so, at my highchool cell phones are not allowed on campus for anyreason, your supposed to leave them in your car(i guess your screwed if you dont drive, and have to stay). so anyway, if your caught before like 4:30, you get it taken away. also when they do drug searches with the dogs, if the dogs detect anything they can search your stuff and take your cell phone, regardless of if you didnt have drugs. when they get your phone, they go through your phone looking at text messages and pictures, is this legal, im not to sure about the rights you have at school.
Is this legal?
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Unless you are 18... you have no rights. At least not in America.
As far as reading text messages if drugs are found... I'm sure that's the least of your concerns... and if them checking your text messages is going to get you in trouble, then it just proves WHY they check them... basically, it can't be illegal search and seizure because it's more along the ideas of probable cause.
If you're on school property, then you have to play by their rules.
Don't like it? Get a parent to help you drop out.
As far as reading text messages if drugs are found... I'm sure that's the least of your concerns... and if them checking your text messages is going to get you in trouble, then it just proves WHY they check them... basically, it can't be illegal search and seizure because it's more along the ideas of probable cause.
If you're on school property, then you have to play by their rules.
Don't like it? Get a parent to help you drop out.
yeah i know that, but even if you dont have it on, say like you dont drive and you play a sport. is it legal for them to search your phone?
Do you know about the "Edit" button? And dear god, spelling and grammar man! I can't see how they will let you out of high school if you actually communicate like that!
If they go through your locker during a drug search and find nothing, I don't see how they can search through your cell phone also. Sure they can confiscate it, but searching through it when you did nothing wrong but have the cell phone is just wrong. Now whether or not its illegal I don't know, as mentioned you pretty much don't have rights on public school campus.
Get one of those tasers that's designed to look like a cell phone, and tell them to press the green button.
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Hmmmm. Let's see, maybe if you follow the "no cell phones at school" rule then you won't have an issue. Just a thought.
Won't anyone think of the children? They hand out condoms in school but won't let the kids have cell phones or pray!
Gunslinger08
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Uh.. the 4th Amendment to the Constitution of the United States of America? The Rights guaranteed by these amendments do not only apply to persons over the age of 18.
Gunslinger08
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I know pagers, phones etc used to be banned from schools, but I thought that after Columbine, school districts started allowing kids to have phones in case something like that were to happen again. Hmmm....
I can see facing disciplinary action if you are caught USING the phone during class, between classes, etc, but I don't see why it shouldn't be allowed to be in your possession on school grounds at all.
Start a petition in your community and try to lobby the school district where you live to make a change.
I can see facing disciplinary action if you are caught USING the phone during class, between classes, etc, but I don't see why it shouldn't be allowed to be in your possession on school grounds at all.
Start a petition in your community and try to lobby the school district where you live to make a change.
These cell phone situations are ridiculous. People think they are going to die if it's not with them at all times during the day.
I know you may think it is illegal, but yes they can confiscate your items. They cannot, however, hold them permanently or destroy them, but they don't have to give them back to you. They can require a parent to pick them up though.
Even if you are 18, you are still bound by the rules as defined for students in the rights and responsibilities of students in your school system. By being enrolled, you are agreeing to abide by the rights and responsibilities. Some schools define dress code, some define cell phone usage, etc. If they say your cell phone is not allowed on campus, and that any cell phone found on campus may be searched at will, then by bringing your phone on campus you have given them permission to search your phone. I have no idea if all of your rights and responsibilities as defined would be lawful though.
You really should be a bit more mature about it. If your business said that you could not bring cell phones in due to some issue, like on airplanes, and you did anyways, then you are breaking a rule and should be held responsible. If you feel, however, that having a cell phone on your high school campus somehow increases the ability to learn and in no way affects the attention of any other student, then you could always assert this to your council. I have a feeling it won't really go anywhere though.
Even if you are 18, you are still bound by the rules as defined for students in the rights and responsibilities of students in your school system. By being enrolled, you are agreeing to abide by the rights and responsibilities. Some schools define dress code, some define cell phone usage, etc. If they say your cell phone is not allowed on campus, and that any cell phone found on campus may be searched at will, then by bringing your phone on campus you have given them permission to search your phone. I have no idea if all of your rights and responsibilities as defined would be lawful though.
You really should be a bit more mature about it. If your business said that you could not bring cell phones in due to some issue, like on airplanes, and you did anyways, then you are breaking a rule and should be held responsible. If you feel, however, that having a cell phone on your high school campus somehow increases the ability to learn and in no way affects the attention of any other student, then you could always assert this to your council. I have a feeling it won't really go anywhere though.
I can't think of any reason a school age kid would need to have a cell phone with them during school. If you don't drive and need the cell phone for some reason for after school I would bet that someone in the school office would be willing to hold the cell phone for you until after school is over.
But the fourth amendment does not grant you this right unrestricted.
Like I said, if it's their school, they can do it. It's no different than confiscating a note that was passed around in class.
edit: And for the record, while standards may have changed in the past 200 some years, the constitution was written because "All men are created equal"... and meant just that... all MEN... not women, not boys.
This is the most retarded freakin' comment. They don't set aside time in schools to hand out condoms. Kids can pick them up when they have time. Prayer is not banned from schools. You can pray all the live long day in school. They are just not setting aside a special little time for it. You also have a tax exempt place (known as a church) open all times of the day where you can congregate and pray all the live long day with your buddies. As far as cell phones, they are banned because they are a serious distraction and get in the way of teaching students. Kids are in school to learn, right?
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