Is this how Clinton wants to be remembered?

[DealMonkey]

Frankly, I don't think Dari has the room beneath him to lower himself any further.

 

[Gaard]

25 points to whoever can guess the author and recipient of the following quote...

"They don't believe me! Quick, what do I say!"

 

[EagleKeeper]

Originally posted by: Moonbeam Makes Red look like a kindergarten teacher by comparisonm no?

I thought he was a K teacher!! :beer:

 

[Dari]

Originally posted by: heartsurgeon

If he has attacked Bush, then I'd like to hear about because it's news to me.

go to google and search "President Clinton criticizes Bush", plenty of examples spew out.

I googled that phrase and I only saw one from Bill Clinton and he was (very lightly) criticizing Bush's foreign policy. Again, I'm not talking about Hillary

This was four years ago. And I didn't read it on the internet. It was in the papers (New York Daily News)

No excuses allowed! I googled the "quote" and nothing came up..if this is factual..it would be most unlikely not to appear SOMEWHERE on the internet, heck the New York Daily News has an online archive you can search..unless you can substantiate the quote, i am disinclined to believe it is real.

You certainly don't have to believe it. But it's very real. However, I may have mislead you since this may be a paraphrase.

The point is that Clinton made two mistakes

HAHAH, I don't know what the exact number is, but i know it's not two!

Clinton runs his business from NYC

That's where the MONEY IS!!!!!

Most Presidents return to their home state. Clinton went to NYC.
what was the point of your post again, i forgot...

Re-read it

Frankly, I don't think Dari has the room beneath him to lower himself any further.

This coming from the same person that praised the deaths of soldiers and contract workers in Iraq, saying they deserved it?

Whoops, calling me an Gaard Parasites is an Ad Hom in itself. Glad you could elevate yourself to our level.

It was not meant in a derogatory manner. But maybe I used the wrong word. A better word for you two would be virus

 

[DealMonkey]

Originally posted by: Dari

Frankly, I don't think Dari has the room beneath him to lower himself any further.

This coming from the same person that praised the deaths of soldiers and contract workers in Iraq, saying they deserved it?

Excuse me crack whore? What have you been smoking? I never did anything of the kind. Get your facts straight.

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: DealMonkey

Originally posted by: Dari

Frankly, I don't think Dari has the room beneath him to lower himself any further.

This coming from the same person that praised the deaths of soldiers and contract workers in Iraq, saying they deserved it?

Excuse me crack whore? What have you been smoking? I never did anything of the kind. Get your facts straight.

Hey Dari never let's the facts interfere with an argument of his!

 

[tnitsuj]

Originally posted by: Dari

Originally posted by: heartsurgeon

If he has attacked Bush, then I'd like to hear about because it's news to me.

go to google and search "President Clinton criticizes Bush", plenty of examples spew out.

I googled that phrase and I only saw one from Bill Clinton and he was (very lightly) criticizing Bush's foreign policy. Again, I'm not talking about Hillary

This was four years ago. And I didn't read it on the internet. It was in the papers (New York Daily News)

No excuses allowed! I googled the "quote" and nothing came up..if this is factual..it would be most unlikely not to appear SOMEWHERE on the internet, heck the New York Daily News has an online archive you can search..unless you can substantiate the quote, i am disinclined to believe it is real.

You certainly don't have to believe it. But it's very real. However, I may have mislead you since this may be a paraphrase.

The point is that Clinton made two mistakes

HAHAH, I don't know what the exact number is, but i know it's not two!

Clinton runs his business from NYC

That's where the MONEY IS!!!!!

Most Presidents return to their home state. Clinton went to NYC.
what was the point of your post again, i forgot...

Re-read it

Frankly, I don't think Dari has the room beneath him to lower himself any further.

This coming from the same person that praised the deaths of soldiers and contract workers in Iraq, saying they deserved it?

Whoops, calling me an Gaard Parasites is an Ad Hom in itself. Glad you could elevate yourself to our level.

It was not meant in a derogatory manner. But maybe I used the wrong word. A better word for you two would be virus

This coming from the same person that praised the deaths of soldiers and contract workers in Iraq, saying they deserved it?

