Is this odd? "US soldiers in Iraq asked to pray for Bush"

Czar

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http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/s819685.htm
US soldiers in Iraq asked to pray for Bush
They may be the ones facing danger on the battlefield, but US soldiers in Iraq are being asked to pray for President George W Bush.

Thousands of marines have been given a pamphlet called "A Christian's Duty," a mini prayer book which includes a tear-out section to be mailed to the White House pledging the soldier who sends it in has been praying for Bush.

"I have committed to pray for you, your family, your staff and our troops during this time of uncertainty and tumult. May God's peace be your guide," says the pledge, according to a journalist embedded with coalition forces.

The pamphlet, produced by a group called In Touch Ministries, offers a daily prayer to be made for the US president, a born-again Christian who likes to invoke his God in speeches.

Sunday's is "Pray that the President and his advisers will seek God and his wisdom daily and not rely on their own understanding".

Monday's reads "Pray that the President and his advisers will be strong and courageous to do what is right regardless of critics".
 

alchemize

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It would be odd if the military or a commander were asking the troops to do it.

Is it odd when Jehovah's witnesses come to your door? Don't answer that :)
 

glugglug

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Originally posted by: Czar
The pamphlet, produced by a group called In Touch Ministries
Oh, the irony....

Sunday's is "Pray that the President ...... not rely on their own understanding".
You mean since he has none?

Monday's reads "Pray that the President and his advisers will be strong and courageous to do what is right regardless of critics".
Bwahahahahhahahahhahahahhaha
 

JackStorm

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"Is this odd?"

Yes, but I can't say I'm one bit surpriced. I was expecting something like this to popup sooner or later.
 

JackStorm

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Originally posted by: alchemize
It would be odd if the military or a commander were asking the troops to do it.

That wouldn't just be odd, that would be propaganda :p

Is it odd when Jehovah's witnesses come to your door? Don't answer that :)

They give a new meaning to the saying "Back away from the door" :p
 

UltraQuiet

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Originally posted by: InfectedMushroom
Originally posted by: etech
So what?

You don't see anything wrong with this?

Praying for the "good fuhrer" and all?

Who's the "good fuhrer", asshat? No one is being forced to pray. Private institutions donate things to the military all the tme including Bibles, pamphlets of this type, books, candy, coupons, etc. etc. The people who receive this stuff, usually someone in supply, can either throw it away or send it out for distribution. The article doesn't say but I'll bet these were in a box at the end of a chow line somewhere and I bet the number of people who took one is very, very low.

When you can produce proof that someone was "made" to pray for the President, then you'll have an issue. Until then you might want to think about shutting up because your ignorance is showing again.

 

CADsortaGUY

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I know if I was over there right now I'd be praying for Bush, all the military commanders, the soldiers across the globe, and for the Iraqi people. Infact I do so right now as a plain old civilian. No, not just because of the WAR - I've done it for years. I also pray for my co-workers and Bosses. I don't think it's wrong to pray at all - do you?

CkG
 

InfectedMushroom

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Originally posted by: Ultra Quiet
Originally posted by: InfectedMushroom
Originally posted by: etech
So what?

You don't see anything wrong with this?

Praying for the "good fuhrer" and all?

Who's the "good fuhrer", asshat? No one is being forced to pray. Private institutions donate things to the military all the tme including Bibles, pamphlets of this type, books, candy, coupons, etc. etc. The people who receive this stuff, usually someone in supply, can either throw it away or send it out for distribution. The article doesn't say but I'll bet these were in a box at the end of a chow line somewhere and I bet the number of people who took one is very, very low.

When you can produce proof that someone was "made" to pray for the President, then you'll have an issue. Until then you might want to think about shutting up because your ignorance is showing again.


oooh. did i hurt your feelings when i called your hero the "fuhrer"?
i'm so sorry.

i have a problem with these pamphlets even existing and being available to the military.
 

Michael

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You should have stopped with:

"I have a problem"

You were 100% accurate then.

Michael
 

CrazyHelloDeli

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Originally posted by: InfectedMushroom
Originally posted by: Ultra Quiet
Originally posted by: InfectedMushroom
Originally posted by: etech
So what?

You don't see anything wrong with this?

Praying for the "good fuhrer" and all?

Who's the "good fuhrer", asshat? No one is being forced to pray. Private institutions donate things to the military all the tme including Bibles, pamphlets of this type, books, candy, coupons, etc. etc. The people who receive this stuff, usually someone in supply, can either throw it away or send it out for distribution. The article doesn't say but I'll bet these were in a box at the end of a chow line somewhere and I bet the number of people who took one is very, very low.

When you can produce proof that someone was "made" to pray for the President, then you'll have an issue. Until then you might want to think about shutting up because your ignorance is showing again.


oooh. did i hurt your feelings when i called your hero the "fuhrer"?
i'm so sorry.

i have a problem with these pamphlets even existing and being available to the military.

What rational reason do you have for being so fearful of them. Granted they are a waste of paper, what possible harm could come from "Praying for Bush". Im sure handing out the Quran would be fine and dandy, being as thats the only religion that gets any support from the left.

rolleye.gif

 

conjur

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And just what are the Good Muslims in the armed forces supposed to do? And the good atheists or the good Buddhists?


