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Is this EVEN POSSIBLE? Thanks in ahead of time

J

jodokast5300

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Okay here's the deal. I"m sure you guys all know Music Match by now and rip cds to your computer all the time right? I know I do it like everyday whenever I borrow my friend's cd. Anyhow here's basically what went down:

1. I borrow a few of my dad's cds (soundtrack of Cinema Paradiso, fireworks - classic music)
2. I rip them all to my computer - they sound great. I return cds back to my dad.
3. My dad tries to play the cds I used on his DVD player. They don't work anymore!! ;-(
4. I try Cinema Paradiso on my soundtrack - an cd that's actually quite old, recorded awhile back anyhow. Doesn't work anymore......
5. I tried it on my DVD player, a newer DVD player than my dad's and the cd plays fine.

.......all the CDS are dust-free, scratch-free yet won't play in my computer or my dad's older DVD player which plays like everything. :-(
What could be happening? This something new from musicmatch? Or something implemented by an older cd technology?

Is something like this even possible?. THanks for anything you can give me!!
 
Whatever's happening, it's not MusicMatch's fault because once a CD has been written to, it can't be written to again, so it couldn't be made to not work elsewhere without some sort of physical damage. Did they play on your Dad's DVD player before and they don't now?
 
Yah that's what i assumed. Hm...could it be hardware problem? This has affected more than one cd - making them all unplayable. :-(

Both effects can be seen in the CDs I put in my Kenwood 72X and in my plextor 16/10/40A
 
Certain drives don't like certain CD media (Notice, I didn't limit it to CD-R/Ws). Trust me, you'll run into it PLENTY!
I have some PNY CDs (The same "gray market" brand that makes "Office Depot" and others) & not a single drive I own (Around 8 assorted DVD, CD-ROM & CD-R/W drives) will read them, not even the burner that burned it, yet my friend's drive can read the CD fine.
Another example is the REAL "factory pressed" Microsoft Windows 95 USB version CD couldn't be read in an old '95 era IBM Aptiva I was working on, though the drive worked fine with all other CDs.
The Sony Playstation is meant to have trouble reading non-official discs, & there were many "disc quality" reviews based on the PSX's ability to play copied games from them.
I could go on, but you get the picture... I'm sure that DVD players like your dad's are simply picky like the first generation MP3-CD players that practically wouldn't ready ANYTHING... This is why your old CD doesn't work in it either (Either that, or it's just one of those weird DVD players that aren't meant to play any CDs).
 
Maybe I didn't make myself clear. Here's what happened.

CDS play fine in Dad's DVD player.
I rip cd songtracks to my computer and return back original cds.
CDS no longer play in dad's DVD player.

They also no longer play in my computer although they did before. This is also not an one cd incident. It has affected all the cds I borrowed my from dad. Mostly from the 90s classical stuff.....
Also the newer cds I rip to my computer (Staind for example) play fine after I rip them to my comp.

Also the DVD player is like one of those $3000+ players that actually play everything, CDRs, CDRWs, VCDS, LD, SACD, etc.etc. etc.
 
Were they left in the sun? Car seat maybe? Or perhaps the laser is just dirty... The thing that threw me off was that I would have said "original CDs no longer play" if dupes were made 🙂
 
It's a shame the staind cd still works, the world doesnt need another one of them. Seriously though, I have no idea what ripping a cd could do to the cd itself. Are the cds your borrowed from your dad cdrs?
 
you may have damaged them in some other way, or your dads dvd player may be at fault, but there is no way that ripping damaged the discs, all it is is reading data, not writing.

definitely fishy but once again, ripping could not in itself render a disc unreadable.
 
yah that's what I assumed. Nah cds are perfect original and weren't left in the sun.

The ironic part is that they play in my DVD player upstairs - a newer model, but will no longer play in any computer or my dad's DVD player.....so any ideas?
It was so fishy that I decided to post this up.
 
Your CDROM spun them too hard when it was ripping, and all the bits got pushed to the outside tracks, so it won't play anymore. Newer CDs are built to withstand this kind of spinning, but you have to remember that those early 90's classical CDs were created during the days of 1x CD players. 😉

In all seriousness, MusicMatch is not responsible for these problems you're having, you claim the CDs are scratch free, but they must have some sort of physical damage; it's the only logical explanation.
 


<< Your CDROM spun them too hard when it was ripping, and all the bits got pushed to the outside tracks, so it won't play anymore. Newer CDs are built to withstand this kind of spinning, but you have to remember that those early 90's classical CDs were created during the days of 1x CD players. 😉 >>



lol 😀
 
Better/newer error correction? My CD-RW reads many scratched disc other that drives I own can't. Also, sometimes I have to find a friend with a Plextor to get a real pressed disc to work (New Memories VCD with some sort of problem) 😛
 
Did you use your burner to rip the CD's? Maybe by a fluke MM 'accidentaly' or the burner 'accidently' burned something on to the CD's?
 


<< Did you use your burner to rip the CD's? Maybe by a fluke MM 'accidentaly' or the burner 'accidently' burned something on to the CD's? >>



Sorry, not physically possible. Try again.
 


<<

<< Did you use your burner to rip the CD's? Maybe by a fluke MM 'accidentaly' or the burner 'accidently' burned something on to the CD's? >>



Sorry, not physically possible. Try again. >>


Never know stranger things have happened, computer starting up by itself after a shutdown 😉
 


<< Never know stranger things have happened, computer starting up by itself after a shutdown 😉 >>



That's at least physically possible. 🙂
 
Maybe the reading laser on the ripping CD-ROM/R? did something to the bits that the older CD's can't withstand vs. the newer ones that can? Just guessing........
 


<< Maybe the reading laser on the ripping CD-ROM/R? did something to the bits that the older CD's can't withstand vs. the newer ones that can? Just guessing........ >>



No! lol stop guessing!
Commercial CDs are "pressed" at the factory, they do not have dye that changes because of heat, it's actually a thin sheet of metal with pits pressed into it. A laser on a CD burner or CDROM absolutely can't modify those bits. No way.
CD-Rs are different because instead of a pressed metal with pits, it has dye which can be "burned". Even with a CD-R you'd have a very hard time getting a burner to overwrite or change any of the bits accidentally.
I suppose if his CDROM was a blazing inferno from hell, it could change the physical properties of the CDROM and mess it up, but it works in another CD player, and it wasn't a puddle liquid goo when he pulled it out of his CDROM anyway...so I doubt that's what did it.
 
did you put the cds to your dad's DVD yourself?
When you say it doesn't work, do you mean, it doesn't read anything at all?
It may sound stupid.. but what the hack, here are my guesses

1. You put the cd upside down? 😉
2. You put the cd on top of another cd? (I did this once.. 🙁 )
3. Does any other CDs play in your dad's DVD?
4. Is your volume by any chance set to mute?
5. Do you have any other cd players that you can try on?
 
Any setup changes? It may output CD audio through the left & right stereo RCA outputs only and not the coaxial output... I have seen funky devices like this and remember that many PC games today still use analog CD audio through a direct cable to the soundcard, while your DVDs in the same system don't. If it uses a PC or laptop drive in the DVD, it may have the same technology limitations....
 
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