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TheGameIs21

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Here's the story and no, I'm not giving clif notes.

My sister-in-law (Julie) is 34 and she has an IQ that is one point over what is considered mentally retarded. She has extremely high social skills and you wouldn't know her IQ was so low until you spoke to her about money or time references.

Her mother-in-law is a hard core liberal. My wife has even told me that her mother has asked her to vote for Kerry to "offset" my Bush vote. We have had an understanding that we wont discuss politics with eachother.

Last Friday (10/1) she is over at our house and says "Julie's friends at her work are all voting for Bush and now she wants to. We aren't going to take her to vote.(she can't drive)" At which point I get VERY pissed off but I keep my cool. See I understand that Julie's handicap truly DOES deserve some concern when it comes to her voting since she honestly doesn't/can't understand the issues. I'm OK with that but I wanted to see what would happen if I asked the following question: "What if she was voting for Kerry? Would you take her to vote then?"....

I was FLOORED when she said "Yes, I would take her then since her father and I have done the research into Kerry and know what he stands for."

I think my tongue, cheeck and lips are still bleeding from all of the bitting I did to keep from exploding.

So my question is this: Is it OK (not sure if I'm looking for legal or moral) that my Mother-In-Law has the double standard when it comes to allowing her handicapped daughter to vote?

Please keep all Bush/Kerry statements out of this thread. stick to the topic.
 
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NesuD

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If the girl can legally vote she is entitled to exercise that right regardless. It is wrong of her mother to do this. Why don't you offer to take her to vote or arrange to get her an absentee ballot?
 
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dmcowen674

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Originally posted by: TheGameIs21
Here's the story and no, I'm not giving clif notes.

My sister-in-law (Julie) is 34 and she has an IQ that is one point over what is considered mentally retarded. She has extremely high social skills and you wouldn't know her IQ was so low until you spoke to her about money or time references.

Her mother-in-law is a hard core liberal. My wife has even told me that her mother has asked her to vote for Kerry to "offset" my Bush vote. We have had an understanding that we wont discuss politics with eachother.

Last Friday (10/1) she is over at our house and says "Julie's friends at her work are all voting for Bush and now she wants to. We aren't going to take her to vote.(she can't drive)" At which point I get VERY pissed off but I keep my cool. See I understand that Julie's handicap truly DOES deserve some concern when it comes to her voting since she honestly doesn't/can't understand the issues. I'm OK with that but I wanted to see what would happen if I asked the following question: "What if she was voting for Kerry? Would you take her to vote then?"....

I was FLOORED when she said "Yes, I would take her then since her father and I have done the research into Kerry and know what he stands for."

I think my tongue, cheeck and lips are still bleeding from all of the bitting I did to keep from exploding.

So my question is this: Is it OK (not sure if I'm looking for legal or moral) that my Mother-In-Law has the double standard when it comes to allowing her handicapped daughter to vote?

Please keep all Bush/Kerry statements out of this thread. stick to the topic.
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Ahhh, recruitment of the weak minded, worked in the 1930's, still works now. Frustrating isn't it???
 
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TheGameIs21

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This is a double edged sword....

When you are married into a family that has a son or daughter that is going to live with them until they die and you will get that family member when that happens... You are stepping on eggshells with things like this. I know that it would cause an un-repairable rift between me and the in-laws that I'd rather not have there since they are active with my children and it would do nothing but make the times that we are in the same room very un-easy for all involved (including my kids).

Part of me does say that I should "liberate" Julie but the other part says "I have to keep the peace at home."
 
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conjur

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Originally posted by: NesuD
If the girl can legally vote she is entitled to exercise that right regardless. It is wrong of her mother to do this. Why don't you offer to take her to vote or arrange to get her an absentee ballot?
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tallest1

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Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: NesuD
If the girl can legally vote she is entitled to exercise that right regardless. It is wrong of her mother to do this. Why don't you offer to take her to vote or arrange to get her an absentee ballot?
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:thumbsup:
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CaptnKirk

CaptnKirk

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She needs to vote her own concious - not to rubber stamp what some other person
has manipulated her into wanting to do, just because of going with peer pressue,
and her wanting to belong to the same political flux of the group.
 
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TheGameIs21

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Originally posted by: CaptnKirk
She needs to vote her own concious - not to rubber stamp what some other person
has manipulated her into wanting to do, just because of going with peer pressue,
and her wanting to belong to the same political flux of the group.
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That is the point I am making about understanding why there is reason for her NOT to vote. She doesn't have the ability to form her own conclusions about the candidates. She is very driven by peer pressure in everything she does. The newest toy that they push hard on TV... She gets multiples of (Don't even get me started on her Furby collection).... The newest fad drink/snack, the newest music, the newest phrases etc... It's is all driven by what her friends at work do and she really has no desire (possibly no ability) to think for herself when it comes to that. As a matter of fact, she used to love bbq chicken but one day her friends up at work were talking about how much they hate one brand of bbq (I was there and heard their conversation) and Julie now hates ALL bbq.
 
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Kibbo

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Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: NesuD
If the girl can legally vote she is entitled to exercise that right regardless. It is wrong of her mother to do this. Why don't you offer to take her to vote or arrange to get her an absentee ballot?
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bozack

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Originally posted by: TheGameIs21

That is the point I am making about understanding why there is reason for her NOT to vote. She doesn't have the ability to form her own conclusions about the candidates. She is very driven by peer pressure in everything she does. The newest toy that they push hard on TV... She gets multiples of (Don't even get me started on her Furby collection).... The newest fad drink/snack, the newest music, the newest phrases etc... It's is all driven by what her friends at work do and she really has no desire (possibly no ability) to think for herself when it comes to that. As a matter of fact, she used to love bbq chicken but one day her friends up at work were talking about how much they hate one brand of bbq (I was there and heard their conversation) and Julie now hates ALL bbq.
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What is worse, being influenced by a group of peers or brainwashed by a pair of liberalwhacko parents?....funny that the parents are her primary contacts and I am willing to bet she spends most of her time with them yet they have had no impact on how she feels regarding the election...
 
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Gravity

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I'd disengage from the mom-inlaw. Do what you must to preserve the marriage but don't give the battle axe the time of day. Get busy, find hobby and generally politely ignore her.

Engagement is what she wants, don't give it to her.
 
CaptnKirk

CaptnKirk

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What's really sad is that she is the PERFECT Republican voter.
Dosen't need any facts or knowledge, just following the agenda.
Go along with the crowd, and fit in with all the other non-thinkers.
 
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Rob9874

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Originally posted by: CaptnKirk
What's really sad is that she is the PERFECT Republican voter.
Dosen't need any facts or knowledge, just following the agenda.
Go along with the crowd, and fit in with all the other non-thinkers.
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Funny. That is my description of a liberal voter. Doesn't care about the issues at hand. Just knows that it's cool to support abortion, gay marriage, and legalizing pot.
 
CADsortaGUY

CADsortaGUY

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Tough situation - it's a hard thing to deal with as my sis-in-law is downs syndrome and wants to vote. Ofcourse it sounds like your situation has ALOT more heat than mine. My M-i-L wants her to be able to vote on her own(not tell her who to vote for) but the legal issues are a mess. Iowa guardianship law doesn't allow her to vote or marry - but as long as it is still a Wisc. based guardianship(they moved here and haven't changed the paperwork yet) she can vote while not be allowed to marry. It sounds like the law here will be changed though since it's become an issue for more than just my in-laws.

BTW - I have no idea who my sis-in-law would vote for, but she does sort of keep up with things(probably more than the average "normal" person does).

CsG
 
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