This is SUCH a CROCK!

It shows how desperate the neocons and their supporters are getting.
 

JackStorm

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Originally posted by: InfectedMushroom
Originally posted by: etech
So what?

You don't see anything wrong with this?

Praying for the "good fuhrer" and all?

You know, this Bush=Hitler stuff is really getting tiredsom. Trust me, Hitler and Bush are nothing alike. I know people who lived in germany at the time, and while most of them think Bush is a tad misguided, he is nowere near the psychotic liar that Hitler was. Bush might have relied on faulty intel, knowingly or not, but Hitler he is not. And trying to pawn him off as Hitler v2 is quite pathetic. Beside, if he really was Hitler, then you wouldn't be posting in this forum, you'd be getting a visit at night from strangers who'd be dragging your ass out of the house, shoving your ass in the car, and driving you to a location unknown.

As much as I dislike Bush and how this war was brought about, I really feel there needs to be a limit on the amount of BS that people come up with now a days...
 

burnedout

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Originally posted by: Ultra Quiet
Originally posted by: InfectedMushroom
Originally posted by: etech
So what?

You don't see anything wrong with this?

Praying for the "good fuhrer" and all?

Who's the "good fuhrer", asshat? No one is being forced to pray. Private institutions donate things to the military all the tme including Bibles, pamphlets of this type, books, candy, coupons, etc. etc. The people who receive this stuff, usually someone in supply, can either throw it away or send it out for distribution. The article doesn't say but I'll bet these were in a box at the end of a chow line somewhere and I bet the number of people who took one is very, very low.

When you can produce proof that someone was "made" to pray for the President, then you'll have an issue. Until then you might want to think about shutting up because your ignorance is showing again.
Yep. The amount and variety of donated goods to the military while deployed is amazing when we think about it. Soy sauce, keychains, food, bugspray, clothing, new and used books - you name it.

I also seriously doubt any soldier or marine was "made" to pray for the President.
 

arsbanned

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Who's the "good fuhrer", asshat?

A little less praying and a little more thinking, "asshat"
That goes for the rest of you guys who think praying is going to get our troops out of the situation President Bush has put them in.
 

JackStorm

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Originally posted by: burnedout
I also seriously doubt any soldier or marine was "made" to pray for the President.

While I feel these pamphlet are a waste of paper, I'm inclined to agree with you. I hightly doubt any of the soldiers are being "forced" to pray for that sorry ass excuse of a President (Yes, I don't like Bush, but there is a limit to the amount of BS I can take from either side of this issue).
 

mastertech01

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If I were over there and the decisions made by the President and company make or break my survivability you can bet your ass Im gonna pray they make the right decisions.. IMHO.

 

Michael

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conjur - Have you lost all capacity for rational thought? This is like the Girl Scouts sending over cookies. The Army is not ordering soldiers to pray. Some sort of Christian group is suggesting that they do so. Seems perfectly fine to me. If they're not Christian, then they probably didn't even pick-up or read the pamphlet.

Michael
 

conjur

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Originally posted by: Michael
conjur - Have you lost all capacity for rational thought? This is like the Girl Scouts sending over cookies. The Army is not ordering soldiers to pray. Some sort of Christian group is suggesting that they do so. Seems perfectly fine to me. If they're not Christian, then they probably didn't even pick-up or read the pamphlet.

Michael

It's election time; Bush is getting hammered from various sides; the religious-right is attempting to garner votes by masking it via religious pamphlets.
 

kage69

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It's election time; Bush is getting hammered from various sides; the religious-right is attempting to garner votes by masking it via religious pamphlets.

I second that - but is it even necessary? I mean c'mon, we all know god already told Pat Robertson Bush will win in Nov. Right? :D



I'm not too thrilled with the prospect of Kerry, but if Bush stays - ugh, I weep for my country.
 

etech

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Originally posted by: InfectedMushroom
Originally posted by: etech
So what?

You don't see anything wrong with this?

Praying for the "good fuhrer" and all?

You stupid little twit, come back when you can present an arguement as to why a group should not be allowed to send out booklets.

Anyone that calls the President of the United States that "good fuhrer" deserves to be banned for stupidity from these forums. Now note, I'm not calling for you to be banned, I'm just observing that you are too stupid to participate here.
 

CADsortaGUY

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Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: Michael
conjur - Have you lost all capacity for rational thought? This is like the Girl Scouts sending over cookies. The Army is not ordering soldiers to pray. Some sort of Christian group is suggesting that they do so. Seems perfectly fine to me. If they're not Christian, then they probably didn't even pick-up or read the pamphlet.

Michael

It's election time; Bush is getting hammered from various sides; the religious-right is attempting to garner votes by masking it via religious pamphlets.

Or maybe it is true concern for the soldiers and their leaders. This isn't a new thing you know, as some have stated - people send all sorts of things to those who are serving their county in WAR. So a group sent over some prayer pamplets - I'm sure those soldiers who believe greatly appreciate this sort of thing and those that do not wish to participate don't have to - they don't even have to read it if they don't want to. I fail to see how this is some political propaganda as you suggest it is. But whatever - keep trying to claim it's some political tool instead of seeing it for what it is - a prayer pamplet for those who are believers.

CkG