??????

 

[Dari]

Excuse me crack whore? What have you been smoking? I never did anything of the kind. Get your facts straight.

My apologies, apparently it was Barneyfife that made that statement, not you. I got the two names mixed up due to the similarities in opinion.

 

[sMiLeYz]

What is the point of this thread?

EDIT: After reading all this over again, I realize there really wasn't a point except an another baseless attack on Bill Clinton.

 

[MrYogi]

1)WTH are you talking about and what is the point of this thread?
2)Do you think Clinton should say something negative about Bush? Also, why would he be in AR when his wife is NY?
3)How old are you, anyway?

 

[Genesys]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: josphII

Originally posted by: Bowfinger
Waaa waaa waaa. You guys should thank FDR for the 22nd Amendment, or Clinton would still be President.

the fact that the country voted a very conservitive republican in office was a glaring signal that the american people wanted nothing more to do with the clinton administration

But they didn't vote a very conservative President in, they voted in Bush (and he didn't even get the popular vote)

Please Read

 

[Bowfinger]

Originally posted by: Genesys

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: josphII

Originally posted by: Bowfinger
Waaa waaa waaa. You guys should thank FDR for the 22nd Amendment, or Clinton would still be President.

the fact that the country voted a very conservitive republican in office was a glaring signal that the american people wanted nothing more to do with the clinton administration

But they didn't vote a very conservative President in, they voted in Bush (and he didn't even get the popular vote)

Please Read

Please Read

Gore got 543,895 more votes than Bush.

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: Bowfinger

Originally posted by: Genesys

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: josphII

Originally posted by: Bowfinger
Waaa waaa waaa. You guys should thank FDR for the 22nd Amendment, or Clinton would still be President.

the fact that the country voted a very conservitive republican in office was a glaring signal that the american people wanted nothing more to do with the clinton administration

But they didn't vote a very conservative President in, they voted in Bush (and he didn't even get the popular vote)

Please Read

Please Read

Gore got 543,895 more votes than Bush.

Please read.
Oh, and here in Iowa Gore only "won" by about 4100 votes...I have a feeling the Iowa Republicans are going to put together a big push this time around I wonder how Bow would react to Iowa becoming a Red state

CkG

 

[Bowfinger]

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY

Originally posted by: Bowfinger

Originally posted by: josphII

Originally posted by: Bowfinger
Waaa waaa waaa. You guys should thank FDR for the 22nd Amendment, or Clinton would still be President.

the fact that the country voted a very conservitive republican in office was a glaring signal that the american people wanted nothing more to do with the clinton administration

Please Read

Gore got 543,895 more votes than Bush.

Please read.
Oh, and here in Iowa Gore only "won" by about 4100 votes...I have a feeling the Iowa Republicans are going to put together a big push this time around I wonder how Bow would react to Iowa becoming a Red state

Did you read the quotes? JosphII asserted that the American people chose Bush, sending a glaring signal of their dissatisfaction with Clinton. That's simply not true. The majority of Americans did NOT choose Bush; a pluarlity chose Gore. I am not questioning the Electoral vote. That's a separate diversion from the topic at hand.

The point remains, if not for the 22nd Amendment, Clinton would still be President.


(quotes trimmed for clarity)

 

[Bowfinger]

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
[ ... ]I wonder how Bow would react to Iowa becoming a Red state

Largely with disinterest. I have always been an independent. When the Republicans field better candidates, I vote for them. As I've said before, my first choice in 2000 was McCain.

That's why your "partisan" ad homs are so amusing. I reject Bush because of what he does and what he represents (IMO), not because of his party affiliation. Some people, like Bush himself, are too blindly partisan to accept that. They simply cannot conceive that anyone rejects their boy on his merits.

 

[SuperTool]

Clinton won.
(Election '92,'96, Coup '98)
Get over it.

 

[sandorski]

In the grand scheme of things, IMO, G Bush will be the best thing to ever happen to Clinton. History will look back at this period, see Clintons economy, then look at Bush's economy, then conclude Clinton was a good President.

