Processor: E8400
http://www.newegg.com/Product/...x?Item=N82E16819115037

Memory: G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1000 (PC2 8000)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/...x?Item=N82E16820231145

Motherboard: ASUS P5Q Pro LGA 775
http://www.newegg.com/Product/...x?Item=N82E16813131299

PSU: SILVERSTONE 700W (Modular)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/...x?Item=N82E16817256045

Heatsink: ZALMAN 9500A
http://www.newegg.com/Product/...x?Item=N82E16835118223

Video: ASUS EAH4870 (Memory Clock: 3600MHz (900MHz DDR5))
http://www.newegg.com/Product/...x?Item=N82E16814121258

Hard Drive: 640GB WD HDD (More space and its faster)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/...x?Item=N82E16822136218

DVD Burner: Samsung 22X SATA
http://www.newegg.com/Product/...x?Item=N82E16827151171

New Total: $974.92
Question 1: People say the video card reaches temps of 80'C. Is this true? Is there anyway to eliminate this without compromising the warranty on the video card?

Question2: The 700W PSU I have selected was mainly for the modular support. Do you have any good recommendations on a high quality (quiet) modular 550W?

Question3: Do any of these components come with thermal compound? Or should he purchase some else where?

Question4: I've owned Nvidia now exclusively over a decade. Can anyone direct me to something that benchmarks this to Nvidia's current cards. (A plus if it compares it also to my current card 8800GTX).

Question5: I've had some horrific experiences with motherboards in the past. I've had 4 MSI motherboards die, and 1 Intel Motherboard die. My current motherboard (Gigabyte) has lasted over a whole year without 1 incident. Can he expect this ASUS motherboard (in terms of quality, not just speed) to remain stable for a long duration of time? I know there's no guarantee's but I'd like for him not to worry so much about a part dieing.


-He doesn't aim to overclock.
-He has a case
-He has all other accessories
 
Blain beats me to it again. I swear, it's almost like he's ready to start helping people again. 😉

Answer 1: It probably does. My 8800GT used to hit nearly 90C while under a heavy load, like Crysis. It's not the big deal for GPUs that it is for CPUs. If you're worried about it, there are a few things you can do.
- Use a monitoring utility to turn up the fan speed on the card. This should help keep it down, but it will make the card louder.
- Buy a PCI slot exhaust fan and mount it next to the graphics card. Again, this will make the system louder.
- Buy an aftermarket cooler such as the Accelero S1. My idle temps have dropped about 15-20 degrees and my load temps as much as 20-30 with the Accelero installed on my 8800GT, and that's running without a fan. The only company I know of that allows this without voiding the warranty is XFX, but they don't make ATI cards.

Answer 2: Blain suggested the one I was going to. That's a great deal on a very high quality PSU. When I got mine it was on sale and I still paid $5-10 more for it. I love it.

Answer 3: The CPU will come with a heatsink, and that heatsink will have thermal compound already applied to the base of it. There's really no need for the aftermarket cooler, especially one so expensive, on a CPU that isn't being overclocked. If you're just getting the cooler to reduce noise, look at something less expensive like the Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro. (And again, I'd echo Blain that there's no reason to pay for DDR2-1000 if you're not overclocking.)

Answer 4: http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=3341&p=13
I jumped straight to the first page of benchmarks, but you can move around the article to get more info in general, and there are several pages of comparisons.

Answer 5: ASUS is just about as good as it gets at the consumer level in terms of build quality. I have an ASUS board that I bought used out of a dusty cardboard box at a yard sale that's still ticking for what it's worth. On the other hand, since he's not overclocking there'd be nothing wrong with getting an Intel motherboard, and they tend to be the most stable ones out there.
 
Question: The 8800GT SLI keeps coming up above the AMD HD 4870. The card's I see on newegg are about $150 each, making it about $300 total. The AMD HD 4870 is $284.00. So would the dual 8800GT be a better buy?

Updated OP with new specs.
 
Originally posted by: Coldkilla
Question: The 8800GT SLI keeps coming up above the AMD HD 4870. The card's I see on newegg are about $150 each, making it about $300 total. The AMD HD 4870 is $284.00. So would the dual 8800GT be a better buy?

Updated OP with new specs.



SLI is not Officially supported on Intel chipset.... There are hacked drivers that will allow it, but it locks you into an older driver, and XP.


what size Screen, and Resolution will he be using ?

The whole Package looks good, but unless he is gaming over 1920 x 1080 any good single card will get the job done.

I would look at one of the ATI Vendors that has Lifetime warranty..PowerColor, Or Visiontek
Or BFG, EVGA, Or XFX in NVIDIA Flavor.

If you are in the Midwest BFG is usually just a day or two on RMA Service.. And has a No Hassle Policy for the Most Part...

 
I've updated the main OP.... Doesn't this system 'not work' though? The motherboard is 240pin DDR2 1200 and the memory is DDR800 (PC2 6400).
 
Sorry about that, was in a rush and didn't think twice. I also didn't know that newegg didn't display all the specifications on motherboards. I figured if it didn't say it in its specifications there it wouldn't be different elsewhere so saw no point in even looking.


Anyways thanks all. I sent him recommendation system 🙂
 
Originally posted by: Coldkilla
Sorry about that, was in a rush and didn't think twice. I also didn't know that newegg didn't display all the specifications on motherboards. I figured if it didn't say it in its specifications there it wouldn't be different elsewhere so saw no point in even looking.


Anyways thanks all. I sent him recommendation system 🙂

Newegg displays the fastest memory the manufacturer claims the motherboard will accept. I wish they wouldn't do that, because whenever I recommend DDR2-800 people say, "No! I need 1066 for my motherboard or it won't work!"
 
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