 

[SuperTool]

History will look on Bush as one of many presidents to push the US towards bankrupcy. It will look on Clinton as one of very few to try to get it on a fiscally sustainable course.

 

[heartsurgeon]

history(bill clinton)=Blue Gap Dress

 

[Bowfinger]

Originally posted by: heartsurgeon
history(bill clinton)=Blue Gap Dress

Speaking of which ...

From the L.A. Times: Baghdad Is Bush's Blue Dress

Now, can we talk of impeachment? The rueful admission by former chief U.S. weapons inspector David Kay that Saddam Hussein did not possess weapons of mass destruction or the means to create them at the time of the U.S. invasion confirms the fact that the Bush administration is complicit in arguably the greatest scandal in U.S. history. It's only because the Republicans control both houses of Congress that we hear no calls for a broad-ranging investigation of the type that led to the discovery of Monica Lewinsky's infamous blue dress.

In no previous instance of presidential malfeasance was so much at stake, both in preserving constitutional safeguards and national security. This egregious deception in leading us to war on phony intelligence overshadows those scandals based on greed, such as Teapot Dome during the Harding administration, or those aimed at political opponents, such as Watergate. And the White House continues to dig itself deeper into a hole by denying reality even as its lieutenants one by one find the courage to speak the truth.

A year after using his 2003 State of the Union address to paint Iraq's allegedly vast arsenal of weapons of mass destruction as a grave threat to the U.S. and the world, Bush spent this month's State of the Union defending the war because "had we failed to act, the dictator's weapons of mass destruction programs would continue to this day." Bush said officials were still "seeking all the facts" about Iraq's weapons programs but noted that weapons searchers had already identified "dozens of weapons of mass destruction-related program activities."

Vice President Dick Cheney in interviews with USA Today and the Los Angeles Times echoed this fudging ? last year's "weapons" are now called "programs" ? declaring that "the jury's still out" on whether Iraq had WMDs and, "I am a long way at this stage from concluding that somehow there was some fundamental flaw in our intelligence."

Yet three days after the State of the Union address, Kay quit and then began telling the world what the administration had denied since taking over the White House: That Hussein's regime was but a weak shadow of the military force it had been at the time of the 1991 Persian Gulf War, that he believed it had no significant chemical, biological or nuclear weapons programs or stockpiles in place, and that the United Nations inspections and allied bombing in the '90s had been more effective at eroding the remnants of these programs than critics had thought.

"I'm personally convinced that there were not large stockpiles of newly produced weapons of mass destruction," Kay told the New York Times. "We don't find the people, the documents or the physical plants that you would expect to find if the production was going on. I think they gradually reduced stockpiles throughout the 1990s. Somewhere in the mid-1990s the large chemical overhang of existing stockpiles was eliminated?. The Iraqis say they believed that [the U.N. inspection program] was more effective [than U.S. analysts believed], and they didn't want to get caught."

The maddening aspect of all this is that we haven't needed Kay to set the record straight. The administration's systematic abuse of the facts, including the fraudulent link of Hussein to 9/11, has been obvious for two years. That's why 23 former U.S. intelligence experts ? including several who quit in disgust ? have been willing to speak out in Robert Greenwald's shocking documentary "Uncovered." The story they tell is one of an administration that went to war for reasons that smack of empire-building, then constructed a false reality to sell it to the American people. Is that not an impeachable offense?

After all, the president misled Congress into approving his preemptive war on the grounds that our very survival as a nation was threatened by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction. We were told that if we hesitated, allowing the U.N. inspectors who were in Iraq to keep working, a mushroom cloud over New York, to use Condoleezza Rice's imagery, might well be our dark reward.

Now that Kay ? who, it should be remembered, once defended the war and dismissed the work of the U.N. inspectors ? has had $900 million and at least 1,200 weapons inspectors to discover what many in the CIA and elsewhere had been telling us all along, are there to be no real repercussions for such devastating official deceit?

 

[Jeff7]

Originally posted by: Bowfinger
Waaa waaa waaa. You guys should thank FDR for the 22nd Amendment, or Clinton would still be President.

I sure would have voted him in for a 3rd term.